America isn’t ready for another war — because it doesn’t have the troops

[otto105]

Right, most women don't. Especially women who weigh less than the military equipment.

What's your excuse though?

Bone spurs.

Any questions?

 

[Ringo]

New Zealand welcomes new leadership at the Ministry of Defense.
And why isn't there a war dance and peace pipe smoking at the Pentagon in the United States?

 

[surada]

He dropped more bombs than W. Turned Libya and Syria into failed states causing massive death and destruction. Continued wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Bombed Yemen and Pakistan. Increased war funding every war.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I see you are in a rut and will never escape it.

she is one hate filled bitch.

She used to claim to be a Christian.

 

[Mushroom]

This was in 2011. What in the hell does it have to do with 2024?

 

[whitehall]

There will be little need for Troops if the two biggest nuclear powers in the world get into a shooting war. "They'll be no one to save, we're a world in a grave". ....Barry McGuire

 

[Ringo]

 

[JWBooth]

Navy just initiated involuntary servitude (stop loss) over lack of aviators. Navy Times

Navy will force aviators to remain in service to complete sea tours

The Navy plans to require its pilots to complete their second at-sea tour before they can get out.

www.navytimes.com

 

[Mac-7]

America isn’t ready for another war ​

—​

Because it doesn’t have the troops​

Vox.com

MSN

www.msn.com

1 Sep 2024 ~~ By

Coverage of the wars in Ukraine and Gaza is mostly dominated by talk of weapons. Reporters and analysts focus on suicide drones, on shell deficits, on targeting algorithms. But for all the attention devoted to modern weapons and munitions, both conflicts are proving that modern war still comes down to people.
In Ukraine, battlefield deaths on both sides were estimated to number more than 200,000 by the fall of 2023. Though US weapons and munitions have been critical to Kyiv’s war effort, it was territorial militias and hastily trained citizen-soldiers who helped save Ukraine from total conquest in 2022.
At the same time, it was a partial mobilization of more than 300,000 troops that stabilized Russia’s lines and prevented a potential collapse in late 2022. Today, the war has settled into an attritional slugfest, with both sides desperate to keep the flow of new recruits going, to the point where ranks have opened to older men, women, and convicts.
The situation is much the same in the Middle East. On October 7, Israel’s heavily automated Gaza perimeter was breached by well-trained but low-tech Hamas terrorists. The attack was eventually repulsed by conscript soldiers and armed volunteers — even in the “start-up nation” that prides itself on its technological prowess, security depends first and foremost on people. Similar to the Russian mobilization before the invasion of Ukraine, the immediate calling up of 360,000 reservists enabled Israel to conduct its campaign against Hamas and deter other non-state foes in the West Bank and Lebanon.
~Snip~
America did away with the draft 51 years ago, waging its many wars and interventions since with the All-Volunteer Force (AVF). But “all-volunteer” is a misnomer. Americans aren’t lining up to serve, and the AVF is really an all-recruited force. Its previous annual recruitment of about 150,000 mostly young Americans, who are individually located, pitched, and incentivized to serve, comes at considerable effort and expense.
~Snip~
Should a true national security emergency arise, America lacks the ability to mobilize as Israel and Russia have done. The Individual Ready Reserve (IRR) — comprising former active duty or selected reserve personnel who could be reactivated by the Secretary of Defense during wartime or a national emergency — is designed to act as a bridge from the AVF to a revived draft. Almost forgotten even by servicemembers, the IRR earned brief notoriety when some servicemembers were “stop-lossed” during the Iraq War — pulled from the IRR and returned to active duty involuntarily, usually to deploy again.
Today, there are just over 264,000 servicemembers in the entire IRR. The Army’s IRR pool has shrunk from 700,000 in 1973 to 76,000 in 2023. Forget building new units in wartime: the IRR is now incapable of even providing sufficient casualty replacements for losses from the first battles of a high-intensity war.
~Snip~
The recruiting crisis is a greater national security threat to the United States than the wars that currently dominate the headlines. If there is one lesson America’s leaders should take from the conflicts in Europe and the Middle East, it is that troop mobilization and depth are still essential for fighting wars. As both Israel and Ukraine have learned, no amount of high-tech wizardry has changed this enduring reality of warfare. Should the United States fail to fix its military recruiting, it will risk losing a great power war — with enormous consequences for all Americans.



Commentary:
This is the worst take on our military I have ever seen. lol for starters the military doesn't need to be as large as our enemies. We are better trained and have better technology and force projection capabilities than any other military in the world. We have the most dominant navy that controls 90% of the worlds waters with basic tech that surpasses the best tech our enemies have. We have the ability to do more with less and the experience to back it up. A war with russia or china would be a very one-sided affair. The war in Iraq was most definitely won and the war in Afghanistan accomplished its objective but we hung around to long after.
My next door neighbor a recently retired USAF Master Sgt., tells me this is no longer the military we once knew or heard about.
Draconian rules during Covid and forced accpetance of Homosexal and trans personnel has done immense damage to recruitement.
Sure we can begin a Draft (conscription) in a war breaks out. It takes time to train our military from ground pounders to drone operators to pilots to Navy personnel.

