Dresden in 1945

Many thanks,

I'll keep looking for examples of "Losers writing the history"..... wish me luck.

Meanwhile, this is another example of the degree to which the Holocaust Industry is desperate to repress anything that threatens their profitable reparations racket:


"BOOK ON JEWISH-RUN REVENGE' CAMPS IS PULLED"

EXCERPT "A German publisher has abruptly canceled a book that investigates the Jewish role in running internment camps in Poland after World War II, saying the work otherwise could be "cause for some misunderstanding." The 6,000 copies printed will be destroyed.

For six months after the war, Morel ran an internment camp for German civilians in the Polish community of Swietochlowice.

Former inmates told Sack that Morel brutalized, tortured and killed some of the German civilians housed at the camp. Two years ago, Morel fled to Israel; Polish authorities are reportedly considering filing murder charges against him." CONTINUED


Next, because the Allies could find no homicidal gas chambers, they forced German POWs to build a fake one.

When the world was invited to inspect this homicidal gas chamber, it was quietly dismissed as yet another Allied propaganda ploy.


"NKVD Forced German POWs to Build Fake Gas Chambers AFTER the War !"

EXCERPT "As a young officer, Gerhart Schirmer was captured in 1945 by the Russians and held in Sachsenhausen which the Russians continued to use as a prison.

Although the War and Nazism were over, Schirmer and a few fellow-prisoners were forced to construct a gas chamber and execution room, to show the world what the Nazis had done. He described his experiences in a booklet entitled 'Sachsenhausen - Workuta, Zehn Jahre in den Fängen der Sowjets' (Grabert Verlag, Tübingen, 1992).

When 'certain groups' drew the attention of the authorities to the booklet's contents, it was seized and banned in Germany. This is described by Schirmer below (my translation). I understand Schirmer was given the choice of a fine or prison and he chose the fine because, being over ninety, he did not relish spending his last few years behind bars, especially as he had already spent eleven years of his life in prison." CONTINUED

Thanks again and keep up the good work,
As a military historian, this is one case of "loser writing history that comes to mind. I could find many more were I inclined (and getting paid;) )
...
Panzer Leader (German: Erinnerungen eines Soldaten, literally "Memories of a Soldier") is an autobiography by Heinz Guderian. The book, written during his imprisonment by the Allies after the war, describes Guderian's service in the Panzer arm of the Heer before and during World War II.

The most prominent English language version is the 1952 translation by Constantine Fitzgibbon, with a foreword by B. H. Liddell Hart. The Da Capo Press editions have an additional introduction by Kenneth Macksey.
...
 
:thankusmile: Its sick how Hitler always got demonized with the inflated six million myth but even with the myth that’s nowhere near the documented number of 20 million Russian citizens stalin murdered and yet,Hitler is the one that always gets demonized by our corrupt school system and thought of as the most evil man ever to walk the planet yet stalin always gets a free pass and is an afterthought to Hitler.:cuckoo:

The reason why Hollywood always demonizes Hitler but stalin always gets a free pass is because fellow mass murderers fdr and Eisenhower were buddy’s with him referring to him as uncle Joe.you go into the friendship they had with a mass murderer then they get exposed for how they were as demonic and as much mass murderers as stalin was,can’t have that.

Can’t have two of Americas most popular presidents on coins demonized,can’t have that.Americas most popular presidents on our money bills are actually the most corrupt,the ones thst served the people like Howard Taft and John Tyler never get the recoginstion they deserve by Hollywood.Hollywood always glamorizes the most famous presidents cause they are the most corrupt.Washington the exception.
From the resident neo-Nazi, modern incarnation of Goebbels.
 
Three farts in a row from stryder. :yes_text12: Thank god fir the ignore list.
 
You may want to let NATO know that.

NATO member countries​

Shows the USA is still a member. :rolleyes:

Seldom I heard such an idiotic and unreal "answer". Trump was always a problem and no solution - and now the whole USA is a problem and no solution. You are fighting on the side of Putin against the Ukraine and Europe and call this "peace". You are only a Troyan horse in the NATO any longer and no real member of the NATO.

By the way: Congrats, Putin. Vanity is a powerful weapon. It will be interesting to see how you yourself will collapse under it.
 
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... George Orwell once said:

"Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."

