Four (or Eight) More Years?

[Harpy Eagle]

*The "Art of the Deal" refers to negotiation. (You don't show all your cards at the beginning.) Trump is a master at this.

No, he is not.

First off he did not even write the book and 2nd he got his ass handed to him in every negotiation he tried while POTUS.

I mean, Nancy Pelosi took him to the shed.

 

[Orangecat]

Throughout his private life it has been his way or the highway which meant he never had need to build a consensus.

Leaders lead. Consensus is the domain of bent-wristed community organizers.

 

[my2¢]

Leaders lead. Consensus is the domain of bent-wristed community organizers.

Doesn't change the fact that Trump is an ineffective leader. He sure didn't lead us during COVID. At least that's the impression I got as the MAGA crowd certainly weren't expressing satisfaction with how things were handled. Over the next 4 years, we're screwed either way.

 

[Orangecat]

Doesn't change the fact that Trump is an ineffective leader. He sure didn't lead us during COVID. At least that's the impression I got as the MAGA crowd certainly weren't expressing satisfaction with how things were handled. Over the next 4 years, we're screwed either way.

I don’t buy into the “Trump’s response to COVID was terrible” talking point. It was made up by a desperate democrat party because he was invulnerable on every other front. Trump didn’t cause COVID, and was labeled as a racist for trying to limit our exposure and accurately describing its origin. If the best the left has is “he tried to downplay it”, that’s weak sauce.

 

[Couchpotato]

And then you drones will tell us how different the two sides are

Have I EVER said that? Or anything even resembling that?

 

[Couchpotato]

Neither administration has an inflation policy. It’s the anti fossil fuel positions that drive up gas prices, which drive up the prices of nearly everything else. One side has promised to end fossil fuels, the other says “drill, baby, drill”. One side presided over approximately 2% inflation, the other has been a wild ride of massive price increases.
TRUMP 2024 for me.

Your lack of understanding what causes inflation is duly noted.

 

[Couchpotato]

I don’t buy into the “Trump’s response to COVID was terrible” talking point. It was made up by a desperate democrat party because he was invulnerable on every other front. Trump didn’t cause COVID, and was labeled as a racist for trying to limit our exposure and accurately describing its origin. If the best the left has is “he tried to downplay it”, that’s weak sauce.

Trump was terrible on COVID. Not for the reasons the left says he was terrible, but he was terrible none the less

 

[Couchpotato]

Statements (1) through (4) below:

To suggest that there would be little or no difference between a Trump presidency and a Harris presidency is ridiculous:

*The "Art of the Deal" refers to negotiation. (You don't show all your cards at the beginning.) Trump is a master at this.

1 Did Trump reduce the national debt and just not tell anyone? And no COVID is not the only reason the debt went up. His response didn’t help but it wasn’t the only reason the debt went up in 16, 17, 18 and 19.

2. Present your evidence ( that won’t change that it’s debatable)

3. What’s the indication that he will lower telhe national debt if elected in 24? Has he even said he would?

4. Provide a link to Trump outlining how he will end the Ukraine war. How about a link to him even stating he wants to end the war in Gaza.

 

[jwoodie]

1 Did Trump reduce the national debt and just not tell anyone? And no COVID is not the only reason the debt went up. His response didn’t help but it wasn’t the only reason the debt went up in 16, 17, 18 and 19.

The Debt went up $3 trillion from 2016 to 2019. It went up $4 trillion in 2020 (COVID). It went up $6 trillion from 2020 to 2023 and will rise another $3 trillion in 2024. Non-COVID deficits were $1 trillion a year under Trump and at least $2 trillion a year under Biden/Harris.

2. Present your evidence ( that won’t change that it’s debatable)

A lack of new wars under Trump is ipso facto evidence.

3. What’s the indication that he will lower telhe national debt if elected in 24? Has he even said he would?

See No. 1 above. "Lowering the debt" is word play. The important factor is lowering the debt/GDP ratio. Trump will stimulate real GDP growth through lower corporate taxes, as opposed to Kamala's fake growth through government spending (and inflation).

4. Provide a link to Trump outlining how he will end the Ukraine war. How about a link to him even stating he wants to end the war in Gaza.

The "Art of the Deal" refers to negotiation. (You don't show all your cards at the beginning.) Trump is a master at this.

 

[candycorn]

We didn't have multi trillion dollar deficits under Trump.

$8T is a multi trillion debt.

And we weren't involved in ANY wars with Trump.

Oh? We were not in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria etc... under your blob?

 

[Couchpotato]

Oh? We were not in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria etc... under your blob?

No new wars dumdum.

 

[candycorn]

No new wars dumdum.

I never made that allegation dumdum.

 

[Orangecat]

Your lack of understanding what causes inflation is duly noted.

GFY.

 

[Orangecat]

Trump was terrible on COVID. Not for the reasons the left says he was terrible, but he was terrible none the less

Specifically, how so? Don’t just spout off like an idiot, back your shit up.