The Complete Marine Corps Boot Camp Schedule (updated for 2024)

Marine Corps Boot Camp is the longest military basic training. It consists of more than 70 "training days" in a period of 13 weeks, with zero days off.

www.marinesbootcamphq.com

Then there's equipment problems.
The fact is that due to bidget cuts, the Navy has a lack of ships, and the Air Force is mainly flying F-16's and F-15's designs created in the 1970/80's.
America no longer manuactures steel, copper, lead or aluminum in quantities to sustain the needs for a war. We've seen in in supplying the Ukraine and Israel with cannon shells and limited Patriot missiles as well as ATM munitions.
We can than both the political paries for this mess.

8 years of obama and 4 years of biden/harris have demoralized and weakened our military

 

[Mac-7]

There will be little need for Troops if the two biggest nuclear powers in the world get into a shooting war. "They'll be no one to save, we're a world in a grave". ....Barry McGuire

When America is weak the chance of war with our enemies is the highest

 

[Mac-7]

I think the middle east is about to expode

 

[otto105]

8 years of obama and 4 years of biden/harris have demoralized and weakened our military

Hilarious

Stupid fuckup

 

[Mushroom]

Navy just initiated involuntary servitude (stop loss) over lack of aviators. Navy Times

Navy will force aviators to remain in service to complete sea tours

The Navy plans to require its pilots to complete their second at-sea tour before they can get out.

www.navytimes.com

Not "Stop Loss", that is keeping members past their minimal service requirements. And while in the past they often waived them not completing their second sea tour, now they are simply requiring that they finish it.

While Navy Personnel Command has historically signed off on such mid-tour separation requests, Navy pilots and naval flight officers will now fulfill the entire length of a second sea tour prior to departing the service.

“In accordance with MILPERSMAN 1301-108, and higher-level instructions, if determined by competitive category or designator that significant personnel shortages are a compelling military necessity for retention, then an Officer may be retained until the completion of the Prescribed Tour Length written in approved orders,” the document states.

Stop Loss was when they required them to serve past their minimal service time. Not unlike a change done about a decade ago, where the minimum service in the Army changed from "Four Years Total" to "Four Years service in your MOS after training is complete". That has actually long been in the contracts we signed, but most times it was waived as there was enough manpower that keeping people past 4 years (and not 4 years and 3-5 months) was never really needed. And a lot of it had to do with the cash bonus given. Because that was actually a separate contract that stipulated it was issued "after completion of training and for service in the assigned MOS".

Same here, and to be honest I think it is more than fair. The Government paid for them to go through flight school, and part of the agreement for Naval Aviators was to complete two sea duty cycles. So they are now asked to actually fulfill that agreement, as a taxpayer I think that is a good thing, actually. But you are clearly confusing what was at one time a typical early release, with simply requiring them to actually complete their agreed upon service. That is not "stop loss", not even close.

 

[Mushroom]

8 years of obama and 4 years of biden/harris have demoralized and weakened our military

Add in 4 years of President Trump also. He pretty much retained the same budgets, manpower numbers, and training tempo that we saw during the Obama Administration. That makes almost 16 years now of a stagnant military, and it's really going to be at least 20 because I can't see whoever wins this election changing that at all.

And the problem was not "demoralized and weakened", it is primarily lack of focus and goals. In all my time in the military before 2009, it was guaranteed we were going to be doing a hell of a lot of training. There were times I only saw my family on weekends from around May until October. Because during those months I was in the field more often than I was in garrison. And when not in the field, we were still training. But since 2009, a hell of a lot of time is now spend sitting on your ass in garrison, as there is no money in the budget to do training.

 

[Polishprince]

The problem with the military is that they have adopted pro-homo policies, but the homosexual community just isn't responding and signing up to serve.

When you encourage open homosexuality among the troops, that's a real deterrent to small town red blooded Americans, who really don't care to see it.

 

[otto105]

The problem with the military is that they have adopted pro-homo policies, but the homosexual community just isn't responding and signing up to serve.

When you encourage open homosexuality among the troops, that's a real deterrent to small town red blooded Americans, who really don't care to see it.

You mean small town white fuckups in mawmaw’s basement playing video games.

 

[gipper]

Donald Trump is done fighting the world's wars, but Leftists love it. Line's their idols' pockets with the fat cash they think they're gonna see some day

Donny wants to nuke Iran and destroy any nation who dares to oppose the country he really wants to make great again…Israel.