Denken is Glückssache.
German saying
Thinking is a matter of luck.


History is what really had happened. What people think what really had happend will change nothing. Except it is wrong what someone thinks. Then his ideas about the past will be wrong, his decisions in the present will perhaps also be wrong and his future could be wrong or will not be at all.

The more rubbish someone produces, the more rubbish he will have to fight through again and again.
 
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Three farts in a row from stryder. :yes_text12: Thank god fir the ignore list.
stryder has a farting problem. he shts all over the floor whenever he opens up his mouth.:rofl:
Many thanks,

I'll keep looking for examples of "Losers writing the history"..... wish me luck.

Meanwhile, this is another example of the degree to which the Holocaust Industry is desperate to repress anything that threatens their profitable reparations racket:


"BOOK ON JEWISH-RUN REVENGE' CAMPS IS PULLED"

EXCERPT "A German publisher has abruptly canceled a book that investigates the Jewish role in running internment camps in Poland after World War II, saying the work otherwise could be "cause for some misunderstanding." The 6,000 copies printed will be destroyed.

For six months after the war, Morel ran an internment camp for German civilians in the Polish community of Swietochlowice.

Former inmates told Sack that Morel brutalized, tortured and killed some of the German civilians housed at the camp. Two years ago, Morel fled to Israel; Polish authorities are reportedly considering filing murder charges against him." CONTINUED


Next, because the Allies could find no homicidal gas chambers, they forced German POWs to build a fake one.

When the world was invited to inspect this homicidal gas chamber, it was quietly dismissed as yet another Allied propaganda ploy.


"NKVD Forced German POWs to Build Fake Gas Chambers AFTER the War !"

EXCERPT "As a young officer, Gerhart Schirmer was captured in 1945 by the Russians and held in Sachsenhausen which the Russians continued to use as a prison.

Although the War and Nazism were over, Schirmer and a few fellow-prisoners were forced to construct a gas chamber and execution room, to show the world what the Nazis had done. He described his experiences in a booklet entitled 'Sachsenhausen - Workuta, Zehn Jahre in den Fängen der Sowjets' (Grabert Verlag, Tübingen, 1992).

When 'certain groups' drew the attention of the authorities to the booklet's contents, it was seized and banned in Germany. This is described by Schirmer below (my translation). I understand Schirmer was given the choice of a fine or prison and he chose the fine because, being over ninety, he did not relish spending his last few years behind bars, especially as he had already spent eleven years of his life in prison." CONTINUED

Thanks again and keep up the good work,
The proof in the pudding you are telling the truth is the censorship here going on. :rofl: When I tried to click on that link you provided of that Germany newspaper censoring the six million myth,it demands that I subscribe before I can read the link,total censorship,the truth hurts.:rofl:great job of getting out the truth that is politically incorrect to the elite, keep up the good work Grau :up:
Stryder is another paid shill from Langley thst has penetrated this site same as Otto and toddster parrot.
 
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First, where I have ever denied that the Holocaust happened?

Unless you can validate that lie it would be entirely accurate for readers to dismiss you as just another slanderous and brainwashed dishonest individual whose only argument is slander.

I lived, worked and studied in Germany over fifty years ago where I knew dozens of Holocaust survivors and WW 2 Veterans from both sides of the war.

Additionally, I've read salient documents, speeches and reports in the original German and am just not dumb enough to blindly believe each and every impossible, unsupportable, and profitable lie marketed by the fraudulent Holocaust Industry (1), (2) and its gullible hucksters.

Next, I find it amusing that in your mind censorship = Truth.

The fact that refuting lies about only the Holocaust is a "Thought Crime" only exposes the enormous degree to which the standard Holocaust narrative has been grossly distorted , crassly exploited and weaponized to inflict a real genocide against Palestine's native residents.

The truth doesn't need censorship to protect it but a lie cannot survive without it.

Technically, the Holocaust was not a genocide against Europe's unfortunate Jews since 150,000 Jews served in Hitler's military with 25 of them rising to the rank of General.
Additionally, there were several Jews who were high ranking National Socialist (aka Nazi) party members. (3)

Finally, you wrote:


You wrote: "(I guess up to the fourth generation)"

What unsupportable nonsense.

