How did it all begin, this animosity towards Russia and communism in general?

[the watcher]

With a memorandum, written by a collaboration of newly minted "security" specialists and corporate spokesmen. Create a boogyman, put Reinhart Gehlen who was Hitler's spy chief and his crew to work to feed Congress with inflated threats and get more funding and power. Oh, keep it secret for 25 years and let the mockingbird press run with it. That's how our war economy was built, and it remains today. That is why voting doesn't matter as much as you might think. Milestones in the History of U.S. Foreign Relations - Office of the Historian

 

[westwall]

Communists murdered at least 125,000,000 people. I would say that's why it is hated.

 

[crossbody]

It began because the same liberals that Biden tricked into getting deadly covid vaccines followed him and his "bad Russia bad bad" narrative. It was all a lie.

 

[Litwin]

With a memorandum, written by a collaboration of newly minted "security" specialists and corporate spokesmen. Create a boogyman, put Reinhart Gehlen who was Hitler's spy chief and his crew to work to feed Congress with inflated threats and get more funding and power. Oh, keep it secret for 25 years and let the mockingbird press run with it. That's how our war economy was built, and it remains today. That is why voting doesn't matter as much as you might think. Milestones in the History of U.S. Foreign Relations - Office of the Historian

Soviet espionage in the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

As early as the 1920s, the Soviet Union, through its GRU, OGPU, NKVD, and KGB intelligence agencies, used Russian and foreign-born nationals (resident spies), as well as Communists of American origin, to perform espionage activities in the United States, forming various spy rings.[1][2][3] Particularly during the 1940s, some of these espionage networks had contact with various U.S. government agencies. These Soviet espionage networks illegally transmitted confidential information to Moscow, such as information on the development of the atomic bomb (see atomic spies).[1][2][3] Soviet spies also participated in propaganda and disinformation operations, known as active measures, and attempted to sabotage diplomatic relationships between the U.S. and its allies.[4][5]

Soviet expansion into Eastern Europe, 1945-1948 - The Cold War origins, 1941-1948 - AQA - GCSE History Revision - AQA - BBC Bitesize

Learn about and revise the origins of the Cold War between 1914 and 1948 with this BBC Bitesize GCSE History (AQA) study guide.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Litwin]

Communists murdered at least 125,000,000 people. I would say that's why it is hated.

+1

 

[sealybobo]

Communists murdered at least 125,000,000 people. I would say that's why it is hated.

I don't think communism had anything to do with those people dying. If Trump causes a nuclear war will future humans blame capitalism?

 

[theHawk]

I don't think communism had anything to do with those people dying. If Trump causes a nuclear war will future humans blame capitalism?

^^ LMAO

There we have it folks. Communism isn’t responsible for all the people they murdered under their own various regimes. The gulags, the killing fields, the intentional starvation. And to top it off Orange Man is actually worse.

 

[DonGlock26]

The Black Book of Communism​

The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression is a 1997[note 1] book by Stéphane Courtois, Andrzej Paczkowski, Nicolas Werth, Jean-Louis Margolin, and several other European academics[note 2] documenting a history of political repression by communist states, including genocides, extrajudicial executions, deportations, and deaths in labor camps and allegedly artificially created famines. The book was originally published in France as Le Livre noir du communisme: Crimes, terreur, répression by Éditions Robert Laffont. In the United States, it was published by Harvard University Press,[1]: 217  with a foreword by Martin Malia. The German edition, published by Piper Verlag, includes a chapter written by Joachim Gauck. The introduction was written by Courtois. Historian François Furet was originally slated to write the introduction, but he died before being able to do so.[2]: 51

The Black Book of Communism has been translated into numerous languages, has sold millions of copies, and is considered one of the most influential and controversial books written about the history of communism in the 20th century,[3]: 217  in particular the history of the Soviet Union and other state socialist regimes.[4] The work was praised by a broad range of popular-press publications and historians, while academic press and specialist reviews were more critical or mixed for some historical inaccuracies. The introduction by Courtois was especially criticized, including by three of the book's main contributors, for comparing communism to Nazism and giving a definitive number of "victims of communism", which critics have described as inflated. Werth's chapter, however, stood out as a positive.[5][6] The book's title was chosen to echo The Black Book of Soviet Jewry, a documentary record of Nazi atrocities in the Eastern Front, written by Ilya Ehrenburg and Vasily Grossman for the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee during World War II.[7]: xiii

The Black Book of Communism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

There is no doubt that communists murdered many millions of their own citizens from Russia, Vietnam, Cambodia, Africa, to China.

 

[Litwin]

With a memorandum, written by a collaboration of newly minted "security" specialists and corporate spokesmen. Create a boogyman, put Reinhart Gehlen who was Hitler's spy chief and his crew to work to feed Congress with inflated threats and get more funding and power. Oh, keep it secret for 25 years and let the mockingbird press run with it. That's how our war economy was built, and it remains today. That is why voting doesn't matter as much as you might think. Milestones in the History of U.S. Foreign Relations - Office of the Historian

you represent here the radical left, ok here is what your role - model K. Marx said about Muscovites /Moscow empire :

The origin of Moscovy lies in the bloody degradation of Mongolian slavery...
"semi-Asiatic" menace to "Europe" and "civilization ...
the Muscovites. They are not Slavs; they do not belong to the Indo-Germanic race at all, they are des intrus [intruders], who must be chased back across the Dnieper,

Karl Marx (1856–57/1873)​

Karl Marx about Moscow empire: " The origin of 🇷🇺Moscovy lies in the bloody degradation of Mongolian slavery" Do you agree with K. Marx ?

