It's Weird How It Took 20 Years for Anyone To Notice Six Million Jews Were Missing

[Street Juice]

In many forums, if not in most forums, the OP would have been deleted minutes after being posted and the author would have been banned from the forum. I very rarely support such censorship, but I can certainly understand it in the case of Holocaust denial. Personally, I would create a Nutty/Obscene Theories subforum for Holocaust denial, the anti-Semitic blood libel myth, the fake Moon landing theory, the 9/11 Truth conspiracy theories, etc., but I can sympathize with forums that ban all Holocaust denial threads.

Hey, dope, why not refute the argument instead of name-call?

Oh, that's right. Because you can't.

 

[Grau]

Go pedal your antisemitic bullshit somewhere else.

That's what everyone says when they can't compose an articulate and honest rebuttal.

Facts are facts no matter what you call them.

Meanwhile, relentlessly howling the word "anti Semite" / "anti Semitic" has rendered it a meaningless "Trick":

“Don’t be caught out by ‘the trick’”

Don’t be caught out by ‘the trick'

In August 2002 former Israeli Minister of Education Shulamit Aloni was interviewed on the radio and television program Democracy Now .

www.scoop.co.nz

EXCERPTS "“Well, it’s a trick, we always use it. When from Europe somebody is criticizing Israel, then we bring up the Holocaust. When in this country people are criticizing Israel, then they are anti-Semitic.....

And it’s very easy to blame people who criticize certain acts of the Israeli government as anti-Semitic, and to bring up the Holocaust, and the suffering of the Jewish people, and that is to justify everything we do to the Palestinians.”CONTINUED

Shulamit Aloni

 

[Grau]

Hey, dope, why not refute the argument instead of name-call?

Oh, that's right. Because you can't.

I might be able to help with that.

"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser"
- Socrates

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Any one who claims the holocaust didnt happen is a fool

 

[Grau]

Any one who claims the holocaust didnt happen is a fool

Can you please name anyone who has said that it didn't happen?

I have not seen anything here and don't know of anyone who claims that it didn't happen.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Can you please name anyone who has said that it didn't happen?

I have not seen anything here and don't know of anyone who claims that it didn't happen.

The op says it didnt happen

 

[Street Juice]

The op says it didnt happen

There was never an official Nazi policy to exterminate Europe's Jews.

 

[Street Juice]

Can you please name anyone who has said that it didn't happen?

I have not seen anything here and don't know of anyone who claims that it didn't happen.

You have to ask whether they mean by "Holocaust" the murder of six million Jews by the Germans? or the murder of sixty-six million Russians by the Jews that began 16 years before Hitler came to power.

 

[irosie91]

Hey, dope, why not refute the argument instead of name-call?

Oh, that's right. Because you can't.

what 'argument' ?

 

[Grau]

You have to ask whether they mean by "Holocaust" the murder of six million Jews by the Germans? or the murder of sixty-six million Russians by the Jews that began 16 years before Hitler came to power.

I'm pretty sure that the few remaining people in the world who believe the standard Holocaust narrative mean: "THE One and Only Holocaust®" in which most Jews died from typhus and some real or perceived Jewish / Communist threats were executed.

When I say "...few remaining people" because fewer and fewer people around the word are falling for the grossly exaggerated, crassly exploited and immensely profitable standard Holocaust narrative. (1)

What is most encouraging about the findings of this ADL study is that the younger people of tomorrow are apparently thinking for themselves and rejecting the fraudulent standard Holocaust narrative.

Next, I've lost track of the number of times someone has claimed to have heard, first-hand from an uncle, neighbor or dog catcher who saw the former German work camps immediately after the war and were appropriately horrified at what they saw.

What they really saw was the deceptive and creative genius of Hollywood's movie moguls and American propagandists in the O.W.I. (America's propaganda ministry.) (2)

Finally, the Allies were so desperate to demonize the Germans and promote fraudulent atrocity propaganda.
In one instance, the Communists and Western Allies were so desperate to find even one homicidal gas chamber that they forced German POWs to build a fake homicidal gas chamber to show journalists, politicians and world leaders.

It was unfortunate for Allied propagandists who had been unable to produce even one German made homicidal gas, steam or electrocution chamber that the new construction exposed this particular Allied propaganda hoax.

Predictably, when one of the POWs charged with building the fake homicidal gas chamber wrote a book about his experiences, "certain groups" complained because of the hoax it revealed.

It is precisely this sort of censorship (book banning / burning) along with blatant atrocity propaganda that has so effectively deceived the gullible.

