Zone1 Does Satan work for Jesus?

[buttercup]

 

[sparky]

You haven't read very much about Edgar Cayce yet have you?

Read them all 1/2 century ago Den

~S~

 

[sparky]

the concept of 'satan' was sold to you for terrestrial gains , which had little to do with reality in the physical plane other than greed....

~S~

 

[DennisPTate]

Read them all 1/2 century ago Den

~S~

Awesome! Only thirty years ago for me.

 

[DennisPTate]

Wow!!!!!!

Impressive!

 

[sparky]

Awesome! Only thirty years ago for me.

yes well, he took everything we bow & pray to toward levels which betray empirical religion Den......~S~

 

[DennisPTate]

the concept of 'satan' was sold to you for terrestrial gains , which had little to do with reality in the physical plane other than greed....

~S~

That is an interesting way of looking at the topic of a "Satan."

14. What is ego?​

Ego is that thing that helps us learn what LOVE is by showing us what it is not. All things on Earth must come to a place of balance. All things must have a parallel. This is how we are each caused to grow spiritually. Just as a face (due to gravity) may wrinkle with time, so does a soul become weighed down with ego. Ego is always LOVE’S opposite. Love raises vibration and ego lowers it. Ego is a mental essence that each of us is made to endure for as long as we walk the planet. Ego is that thing that tells us in our mind, “No you can’t do that … because you’re not talented, thin, good-looking, wealthy, intelligent, young, strong, interesting or intuitive ENOUGH!” This is the voice of the liar. The liar is the voice of ego. Let me put it this way: wherever there is separation, condemnation, self-doubt, lack-mentality, bitterness, hostility or segregation … you can best be sure ego is not far behind.

Ego wants to keep you earthbound and heavenless for as long as it can. It is an essence that has been sent here to learn just as you have. However, it has a duty to challenge each of us and cause us to learn as it learns for itself. There is nothing to fear about the ego. It is just a fragile, spoiled child that screams and rants until it gets what it wants. And like any child, if you ignore it during its temper flare long enough, sooner or later it will get the message that those kinds of methods are not productive and will not yield positive results.
[Christian Andreason]

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[DennisPTate]

yes well, he took everything we bow & pray to toward levels which betray empirical religion Den......~S~

Yes he did, and about ninety five percent of the people who came to him with diseases that could not be cured by medical technology at the time that he lived, were healed. The five percent who were not healed, refused to do what he told them to do.

 

[sparky]

Yes he did, and about ninety five percent of the people who came to him with diseases that could not be cured by medical technology at the time that he lived, were healed. The five percent who were not healed, refused to do what he told them to do.

Methinks it would be prudent to step back and consider all the players and movers Den

~S~

 

[sparky]

I don't mean that unkindly Den.......~S~

 

[DennisPTate]

Methinks it would be prudent to step back and consider all the players and movers Den

~S~

Little by little, piece of the puzzle by piece of the puzzle, the whole thing is becoming more and more clear.

The wealthiest of the wealthy, who have hired magicians, astrologers and "wise guys" to manage the world for them, believe that all eight billion of us are like sheep and that they are Apex Predators, but they will be disappointed to find out when they die, [or have a near death experience], that the wealthiest of the wealthy, were actually the "Teacher Subjects" in a massive series of reality films that includes each and every one of our lives, all put together.

The wealthiest of the wealthy should have listened to this famous sentence.

"Gain the whole world and lose your soul" is a biblical warning (found in Matthew 16:26 and Mark 8:36) meaning that accumulating wealth, fame, or power (the "whole world") is ultimately worthless if you sacrifice your inner self, moral integrity, or spiritual life (your "soul") in the pursuit, highlighting that eternal spiritual well-being surpasses any worldly achievement. It questions the value of external success when it comes at the cost of one's true self, essence, or eternal salvation, suggesting that the price paid is too high for temporary gains"

Matthew 16:26 (ESV) states: "For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what shall a man give in return for his soul?"

Zone1 Thread 'Have potentially effective treatments for cancer been suppressed?'

Dec 21, 2025

Pretty powerful evidence exists that perhaps potentially effective treatments for cancer have been suppressed.

You will know what I mean if you will take a listen to the following documentary.

In a way this may be some of the most astonishingly good news that has ever been given to us mere humans.

In 2026 the truth may perhaps come out through aspiring film producers all over the world?






Burzynski: Cancer is Serious Business

• DennisPTate
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The Milgram Experiment helps to explain the past two centuries of human history amazingly well, [perhaps even the past five millennia].

Conducted by Stanley Milgram at Yale University in 1961–1962, this controversial social psychology study investigated obedience to authority. Participants were instructed to deliver increasingly severe electric shocks (up to 450 volts) to a "learner" (an actor) for wrong answers, revealing that 65% of participants fully obeyed, delivering the maximum shock despite the learner's distress.

Key Aspects of the Milgram Experiment:

• Objective: To understand how ordinary people could commit immoral acts, inspired by the Nazi war crimes trials, particularly Adolf Eichmann.
• Methodology:A "teacher" (participant) was instructed by an "experimenter" in a lab coat to punish a "learner" (actor) in another room with electric shocks for incorrect answers
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• • The "Shocks": The shocks were fake. The learner protested, banged on the wall, and eventually became silent, but the teacher was urged to continue with prods like "The experiment requires that you continue".
  • Findings: 65% of participants went to the maximum 450 volts. While many participants showed extreme tension and distress, they continued to obey.
  • Ethical Concerns: The study was heavily criticized for deceiving participants and causing severe, immediate psychological stress.
  • Conclusion: The findings suggest that situational pressures, specifically obedience to authority figures, can overpower individual moral conscience and lead to destructive behavior.

 

[DennisPTate]

I don't mean that unkindly Den.......~S~

And I did not take it as an insult.....
I have heard of a predicted "Great Wealth Transfer from the Wicked to the Righteous", that to at least some degree corresponds with the spoiling of Egypt at the time of Moses.

When the wealthiest eight thousand and five hundred realize that they are being played with and experimented on by Covering Cherub Helel, [known to Christians as Lucifer Satan], many of them will awaken and their off the scale great wealth will become very hot in their hands and pockets.

Once the new name for Satan of "Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan" catches on and the wealthiest of the wealthy begin to wake up and realize that although there is some truth to the idea of "reincarnation," Satan does not have the power to send a human spirit or soul into a future person, [or if he once did then that power will soon be taken away from him].

 

[MarathonMike]

My hazy recollection about Satan is he was one of the angels sent to Earth to help humans. If I remember correctly, he gave humans forbidden knowledge and was thus cast into Hell by God.

Does he work "for" Jesus? Not directly it seems, but Satan and Hell provide a very convincing fear factor if you are wanting to draw people to your religion.

 

[DennisPTate]

My hazy recollection about Satan is he was one of the angels sent to Earth to help humans. If I remember correctly, he gave humans forbidden knowledge and was thus cast into Hell by God.

Does he work "for" Jesus? Not directly it seems, but Satan and Hell provide a very convincing fear factor if you are wanting to draw people to your religion.

Near death experiencers are testifying to having been shown some amazing details on the topic of Satan.

[Christian Andreason]

b. What about the devil?​

If you understand the ego, you will understand the concept of the devil. Satanic frequency is the LOW-RANGE frequency that surrounds us in our collective thinking. It is the opposite of the HIGH, INCOMPREHENSIBLE LOVING frequency of God. Please hear me out on something…be careful of the music you listen to, the movies or TV you watch, the gossip or negative speaking you participate in. All these things LOWER the soul’s vibration. