The problem with Trump’s lies about Democrats being ‘to blame’ for alleged assassination attempt

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

tRump is indeed an existential threat, so why should we stop talking about it?

Because he got a couple of his former followers so riled up they wanted to off him?

'Cause that's a whole bucketload of Not My Problem.

Nope. Routh is definitely a leftist pole smoker.

 

[Crepitus]

Nope. Routh is definitely a leftist pole smoker.

Nope. Sorry for your luck.

 

[toobfreak]

It's looking like it all leads back to DHS and FBI. Either way, there needs to be some serious investigating done.

Serious investigation? My bet is that we never find out any clear explanation of why Crooks shot Trump nor why the AGR rooftop was overlooked, why no one was ever fired for it, nor why now this Routh guy, an obvious target of the FBI zipping in and out of the Middle East, DC, and Florida while living in Hawaii all on an unemployed roofers income, was completely under the radar until he tried to shoot Trump, nor why no one even detected him the 12 hours he camped out there. This stuff will just forever be "pending further investigation."

Under Harris and Biden, America is now just one big clusterf*ck.

 

[EMH]

How the fuck do you lay Ukraine at the feet of Dems?

You were already crazy. Seems you're getting worse. Try upping your meds.

https://www.thestreet.com/technology/elon-musk-names-person-pushing-the-russia-ukraine-war-and-its-not-putin

Musk accuses the U.S. undersecretary of state for political affairs, Victoria Nuland, of warmongering in this conflict.



Interesting person, this Victoria Nuland...

Victoria Nuland - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

From 2003 to 2005, Nuland served as the principal Deputy National Security Adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney,[18] exercising an influential role during the Iraq War.[citation needed] From 2005 to 2008, during President George W. Bush's second term, Nuland served as U.S. ambassador to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) in Brussels, where she concentrated on mobilizing European support for the NATO intervention in Afghanistan.

Obama administration​

[edit]
In the summer of 2011, Nuland became special envoy for Conventional Armed Forces in Europe[20] and then became State Department spokesperson.[21]

In May 2013, Nuland was nominated to act as assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs[22] and was sworn in on September 18, 2013.[23] In her role as assistant secretary, she managed diplomatic relations with fifty countries in Europe and Eurasia, as well as with NATO, the European Union and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe.[citation needed]

Ukraine​

[edit]
During the Maidan Uprising in Ukraine, Nuland made appearances supporting the Maidan protesters.[24] In December 2013, she said in a speech to the US–Ukraine Foundation that the U.S. had invested over $5 billion on democratic skills and institutions, civic participation, and good governance in Ukraine since 1991. She stated that these were preconditions for Ukraine to achieve its European aspirations.[25][24] The Russian government seized on this statement, claiming it was evidence the U.S. was orchestrating a color revolution.[24]

On February 4, 2014, a recording of a phone call between Nuland and U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt on January 28, 2014, was published on YouTube.[26][27][28][29][30][31] The call followed an offer made on January 25, 2014, by Ukrainian president Yanukovych to include two members of the opposition in his government to calm the Maidan protests in Ukraine, one being that of his Prime Minister.[32] Nuland and Pyatt voiced their opinions of this offer, specifically on the post of Prime Minister, giving their opinion of several opposition personalities. Nuland told Pyatt that Arseniy Yatsenyuk would be the best candidate to hold this post.[27][28] Nuland suggested the United Nations, rather than the European Union, should be involved in a full political solution, adding "fuck the EU". The following day, Christiane Wirtz, Deputy Government Spokesperson and Deputy Head of the Press and Information Office of the German Federal Government, stated that German Chancellor Angela Merkel termed Nuland's remark "absolutely unacceptable."[33] The president of the European Council, Herman Van Rompuy, condemned the remark as "unacceptable".[34][35] Department of State spokesperson Jen Psaki said the discussion was not evidence of any American plan to influence the political outcome, remarking that "It shouldn't be a surprise that at any point there have been discussions about recent events and offers and what is happening on the ground".[36]

Nuland was the lead U.S. point person for Ukraine's Revolution of Dignity, establishing loan guarantees to Ukraine, including a $1 billion loan guarantee in 2014, and the provisions of non-lethal assistance to the Ukrainian military and border guard.[37][38] Along with Secretary of State John Kerry and Secretary of Defense Ash Carter, she is seen as a leading supporter of defensive weapons delivery to Ukraine. In 2016, Nuland urged Ukraine to start prosecuting corrupt officials: "It's time to start locking up people who have ripped off the Ukrainian population for too long and it is time to eradicate the cancer of corruption".[39] While serving as the Department of State's lead diplomat on the Ukraine crisis, Nuland pushed European allies to take a harder line on Russian expansionism.[40]

During a June 7, 2016, Senate Foreign Relations Committee Hearing titled "Russian Violations of Borders, Treaties, and Human Rights", Nuland described U.S. diplomatic outreach to the former Soviet Union and efforts to build a constructive relationship with Russia. During her testimony, Nuland noted de facto 2014 Russian intervention of Ukraine which she said, "shattered any remaining illusions about this Kremlin's willingness to abide by international law or live by the rules of the institutions that Russia joined at the end of the Cold War."[41]

 

[krichton]

Well, after two assassination attempts, reasonable people understand that it's time to stop constant chant that "Trump is an existential threat"

And yet it's Trump who is the one who is constantly calling Harris a marxist and fascist and claiming that she'll destroy america over and over again.

 

[Rawley]

And yet it's Trump who is the one who is constantly calling Harris a marxist and fascist and claiming that she'll destroy america over and over again.

And no one has tried to shoot her in the head, have they? The problem is demonstrably with your cult's violent rhetoric.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Well, after two assassination attempts, reasonable people understand that it's time to stop constant chant that "Trump is an existential threat"

Clayton cannot chant anything.

It is simply a DNC bot programmed to respond to certain stimuli.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

And yet it's Trump who is the one who is constantly calling Harris a marxist and fascist and claiming that she'll destroy america over and over again.

How silly.

She is only going to destroy America once, not over and over again!

 

[krichton]

How silly.

She is only going to destroy America once, not over and over again!

No, my claim is that Trump is saying it over and over, not that she's going to destroy it multiple times over

 

[Dogmaphobe]

No, my claim is that Trump is saying it over and over, not that she's going to destroy it multiple times over

I based my reaction on what you ACTUALLY said.

The English language can't be your friend if you don't learn it.

 

[krichton]

And no one has tried to shoot her in the head, have they? The problem is demonstrably with your cult's violent rhetoric.

It's because unwell people are drawn to others who demonstrate the same illnesses they do. Delusions of grandeur, paranoia, persecution complex, pathological lying, etc. These are symptoms of mental illness. To a lunatic it doesn't matter how many times Trump projects his rhetoric onto others, all they know is that all the chaos of the last several years has been emanating from one source, Trump himself. He's the one at the center of every controversy or scandal and is featured in around the clock news cycles and Trump tweets. Some crazy person is going to take exception to all of this. They're not listening to anything being said by democrats. Trump is doing it all himself.

 

[Harry Dresden]

It's because unwell people are drawn to others who demonstrate the same illnesses they do. Delusions of grandeur, paranoia, persecution complex, pathological lying, etc. These are symptoms of mental illness. To a lunatic it doesn't matter how many times Trump projects his rhetoric onto others, all they know is that all the chaos of the last several years has been emanating from one source, Trump himself. He's the one at the center of every controversy or scandal and is featured in around the clock news cycles and Trump tweets. Some crazy person is going to take exception to all of this. They're not listening to anything being said by democrats. Trump is doing it all himself.

sure there are no crazy die hard lefties out there....

 

[Rawley]

It's because unwell people are drawn to others who demonstrate the same illnesses they do. Delusions of grandeur, paranoia, persecution complex, pathological lying, etc. These are symptoms of mental illness. To a lunatic it doesn't matter how many times Trump projects his rhetoric onto others, all they know is that all the chaos of the last several years has been emanating from one source, Trump himself. He's the one at the center of every controversy or scandal and is featured in around the clock news cycles and Trump tweets. Some crazy person is going to take exception to all of this. They're not listening to anything being said by democrats. Trump is doing it all himself.

• Kamala Harris — repeatedly: "Trump is a threat to our democracy and fundamental freedoms."
• Kamala Harris: "It's on us to recognize the threat [Trump] poses."
• Kamala Harris: "Does one of us have to come out alive? Ha ha ha ha!"
• Joe Biden: "It's time to put Trump in a bullseye."
• Joe Biden: "I mean this from the bottom of my heart: Trump is a threat to this nation."
• Joe Biden: "There is one existential threat: it's Donald Trump."
• Joe Biden: "Trump is a genuine threat to this nation ... He's literally a threat to everything America stands for."
• Joe Biden: "Trump and MAGA Republicans are a threat to the very soul of this country."
• Joe Biden: "Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic ... and that is a threat to this country."
• Tim Walz: "Are [Republicans] a threat to democracy? Yes. ... Are they going to put peoples' lives in danger? Yes."
• Gwen Walz: "Buh-bye, Donald Trump."
• Rep. Nancy Pelosi: "[Trump] is a threat to our democracy of the kind that we have not seen."
• Rep. Jasmine Crockett: "MAGA in general — they are threats to us domestically."
• Rep. Dan Goldman: "He is destructive to our democracy and ... he has to be eliminated."
• Disgraced Harris staffer TJ Ducklo: "Trump is an existential, urgent threat to our democracy."
• Top Harris surrogate Liz Cheney: "Trump presents a fundamental threat to the republic and we are seeing it on a daily basis."
• Rep. Steve Cohen: "Trump is an enemy of the United States."
• Rep. Maxine Waters: "Are [Trump supporters] preparing a civil war against us?"
• Rep. Maxine Waters: "I want to know about all of those right-wing organizations that [Trump] is connected with who are training up in the hills somewhere."
• Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz: Trump is an "existential threat to our democracy."
• Rep. Adam Schiff: Trump is the "gravest threat to our democracy."
• Rep. Gregory Meeks: "Trump cannot be president again. He's an existential threat to democracy."
• Rep. Dan Goldman: "Trump remains the greatest threat to our democracy."
• Rep. Jake Auchincloss: "What unifies us as a party is knowing that Donald Trump is an existential threat to Democracy."
• Rep. Abigail Spanberger: "Trump is a threat to our democracy … the threats to our democratic republic are real."
• Rep. Annie Kuster: "Trump and his extreme right-wing followers pose an existential threat to our democracy."
• Rep. Becca Balint: "We cannot underestimate the threat [Trump] poses to American democracy."
• Rep. Jason Crow: "Trump is an extreme danger to our democracy."
• Rep. Raul Grijalva: "Trump is an existential threat to American democracy."
• Sen. Michael Bennet: Trump is "a threat to our democracy."
• Rep. Stacey Plaskett: Trump "needs to be shot."
• Rep. Steven Horsford: "Trump Republicans are a dangerous threat to our state."
• Rep. Gabe Vasquez: "Remove the national threat from office."
• Rep. Mike Levin: "Donald Trump is a threat to our nation, our freedom, and our democracy."
• Rep. Eric Sorensen: "He is the greatest threat to law and order we have in our country."
• Rep. Greg Landsman: "The threat is not over."
• Rep. Pat Ryan: "Trump is an existential threat to American democracy."
• Rick Wilson, The Lincoln Project: "They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump."
• Former Harris-Biden staffer Kate Bedingfield: Democrats should "turn their fire on Donald Trump."