Please remember:

"Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."
- George Orwell
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Thanks,



(1). ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”

The World Is Full of Holocaust Deniers

A new survey suggests that many Asians, Africans, Middle Easterners, young people, Muslims, and Hindus believe that facts about the genocide have been distorted.

www.theatlantic.com

EXCERPT “Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

- Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

- Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

- Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

- people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED


(2). “The Director of the Holocau$t - Khazar Expatriate Billy Wilder”
https://archive.org/details/TheDirectorOfTheHolocaut KhazarExpatriateBillyWilder

EXCERPT “Almost all the films you've ever seen of the Holocaust were staged. Using Allied propaganda as a rough script, directors from Hollywood were shipped to Germany and Poland to direct propaganda films for post-war use. One of the most notable of these was Billy Wilder, director of meny very well known films, such as "Some Like It Hot" with Marilyn Monroe." CONTINUED


(3) "NKVD Forced German POWs to Build Fake Gas Chambers AFTER the War !"

NKVD Forced German POWs to Build Fake Gas Chambers AFTER the War !

I was held by the Russians in Sachsen-hausen, and made to build a gas chamber there; this is what I saw

vk.com

EXCERPT "As a young officer, Gerhart Schirmer was captured in 1945 by the Russians and held in Sachsenhausen which the Russians continued to use as a prison.

Although the War and Nazism were over, Schirmer and a few fellow-prisoners were forced to construct a gas chamber and execution room, to show the world what the Nazis had done. He described his experiences in a booklet entitled 'Sachsenhausen - Workuta, Zehn Jahre in den Fängen der Sowjets' (Grabert Verlag, Tübingen, 1992).

When 'certain groups' drew the attention of the authorities to the booklet's contents, it was seized and banned in Germany. This is described by Schirmer below (my translation). I understand Schirmer was given the choice of a fine or prison and he chose the fine because, being over ninety, he did not relish spending his last few years behind bars, especially as he had already spent eleven years of his life in prison." CONTINUED

 

[mikegriffith1]

Hey, dope, why not refute the argument instead of name-call? Oh, that's right. Because you can't.

You're joking, right? "Why not refute the argument"? Why would I waste time refuting an obscene nutcase argument that has already been refuted to the satisfaction of 99.99% of all scholars who have examined it?

I mean, where do they find you people? Seriously, how can any sane, rational person raised in the Western world deny the Holocaust? Huh? Were all the thousands of Holocaust survivors lying about what they saw in the death camps? Was all the film footage of the death camps taken by Allied soldiers faked? Were all the Nazi internal memos that document that millions of Jews were killed in the camps forged?

Yes, we have ugly fringe anti-Semitic types like JoeB131 here who claim that Jews have controlled the American government for decades and that powerful Jews covered up the supposedly intentional Israeli attack on the USS Liberty, but it would have taken a gigantic and all-powerful conspiracy to fake the photographic and documentary evidence of the Holocaust. Holocaust denial is not just obscene--it's crazy.

Do you next want me to prove the Earth is "really" round?

 

[Street Juice]

Were all the thousands of Holocaust survivors lying about what they saw in the death camps?

Yes. Except about how they could tell when Jews were being cremated because the smoke was a different color. That was true. LOL

Was all the film footage of the death camps taken by Allied soldiers faked?

You mean of the starving prisoners? The German civilians were themselves starving, thanks to Allied bombing.

Were all the Nazi internal memos that document that millions of Jews were killed in the camps forged?

Well, no those are authentic. Except they don't exist. We were actually decrypting the communications between Auschwitz and the high command in Berlin in real time and no mention whatsoever was made of any extermination program. That's no doubt why neither Dwight Eisenhower, Winston Churchill, nor Charles De Gaulle mentions an extermination program in their war memoirs, though they would have every reason to emphasize such a fact had it actually occurred.

Face it. Your stupid little Holocaust is a giant hoax and the world is awake to the lies of the Jews. Even the West is awaking. There will be hell to pay.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Yes. Except about how they could tell when Jews were being cremated because the smoke was a different color. That was true. LOL

You mean of the starving prisoners? The German civilians were themselves starving, thanks to Allied bombing.

Well, no those are authentic. Except they don't exist. We were actually decrypting the communications between Auschwitz and the high command in Berlin in real time and no mention whatsoever was made of any extermination program. That's no doubt why neither Dwight Eisenhower, Winston Churchill, nor Charles De Gaulle mentions an extermination program in their war memoirs, though they would have every reason to emphasize such a fact had it actually occurred.

Face it. Your stupid little Holocaust is a giant hoax and the world is awake to the lies of the Jews. Even the West is awaking. There will be hell to pay.

This is crazy talk spewed by someone who has read nothing but neo-Nazi/jihadist/radical Muslim propaganda on the Holocaust.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Well, no those are authentic. Except they don't exist.

LOL! Uh, yeah they do.