Do you agree with K. Marx ? The origin of 🇷🇺Moscovy lies in the bloody degradation of Mongolian slavery... 🇷🇺 "semi-Asiatic" menace to "Europe" and "civilization ... the 🇷🇺 Muscovites. They are not Slavs; they do not belong to the Indo-Germanic race at all, they are des intrus [intruders]...

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Communists murdered at least 125,000,000 people. I would say that's why it is hated.

I don't think communism had anything to do with those people dying.

SO you are saying that the Moscow violent gang in the history (Bolsheviki ) was not a commie one ?

 

[Litwin]

There is no doubt that communists murdered many millions of their own citizens from Russia, Vietnam, Cambodia, Africa, to China.

Cuba , Columbia etc.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I don't think communism had anything to do with those people dying. If Trump causes a nuclear war will future humans blame capitalism?

 

[Votto]

I don't think communism had anything to do with those people dying. If Trump causes a nuclear war will future humans blame capitalism?

Ok, did the 6 million Hitler murdered have anything to do with Nazism then?

Of course, you say.

What then is the difference between Nazism and communism? It was that Hitler allowed corporations to remain private while basically controlling their every move. It was a superior model to Stalin trying to run industry along with his bureaucratic buffoons who did not even know how to run government that effectively.

What is most concerning to me is, Marxism had murdered hundreds of millions more than Nazism, simply because Stalin sided with the winning side against Hitler. Now today Marxism is still hip to varying degrees but not Nazism when it should be hated equally, if not more.

For example, BLM was founded by people who declared themselves Marxists. Did they even know that Marxism murdered hundreds of millions more than Nazism, or the fact that Karl Marx himself was a racist? They essentially bought into an ideology grounded in systemic racism, but the fools on the Left will continue to erect Karl Marx statues while tearing down statues of Lincoln who freed the slaves as they call him a racist.

 

[Votto]

Communists murdered at least 125,000,000 people. I would say that's why it is hated.

Progressivism has murdered over 60 million after Roe.

Somehow that is Ok, isn't it.

Then again, Progressives look at Marxism as their model.

 

[the watcher]

SO you are saying that the Moscow violent gang in the history (Bolsheviki ) was not a commie one ?

It's good to know how you got to the party whether you stay or not. There are bad people in the world, but we must pick our enemies on real threats, not they bad we good derivations. How many people have been killed by christians fighting Muslims, cartels fighting everyone? Too much hypocrisy and conflicts of interest in the way we perceive things.

 

[DonGlock26]

Cuba , Columbia etc.

Really, too many to list.

 

[DonGlock26]

How many people have been killed by christians fighting Muslims,

In resisting Muslim invasions?

 

[Votto]

It's good to know how you got to the party whether you stay or not. There are bad people in the world, but we must pick our enemies on real threats, not they bad we good derivations. How many people have been killed by christians fighting Muslims, cartels fighting everyone? Too much hypocrisy and conflicts of interest in the way we perceive things.

To better illustrate the problem with totalitarian regimes like the former USSR, read this

Lysenkoism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So, this guy Lysenko comes up with these alternative theories to grow crops, only, they are all wrong. But he adds to them the notion that Western agriculture had been corrupted and was wrong. Because of that, Stalin latched onto his theories and forced everyone to live by them. But since they did not work, it caused hundreds of millions to starve to death. Keep in mind this continued for a good 30 plus years. Stalin was Ok with having those people die because of Lysenkoism so long as he could use it as propaganda against the West.

And with a similar pseudo science of Climate change, you see the same thing emerging as farmers across the world are protesting Left wing governments because they are being told they can't grow as many crops because those crops require fertilizer, which emits carbon. Meanwhile, the UN said that about a billion people will starve to death in the world, even if they continued to grow as many crops, which they will be forbidden to do.

‘We have reached the end of our rope.’ Why farmers around the world are protesting

From quiet fields to busy city streets, farmers around the world have launched protests in recent weeks, demanding relief from what they say is a crisis driven by climate change policies, red tape and crop prices. Ali Rogin reports.

www.pbs.org

 

[sparky]

the MIC was born via boogeymen after WW2

the only dif in this millennium is, they're creating them

~S~

 

[the watcher]

In resisting Muslim invasions?

resisting other religions, and punishing the other nonbelievers.

 

[Votto]

resisting other religions, and punishing the other nonbelievers.

Islam is an interesting phenomenon. On the one hand, it is a religion and the Left hates most religions because the Left wants to create a cult and does not want the competition with the religion they created. On the other hand, Islamic theology demands that politics and religion remain one. And as we saw with the abuses of the Catholic church embracing theocracy back in the day, with their Inquisitions and persecution of the Jews, and Crusades, etc. it turned out to not be such a good idea. If the Left can somehow embrace Islam and Islam embrace the Left in some form or fashion, it would automatically get millions to jump aboard the Left-wing train to totalitarian utopia.

Hitler saw what I am saying as well

Book Review: ‘Atatürk in the Nazi Imagination’ by Stefan Ihrig and ‘Islam and Nazi Germany’s War’ by David Motadel

Dominic Green reviews “Atatürk in the Nazi Imagination,” by Stefan Ihrig, and “Islam and Nazi Germany’s War,” by David Motadel.

www.wsj.com

‘It’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion,” Hitler complained to his pet architect Albert Speer. “Why did it have to be Christianity, with its meekness and flabbiness?” Islam was a Männerreligion—a “religion of men”—and hygienic too. The “soldiers of Islam” received a warrior’s heaven, “a real earthly paradise” with “houris” and “wine flowing.” This, Hitler argued, was much more suited to the “Germanic temperament” than the “Jewish filth and priestly twaddle” of Christianity.

He even had Muslim divisions in the SS to kill Jews.