Holocaust survivor, Moshe Peer, claims to have survived six gassings in non existent homicidal gas chambers so I doubt that he would suffer "Serious bodily injury" from a healthy dose of reality.

I have studied Psychology and worked in the field long enough to recognize self-serving psycho-babble when I see transparent attempts to monopolize the profitable pity market and criminalize honest free speech.

I hope that you'll consider the most obvious reasons that the multi billion dollar Holocaust Industry is so desperate to repress honest examination and open discussion of their profitable "product".



(1). "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


(2)"HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"

EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED


(3). “List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent

EXCERPT “Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of full and partial Jewish descent. “ CONTINUED
:thankusmile: Excellent stuff there,thanks for getting the truth out and once again,keep up the good work Grau :thup:
 
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Hey, Dummy, Why not make it "6 Trillion Jews"?

Is there any moronic fable you won't believe?

Even Jewish sources debunk your "6 million Jews" scam.


"Was there Really a Holocaust?"

EXCERPT "The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanac's figures were supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Next the Jewish-owned New York Times of February 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish population for that year amounted "to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000 in addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine." How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?"CONTINUED

Come back when you've got something other than profitable Holocaust fairy tales.
Yeah really why stop there,let’s make it 6 trillion Jews why stop at six million when that number is already a myth. :abgg2q.jpg: Well said.
 
Thanks,

Yes, simple and irrefutable facts are anathema to this brainwashed gaggle of "Hollywood educated" Holocaustian cult members.

What else can you expect when you're dealing with individuals too dumb to know that the Allies used propaganda too.

America's wartime propaganda ministry was the O.W.I. (Office of War Information).
Today, since the beginning of the Gaza Genocide, Hollywood is desperately churning out fictitious Holocaust fodder so dear to small minded anti German bigots.

Right down there with the fictitious "human skin lampshades", shrunken heads, "human skin pocketbooks" etc is the "Homicidal Gas Chamber" and infamous "vaporizer" (1)

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The Holocaust Industry was lying then just as it is lying today.





(1). "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts"

EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." [8] No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales." CONTINUED
You nailed it,they are too much of a stupid fuck to understand the Allie’s churned out propaganda a well and what’s really pathetic,these uneducated dumbasses are too fucking stupid to understand Hollywood is controlled by the Zionists and is STILL churning out propaganda so it’s no wonder it’s always Hitler this and that yet they never touch on Eisenhower fdr and Churchill s cozy relationship with mass murderer of twenty million Soviet citizens stalin who always gets a free pass from Hollywood.they won’t touch stalin sense fdr and Churchill were pals with a mass murderer.
 
There's absolutely no tangible evidence to support the " 6 million Jews" fable.


Something else you don't seem to know is that there were several Jews who were high ranking members of the "white fascist regime" and about 150,000 Jews who fought in Germany's military with 25 of them who were Jewish Generals.

Meanwhile, Hitler 's doctor, his driver, fellow WW 1 Veterans, his friends in Vienna's art community and young "Pen Pal" were all Jewish. (Rosa Nienau)

If you are genuinely concerned about real genocides, ask America's politicians who are controlled by parasitic Zionist lobbies to defund Netanyahu's genocide.

Thanks,
:thankusmile: :TH_WAY~113::yes_text12: Too many pesky facts like this have the braindead here like Stryder and marble throwing chairs at the wall in anger with you speaking too much truth that hurts theirfeelimgs Grau :abgg2q.jpg::rofl:
 
Would seem English comprehension is another subject area you flunked when in school. (As we as spelling and grammar from reading your post.)
To refresh, this is what I said;
" Third; Losers also write history, their own versions of course. Coming back to the hindsight item above, it is often interesting post-war/event to compare winner to loser accounts." FWIW, often both the winner and the loser versions are not the full nor completely accurate version.

As for "trollboy", I present about ten times (at least) as many facts and sources in my posts than you do.

If there's any "trollboy" posting on this thread it would be your Marxist/Leftist propaganda and distorted perspective !
it's the POLISH PEASANT pov. ----both pre and post and during WORLD WAR II. The germans knew what they were doing when they planted their most nefarious killing camps in Poland and and the Islamo-nazis know to whom their
propaganda appeals which--INCIDENTALLY, includes stories
of jewish run torture camps for "blond blue-eyed polish
children" Some things never change. "blond blue-eyed
children"----THAT is a direct quote from the islamo-nazi literature which inundated the american red-neck Wasp town of my childhood since the mid 1930s. It's almost funny. Today the same literature shows up in prisons and drug rehab
centers
 
Seldom I heard such an idiotic and unreal "answer". Trump was always a problem and no solution - and now the whole USA is a problem and no solution. You are fighting on the side of Putin against the Ukraine and Europe and call this "peace". You are only a Troyan horse in the NATO any longer and no real member of the NATO.

By the way: Congrats, Putin. Vanity is a powerful weapon. It will be interesting to see how you yourself will collapse under it.
No we are not. Trump is trapping Putin. Putin will be seen by his few allies as not being willing to end his aggressive war without total victory.
 
At least you made fun of the Holocaust by using the number ‘6 trillion’.



If you are no Holocaust denier then I was wrong.



Which both sides?



Totally clear now. You are a Holocaust denier.



No.


Re: You are a Holocaust denier.

I think most rational and mature adults will agree that simple name calling is not a fact based refutation so, you have neither refuted any fact I've written nor shown anywhere that your accusations are honest and accurate.

Because the standard Holocaust narrative changes with the unveiling of each exaggeration, fraud, and glaring impossibility, the fatuous term "Holocaust denier" is a meaningless epithet coined Holocaust huckster, D. Lipstadt whose ignorance is so profound that her $60 Million legal team prohibited her from opening her mouth during the Irving slander trial.(1)

Just as all sides use propaganda during wartime (and peace), misrepresenting the facts about Germany's WW 2 work camps was the cornerstone of Allied atrocity propaganda as I have posted in previous comments.

Because most of the world has watched the standard Holocaust narrative quietly disintegrate lie, by lie,(2) fewer people believe in "human skin lampshades", genocidal steam, electrocution and gas chambers, and "human vaporizers" than ever.

It is precisely because the only form of rebuttal that gullible disciples of the Holocaust cult can come up with is slander (i.e. "Holocaust denier") that they are so widely dismissed as little more than insulting tantrums by brainwashed rubes.

Believe in the "human vaporizer" or be slandered as a "Holocaust denier"?


(1). “Ms. Lipstadt Given Million$ & a Legal Army to put History via David Irving on Trial: Now We’re All Paying The Price”


EXCERPT “David Irving was viciously smeared by the media after his testimony at the 1988 Ernst Zündel trial. Irving’s books disappeared from many bookshops, he sustained huge financial losses, and he was ultimately labeled as a “Holocaust denier”.[1]

“The harassment campaign against David Irving included numerous arrests in various countries.

The Holocaust story would not need criminal sanctions to protect it if it was historically accurate.” CONTINUED


(2). ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

EXCERPT "Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts. Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth. Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."CONTINUED


(3). "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts"
EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." [8] No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales." CONTINUED
 
I think most rational and mature adults will agree that simple name calling is not a fact based refutation so, you have neither refuted any fact I've written nor shown anywhere that your accusations are honest and accurate.

Because the standard Holocaust narrative changes with the unveiling of each exaggeration, fraud, and glaring impossibility, the fatuous term "Holocaust denier" is a meaningless epithet coined Holocaust huckster, D. Lipstadt whose ignorance is so profound that her $60 Million legal team prohibited her from opening her mouth during the Irving slander trial.(1)

Just as all sides use propaganda during wartime (and peace), misrepresenting the facts about Germany's WW 2 work camps was the cornerstone of Allied atrocity propaganda as I have posted in previous comments.

Because most of the world has watched the standard Holocaust narrative quietly disintegrate lie, by lie,(2) fewer people believe in "human skin lampshades", genocidal steam, electrocution and gas chambers, and "human vaporizers" than ever.

It is precisely because the only form of rebuttal that gullible disciples of the Holocaust cult can come up with is slander (i.e. "Holocaust denier") that they are so widely dismissed as little more than insulting tantrums by brainwashed rubes.

Believe in the "human vaporizer" or be slandered as a "Holocaust denier"?