Do you know who David Irving is? He is a military historian who began acknowledging the Holocaust, then flirted with Holocaust denial for a time in the 1980s, but then, to his great credit, changed his mind after spending years reviewing German army and Nazi primary source materials.

We were actually decrypting the communications between Auschwitz and the high command in Berlin in real time and no mention whatsoever was made of any extermination program. That's no doubt why neither Dwight Eisenhower, Winston Churchill, nor Charles De Gaulle mentions an extermination program in their war memoirs, though they would have every reason to emphasize such a fact had it actually occurred.

Wow. Ike and Churchill talked about the Holocaust in their memoirs!

 

[Grau]

"ALL SLANDER, NO SUBSTANCE."

You're joking, right? "Why not refute the argument"? Why would I waste time refuting an obscene nutcase argument that has already been refuted to the satisfaction of 99.99% of all scholars who have examined it?

I mean, where do they find you people? Seriously, how can any sane, rational person raised in the Western world deny the Holocaust? Huh? Were all the thousands of Holocaust survivors lying about what they saw in the death camps? Was all the film footage of the death camps taken by Allied soldiers faked? Were all the Nazi internal memos that document that millions of Jews were killed in the camps forged?

Yes, we have ugly fringe anti-Semitic types like JoeB131 here who claim that Jews have controlled the American government for decades and that powerful Jews covered up the supposedly intentional Israeli attack on the USS Liberty, but it would have taken a gigantic and all-powerful conspiracy to fake the photographic and documentary evidence of the Holocaust. Holocaust denial is not just obscene--it's crazy.

Do you next want me to prove the Earth is "really" round?

Re:

I mean, where do they find you people?

I ask myself the same thing.

Only the most gullible of hate filled rubes believes the innumerable Holocaustian fables churned out by a fraudulent Holocaust Industry (1), (2)

You are welcome to embrace countless ridiculous stories about "human skin pocket books", "human fat soap", genocidal electrocution, steam and gas chambers (aka "The Showers o' Death"), shrunken heads, anus gas pumps etc but it is actually you brainwashed ("Light load, spin dry") Holocaustians who are in the minority:

”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”

The World Is Full of Holocaust Deniers​

"A new survey suggests that many Asians, Africans, Middle Easterners, young people, Muslims, and Hindus believe that facts about the genocide have been distorted."

www.theatlantic.com

EXCERPT “Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

- Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

- Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

- Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

- people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED
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Next:

Was all the film footage of the death camps taken by Allied soldiers faked?

Do you really believe that the WW 2 Allies were the only people in military history not to use atrocity propaganda?
Almost 80 years later, the fraudulent Holocaust industry and its complicit Hollywood movie moguls are still churning out fictitious and hyperbolic Holocaustian melodrama just as they staged the grisly camp scenes where piles of bodies were largely supplemented by dead German POWs and civilians, shoes were added from shoe repair facilities and claimed to be those of the inmates.


“The Director of the Holocau$t - Khazar Expatriate Billy Wilder”
https://archive.org/details/TheDirectorOfTheHolocaut KhazarExpatriateBillyWilder

EXCERPT “Almost all the films you've ever seen of the Holocaust were staged. Using Allied propaganda as a rough script, directors from Hollywood were shipped to Germany and Poland to direct propaganda films for post-war use. One of the most notable of these was Billy Wilder, director of meny very well known films, such as "Some Like It Hot" with Marilyn Monroe." CONTINUED
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Finally, since there were no real homicidal gas chambers, Allied propagandists even had German POWs built a fake homicidal gas chamber to show the world.
However, when world leaders, historians and journalists looked more closely, they discovered the hoax.
When one of the former German POWs wrote and documented a book about their experience, "certain groups" complained that it detracted from the impossible Holocaust fable, the book was banned and its innocent author was threatened with prison time for telling the truth.


"NKVD Forced German POWs to Build Fake Gas Chambers AFTER the War !"

NKVD Forced German POWs to Build Fake Gas Chambers AFTER the War !

I was held by the Russians in Sachsen-hausen, and made to build a gas chamber there; this is what I saw

vk.com

EXCERPT "As a young officer, Gerhart Schirmer was captured in 1945 by the Russians and held in Sachsenhausen which the Russians continued to use as a prison. Although the War and Nazism were over, Schirmer and a few fellow-prisoners were forced to construct a gas chamber and execution room, to show the world what the Nazis had done. He described his experiences in a booklet entitled 'Sachsenhausen - Workuta, Zehn Jahre in den Fängen der Sowjets' (Grabert Verlag, Tübingen, 1992).

When 'certain groups' drew the attention of the authorities to the booklet's contents, it was seized and banned in Germany. This is described by Schirmer below (my translation). I understand Schirmer was given the choice of a fine or prison and he chose the fine because, being over ninety, he did not relish spending his last few years behind bars, especially as he had already spent eleven years of his life in prison." CONTINUED





(1)"17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


(2). "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"

Holocaust Claims Conference fraud likely ‘much higher’ than $57 million

For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.

www.jpost.com

EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.