• Rep. Hakeem Jeffries: "We must stop [Trump]."
• Rachel Vindman, wife of disgraced impeachment hoax 'witness': "No ears were harmed. Carry on with your Sunday afternoon."
• Rep. Mikie Sherrill: "This really seems to be the confluence of two very bad things going on in the Republican Party ... the attempts to divide, to enrage the population."
• State Rep. Steven Woodrow (D-CO): "The last thing America needed was sympathy for the devil but here we are."
• Lester Holt, NBC Nightly News: "Today's apparent assassination attempt comes amid increasingly fierce rhetoric on the campaign trail. Mr. Trump, his running mate JD Vance, continue to make baseless claims..."
• Alex Witt, MSNBC: "Do you expect there to be calls from within the Trump campaign to [tone it down]?"
• Phil Bump, The Washington Post: "Another chance for Trump to frame Democrats as dangerous has emerged."
• Bill Kristol, The Bulwark: "Vance ... incite potential violence with lies."
  [*]Ron Filipkowski, liberal commentator: "Was the golf course guy with the gun a migrant?"
  [*]David Frum, The Atlantic: "Trump and his running mate have spent the past week successfully inciting violence ... today they want to present themselves as near-victims of violence."
  [*]Jonathan Chait, New York Magazine: "Trump is a threat to democracy, and saying so is not incitement."
  [*]The Cincinnati Enquirer: "The former president, Donald Trump, brings a lot of this stuff on himself."
  [*]USA TODAY: "Hope in America."
  [*]NBC News: "Golf course incident."
  [*]Bloomberg: Trump "seizing on assassination attempt."
  

 

[lantern2814]

tRump is indeed an existential threat, so why should we stop talking about it?

Because he got a couple of his former followers so riled up they wanted to off him?

'Cause that's a whole bucketload of Not My Problem.

Hey retard, they were both Dems. A whole shitload of YOUR problem. Remember that when Trump rolls to victory in November.

 

[Crepitus]

Hey retard, they were both Dems. A whole shitload of YOUR problem. Remember that when Trump rolls to victory in November.

Nope. Both republicans.

Stop trying to blame Democrats for republican-on-republican violence.

 

[lantern2814]

Nope. Both republicans.

Stop trying to blame Democrats for republican-on-republican violence.

Nope asshole. Both DEMS. No matter how much lying and projecting you want to do Stupidus. YOUR side is responsible for this. All of it.

 

[dudmuck]

• Kamala Harris — repeatedly: "Trump is a threat to our democracy and fundamental freedoms."
• Kamala Harris: "It's on us to recognize the threat [Trump] poses."
• Kamala Harris: "Does one of us have to come out alive? Ha ha ha ha!"
• Joe Biden: "It's time to put Trump in a bullseye."
• Joe Biden: "I mean this from the bottom of my heart: Trump is a threat to this nation."
• Joe Biden: "There is one existential threat: it's Donald Trump."
• Joe Biden: "Trump is a genuine threat to this nation ... He's literally a threat to everything America stands for."
• Joe Biden: "Trump and MAGA Republicans are a threat to the very soul of this country."
• Joe Biden: "Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic ... and that is a threat to this country."
• Tim Walz: "Are [Republicans] a threat to democracy? Yes. ... Are they going to put peoples' lives in danger? Yes."
• Gwen Walz: "Buh-bye, Donald Trump."
• Rep. Nancy Pelosi: "[Trump] is a threat to our democracy of the kind that we have not seen."
• Rep. Jasmine Crockett: "MAGA in general — they are threats to us domestically."
• Rep. Dan Goldman: "He is destructive to our democracy and ... he has to be eliminated."
• Disgraced Harris staffer TJ Ducklo: "Trump is an existential, urgent threat to our democracy."
• Top Harris surrogate Liz Cheney: "Trump presents a fundamental threat to the republic and we are seeing it on a daily basis."
• Rep. Steve Cohen: "Trump is an enemy of the United States."
• Rep. Maxine Waters: "Are [Trump supporters] preparing a civil war against us?"
• Rep. Maxine Waters: "I want to know about all of those right-wing organizations that [Trump] is connected with who are training up in the hills somewhere."
• Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz: Trump is an "existential threat to our democracy."
• Rep. Adam Schiff: Trump is the "gravest threat to our democracy."
• Rep. Gregory Meeks: "Trump cannot be president again. He's an existential threat to democracy."
• Rep. Dan Goldman: "Trump remains the greatest threat to our democracy."
• Rep. Jake Auchincloss: "What unifies us as a party is knowing that Donald Trump is an existential threat to Democracy."
• Rep. Abigail Spanberger: "Trump is a threat to our democracy … the threats to our democratic republic are real."
• Rep. Annie Kuster: "Trump and his extreme right-wing followers pose an existential threat to our democracy."
• Rep. Becca Balint: "We cannot underestimate the threat [Trump] poses to American democracy."
• Rep. Jason Crow: "Trump is an extreme danger to our democracy."
• Rep. Raul Grijalva: "Trump is an existential threat to American democracy."
• Sen. Michael Bennet: Trump is "a threat to our democracy."
• Rep. Stacey Plaskett: Trump "needs to be shot."
• Rep. Steven Horsford: "Trump Republicans are a dangerous threat to our state."
• Rep. Gabe Vasquez: "Remove the national threat from office."
• Rep. Mike Levin: "Donald Trump is a threat to our nation, our freedom, and our democracy."
• Rep. Eric Sorensen: "He is the greatest threat to law and order we have in our country."
• Rep. Greg Landsman: "The threat is not over."
• Rep. Pat Ryan: "Trump is an existential threat to American democracy."
• Rick Wilson, The Lincoln Project: "They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in Donald Trump."
• Former Harris-Biden staffer Kate Bedingfield: Democrats should "turn their fire on Donald Trump."