(1). “Ms. Lipstadt Given Million$ & a Legal Army to put History via David Irving on Trial: Now We’re All Paying The Price”


EXCERPT “David Irving was viciously smeared by the media after his testimony at the 1988 Ernst Zündel trial. Irving’s books disappeared from many bookshops, he sustained huge financial losses, and he was ultimately labeled as a “Holocaust denier”.[1]

“The harassment campaign against David Irving included numerous arrests in various countries.

The Holocaust story would not need criminal sanctions to protect it if it was historically accurate.” CONTINUED


(2). ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

EXCERPT "Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts. Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth. Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."CONTINUED


(3). "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts"
EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." [8] No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales." CONTINUED
:thankusmile: :TH_WAY~113: :thup:
 
No we are not. Trump is trapping Putin. Putin will be seen by his few allies as not being willing to end his aggressive war without total victory.

I'm not interested in English and Russian bullshit in this context any longer. We will see what will happen. By the way: Is your neighbour currently negotiating your rent with your new unknown landlord after he drove into your own house with his tank?
 
:thankusmile: :TH_WAY~113::yes_text12: Too many pesky facts like this have the braindead here like Stryder and marble throwing chairs at the wall in anger with you speaking too much truth that hurts theirfeelimgs Grau :abgg2q.jpg::rofl:


I genuinely appreciate your kind words and am neither trying to offend anyone or deny that mainly Communist Jews were persecuted, incarcerated, tortured and frequently executed.

Most student of this tragic era are not exposed to the degree to which WW 2 was a War between National Socialism and Communism.

It just so happened that over 80% of the early Communist Party was Jewish who made no secret of their ambitions:

"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of
Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What was performed in so
excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction and by
Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an physical forces, become a reality
all over the world."-


New York American Hebrew
, 20 September 1920.


While Stalin eventually purged his Communist Jewish officials and war criminals, it was not before they were instrumental in the systematic extermination of more victims than subsequent genocides (Mao ?)


"Stalin's Jews"

"We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

EXCERPT "And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people.

In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges.

Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist."CONTINUED



I am not attempting to demonize the Jewish people or to deny that many of them were persecuted simply because they had cultural differences, religion etc.

At the same time, all of Europe was horrified by the pre WW 2 Communist atrocities and ambitions of murderous Jews like Ginrikh Yagota, Leonid Reichman and others.

The National Socialists came to power during and after the tumultuous 1920s and 1930 when Germany was especially weak and vulnerable to Communist rule imposed by the same brutal Communists, most of whose leaders were atheistic Jews.

Since the victors write the History, Germany was, of course, blamed for starting WW 2.
From the same Western MSM, Hollywood and Holocaust Industry that controls what Americans read and hear, no mention is made of the Poland's relentless mass murder of ethnic Germans, the theft of their land or that Germany appealed to the League of Nation dozens of times with no action being taken.

Finally, the same disingenuous Allied myth-makers claimed that Germany attacked Russia in order to "rule the world" when the truth is that Stalin already had his massive army in offensive positions and planned to sweep West through all of Europe and beyond.

"Exposing Stalin’s Plan to Conquer Europe:…"

EXCERPT "In Icebreaker, Suvorov details the deployment of Soviet forces in June 1941, describing just how Stalin amassed vast numbers of troops and stores of weapons along the European frontier, not to defend the Soviet homeland but in preparation for a westward attack and decisive battles on enemy territory.

Thus, when German forces struck, the bulk of Red ground and air forces were concentrated along the Soviet western borders facing contiguous European countries, especially the German Reich and Romania, in final readiness for an assault on Europe.

In his second book on the origins of the war, “M Day” (for “Mobilization Day”), Suvorov details how, between late 1939 and the summer of 1941, Stalin methodically and systematically built up the best armed, most powerful military force in the world — actually the world’s first superpower — for his planned conquest of Europe. Suvorov explains how Stalin’s drastic conversion of the country’s economy for war actually made war inevitable."CONTINUED


Over fifty years ago when I was living, working and studying in Germany, I worked with a German stone mason who had been a young officer on the Eastern Front.
Long before Suvorov's book appeared, this war Veteran attributed Germany's rapid, initial victories to the fact that the Russian army was without defensive barriers. This eyewitness supports Suvorov's assertions.

Thanks, again for your enthusiastic and uplifting compliments.
Because my time is limited, I'm unable to respond to all responses and must ignore the redundant and snarky troll fodder.

Best wishes and have fun.
 
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