Writing to the Claims Conference’s board last week, recently terminated ombudsman Shmuel Hollander asserted that, while reports had said organizational insiders had siphoned off $57 million in German taxpayer funds meant for survivors, “the final sum is in all probability much higher.” CONTINUE

 

[Papageorgio]

I went to the website, newspapers.com, and searched for the number of mentions in US newspapers for phrases related to four major events: “atomic bomb” (for the US use of atomic bombs on two Japanese cities in 1945), “twin towers” (for the 9/11 attacks in 2001), “Pearl Harbor” (for the Japanese attack on the US Navy in 1941), and “moon landing” (for the Apollo 11 mission in 1969).

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As one would completely expect, there is a sharp spike in mentions of the event in the decade in which it occurred.

Then I did the same for four phrases that would be associated with the Holocaust: “Holocaust,” “Nazi death camp,” and “extermination of Europe’s Jews,” which I combined with the results from a separate search on “extermination of European Jews.”

Here are the results:

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Grossly implausibly, there is the event in the 1940s and there is…nothing until the 1960s.

Very odd. Very devastatingly odd.

Even more telling, the slight increase in the Holocaust terms during the 1940s occurred mostly before the end of the war—before the Allied discovery of the systematic extermination of the Jews that had been going on. For example, the term “Nazi death camp” occurs in US papers 516 times between 1943 and 1945 when the wartime propaganda machine was churning out boatloads of anti-Nazi atrocity stories, then drops by nearly 70 percent upon the actual discovery of the Nazi death camps?1 There’s just no way that could happen if there had been actual death camps in Germany or Poland or anywhere else under Nazi occupation.

My father rescued people from those concentration camps. He told me is was gruesome and disturbing and he would not talk much about them.

 

[Grau]

My father rescued people from those concentration camps. He told me is was gruesome and disturbing and he would not talk much about them.

Your father, German civilians etc were supposed to be shocked.
That's why German POWs were ordered to collect dead bodies of German POWs, civilians etc to supplement the body piles and set up other fake and disturbing props:


“The Director of the Holocau$t - Khazar Expatriate Billy Wilder”

The Director of the Holocau$t - Khazar Expatriate Billy Wilder : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

The Director of the Holocaust - Khazar Expatriate Billy Wilder Almost all the films you've ever seen of the Holocaust were staged. Using Allied propaganda as...

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EXCERPT “Almost all the films you've ever seen of the Holocaust were staged. Using Allied propaganda as a rough script, directors from Hollywood were shipped to Germany and Poland to direct propaganda films for post-war use. One of the most notable of these was Billy Wilder, director of meny very well known films, such as "Some Like It Hot" with Marilyn Monroe." CONTINUED



"The Hollywood Directors Who Filmed the Liberation of Nazi Concentration Camps"
https://hyperallergic.com/426644/lamoth-filming-the-camps-the-holocaust/

EXCERPT "George Stevens, John Ford, and Samuel Fuller, best known for their work in Hollywood, all documented the Allied liberation at the end of the war.

But during this period of war, they were acting less as artists than as functionaries of US propaganda and information efforts, working for the US Armed Forces and Secret Services.CONTINUED

 

[Street Juice]

My father rescued people from those concentration camps. He told me is was gruesome and disturbing and he would not talk much about them.

All through history, old warriors never shut up about their glorious exploits. In the US, the WWII vets "wouldn't talk much" about their experiences during WWII.

They were ashamed....

...and should have been.

 

[Street Juice]

This is crazy talk spewed by someone who has read nothing but neo-Nazi/jihadist/radical Muslim propaganda on the Holocaust.

I actually did my own research, twinky. If all that retarded six million Jews nonsense were actually true, they wouldn't have throw people in prison for claiming it wasn't true.

How brain dead are you, anyway?

What other historical event is it illegal not to believe? Zero. None. Zilch.

Hey, everybody, I don't believe the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor in 1941... <crickets> see, fool? No one cares one way or the other who believes in historical events that actually happened. But, if you are trying to perpetrate a hoax, well, then, yeah, you might have to throw people in jail if they point out the absurdities in your little grift. Force people to buy the lie. Truth wins by persuasion.

Fucking grow up.

 

[Street Juice]

Do you know who David Irving is? He is a military historian who began acknowledging the Holocaust, then flirted with Holocaust denial for a time in the 1980s, but then, to his great credit, changed his mind after spending years reviewing German army and Nazi primary source materials.

What is it with you people and lying. I know exactly who David Irving is. He was thrown in prison for accurately describing WWII.

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Learn something, clown.