• Rep. Hakeem Jeffries: "We must stop [Trump]."
• Rachel Vindman, wife of disgraced impeachment hoax 'witness': "No ears were harmed. Carry on with your Sunday afternoon."
• Rep. Mikie Sherrill: "This really seems to be the confluence of two very bad things going on in the Republican Party ... the attempts to divide, to enrage the population."
• State Rep. Steven Woodrow (D-CO): "The last thing America needed was sympathy for the devil but here we are."
• Lester Holt, NBC Nightly News: "Today's apparent assassination attempt comes amid increasingly fierce rhetoric on the campaign trail. Mr. Trump, his running mate JD Vance, continue to make baseless claims..."
• Alex Witt, MSNBC: "Do you expect there to be calls from within the Trump campaign to [tone it down]?"
• Phil Bump, The Washington Post: "Another chance for Trump to frame Democrats as dangerous has emerged."
• Bill Kristol, The Bulwark: "Vance ... incite potential violence with lies."
  [*]Ron Filipkowski, liberal commentator: "Was the golf course guy with the gun a migrant?"
  [*]David Frum, The Atlantic: "Trump and his running mate have spent the past week successfully inciting violence ... today they want to present themselves as near-victims of violence."
  [*]Jonathan Chait, New York Magazine: "Trump is a threat to democracy, and saying so is not incitement."
  [*]The Cincinnati Enquirer: "The former president, Donald Trump, brings a lot of this stuff on himself."
  [*]USA TODAY: "Hope in America."
  [*]NBC News: "Golf course incident."
  [*]Bloomberg: Trump "seizing on assassination attempt."

 

[Faun]

Yes, that's what I've been saying, they were radicalized by left and became involved with ActBlue....hence why they are carrying out the orders of Xiden to put Trump in the "bullseye" and help the dems win

It wasn't Actblue which exposed his corruption... it was the Department of Justice.

 

[struth]

It wasn't Actblue which exposed his corruption... it was the Department of Justice.

Hahaha correction, it was harris and xiden’s DOJ that went after him…we all knew he was “corrupt” when he challenged the demafacist for power. Anyone that challeges the party is “corrupt” and when the radicals can’t imprison them, yoj all send your brownshirts to kill them

 

[Dragonlady]

https://www.thestreet.com/technology/elon-musk-names-person-pushing-the-russia-ukraine-war-and-its-not-putin

Musk accuses the U.S. undersecretary of state for political affairs, Victoria Nuland, of warmongering in this conflict.



Interesting person, this Victoria Nuland...