 

[Ringo]

Su-35 drives away the fighter “escort”
View from the cockpit of the “escort”. They say it's an F-16:

https://idiod.video/3kffak.mp4

 

[Ringo]

The first-ever restored
recordings of nuclear tests from the '50s.

https://idiod.video/lyxdsx.mp4

 

[rampart]

America isn’t ready for another war ​

—​

Because it doesn’t have the troops​

Vox.com

MSN

www.msn.com

1 Sep 2024 ~~ By

Coverage of the wars in Ukraine and Gaza is mostly dominated by talk of weapons. Reporters and analysts focus on suicide drones, on shell deficits, on targeting algorithms. But for all the attention devoted to modern weapons and munitions, both conflicts are proving that modern war still comes down to people.
In Ukraine, battlefield deaths on both sides were estimated to number more than 200,000 by the fall of 2023. Though US weapons and munitions have been critical to Kyiv’s war effort, it was territorial militias and hastily trained citizen-soldiers who helped save Ukraine from total conquest in 2022.
At the same time, it was a partial mobilization of more than 300,000 troops that stabilized Russia’s lines and prevented a potential collapse in late 2022. Today, the war has settled into an attritional slugfest, with both sides desperate to keep the flow of new recruits going, to the point where ranks have opened to older men, women, and convicts.
The situation is much the same in the Middle East. On October 7, Israel’s heavily automated Gaza perimeter was breached by well-trained but low-tech Hamas terrorists. The attack was eventually repulsed by conscript soldiers and armed volunteers — even in the “start-up nation” that prides itself on its technological prowess, security depends first and foremost on people. Similar to the Russian mobilization before the invasion of Ukraine, the immediate calling up of 360,000 reservists enabled Israel to conduct its campaign against Hamas and deter other non-state foes in the West Bank and Lebanon.
~Snip~
America did away with the draft 51 years ago, waging its many wars and interventions since with the All-Volunteer Force (AVF). But “all-volunteer” is a misnomer. Americans aren’t lining up to serve, and the AVF is really an all-recruited force. Its previous annual recruitment of about 150,000 mostly young Americans, who are individually located, pitched, and incentivized to serve, comes at considerable effort and expense.
~Snip~
Should a true national security emergency arise, America lacks the ability to mobilize as Israel and Russia have done. The Individual Ready Reserve (IRR) — comprising former active duty or selected reserve personnel who could be reactivated by the Secretary of Defense during wartime or a national emergency — is designed to act as a bridge from the AVF to a revived draft. Almost forgotten even by servicemembers, the IRR earned brief notoriety when some servicemembers were “stop-lossed” during the Iraq War — pulled from the IRR and returned to active duty involuntarily, usually to deploy again.
Today, there are just over 264,000 servicemembers in the entire IRR. The Army’s IRR pool has shrunk from 700,000 in 1973 to 76,000 in 2023. Forget building new units in wartime: the IRR is now incapable of even providing sufficient casualty replacements for losses from the first battles of a high-intensity war.
~Snip~
The recruiting crisis is a greater national security threat to the United States than the wars that currently dominate the headlines. If there is one lesson America’s leaders should take from the conflicts in Europe and the Middle East, it is that troop mobilization and depth are still essential for fighting wars. As both Israel and Ukraine have learned, no amount of high-tech wizardry has changed this enduring reality of warfare. Should the United States fail to fix its military recruiting, it will risk losing a great power war — with enormous consequences for all Americans.



Commentary:
This is the worst take on our military I have ever seen. lol for starters the military doesn't need to be as large as our enemies. We are better trained and have better technology and force projection capabilities than any other military in the world. We have the most dominant navy that controls 90% of the worlds waters with basic tech that surpasses the best tech our enemies have. We have the ability to do more with less and the experience to back it up. A war with russia or china would be a very one-sided affair. The war in Iraq was most definitely won and the war in Afghanistan accomplished its objective but we hung around to long after.
My next door neighbor a recently retired USAF Master Sgt., tells me this is no longer the military we once knew or heard about.
Draconian rules during Covid and forced accpetance of Homosexal and trans personnel has done immense damage to recruitement.
Sure we can begin a Draft (conscription) in a war breaks out. It takes time to train our military from ground pounders to drone operators to pilots to Navy personnel.

The Complete Marine Corps Boot Camp Schedule (updated for 2024)

Marine Corps Boot Camp is the longest military basic training. It consists of more than 70 "training days" in a period of 13 weeks, with zero days off.

www.marinesbootcamphq.com

Then there's equipment problems.
The fact is that due to bidget cuts, the Navy has a lack of ships, and the Air Force is mainly flying F-16's and F-15's designs created in the 1970/80's.
America no longer manuactures steel, copper, lead or aluminum in quantities to sustain the needs for a war. We've seen in in supplying the Ukraine and Israel with cannon shells and limited Patriot missiles as well as ATM munitions.
We can than both the political paries for this mess.

we are americans. trump can send his own suckers and losers to seize syrian oil and level his new miami beach at gaza.

can we nationalize the proud boys? or are the little incels too busy harassing law abiding citizens?