Victoria Nuland - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

From 2003 to 2005, Nuland served as the principal Deputy National Security Adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney,[18] exercising an influential role during the Iraq War.[citation needed] From 2005 to 2008, during President George W. Bush's second term, Nuland served as U.S. ambassador to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) in Brussels, where she concentrated on mobilizing European support for the NATO intervention in Afghanistan.

Obama administration​

[edit]
In the summer of 2011, Nuland became special envoy for Conventional Armed Forces in Europe[20] and then became State Department spokesperson.[21]

In May 2013, Nuland was nominated to act as assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs[22] and was sworn in on September 18, 2013.[23] In her role as assistant secretary, she managed diplomatic relations with fifty countries in Europe and Eurasia, as well as with NATO, the European Union and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe.[citation needed]

Ukraine​

[edit]
During the Maidan Uprising in Ukraine, Nuland made appearances supporting the Maidan protesters.[24] In December 2013, she said in a speech to the US–Ukraine Foundation that the U.S. had invested over $5 billion on democratic skills and institutions, civic participation, and good governance in Ukraine since 1991. She stated that these were preconditions for Ukraine to achieve its European aspirations.[25][24] The Russian government seized on this statement, claiming it was evidence the U.S. was orchestrating a color revolution.[24]

On February 4, 2014, a recording of a phone call between Nuland and U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt on January 28, 2014, was published on YouTube.[26][27][28][29][30][31] The call followed an offer made on January 25, 2014, by Ukrainian president Yanukovych to include two members of the opposition in his government to calm the Maidan protests in Ukraine, one being that of his Prime Minister.[32] Nuland and Pyatt voiced their opinions of this offer, specifically on the post of Prime Minister, giving their opinion of several opposition personalities. Nuland told Pyatt that Arseniy Yatsenyuk would be the best candidate to hold this post.[27][28] Nuland suggested the United Nations, rather than the European Union, should be involved in a full political solution, adding "fuck the EU". The following day, Christiane Wirtz, Deputy Government Spokesperson and Deputy Head of the Press and Information Office of the German Federal Government, stated that German Chancellor Angela Merkel termed Nuland's remark "absolutely unacceptable."[33] The president of the European Council, Herman Van Rompuy, condemned the remark as "unacceptable".[34][35] Department of State spokesperson Jen Psaki said the discussion was not evidence of any American plan to influence the political outcome, remarking that "It shouldn't be a surprise that at any point there have been discussions about recent events and offers and what is happening on the ground".[36]

Nuland was the lead U.S. point person for Ukraine's Revolution of Dignity, establishing loan guarantees to Ukraine, including a $1 billion loan guarantee in 2014, and the provisions of non-lethal assistance to the Ukrainian military and border guard.[37][38] Along with Secretary of State John Kerry and Secretary of Defense Ash Carter, she is seen as a leading supporter of defensive weapons delivery to Ukraine. In 2016, Nuland urged Ukraine to start prosecuting corrupt officials: "It's time to start locking up people who have ripped off the Ukrainian population for too long and it is time to eradicate the cancer of corruption".[39] While serving as the Department of State's lead diplomat on the Ukraine crisis, Nuland pushed European allies to take a harder line on Russian expansionism.[40]

During a June 7, 2016, Senate Foreign Relations Committee Hearing titled "Russian Violations of Borders, Treaties, and Human Rights", Nuland described U.S. diplomatic outreach to the former Soviet Union and efforts to build a constructive relationship with Russia. During her testimony, Nuland noted de facto 2014 Russian intervention of Ukraine which she said, "shattered any remaining illusions about this Kremlin's willingness to abide by international law or live by the rules of the institutions that Russia joined at the end of the Cold War."[41]

Elon Musk is pro-Putin, anti-Ukraine, and trying to push authoritarian rule. White Aparteid South African, running toxic workplaces because he's, racist, misogynist, and autistic. Not someone one should be taking life advice from. 10 children by 5 different Canadian women, married to none of them.

Weird doesn't begin to describe him.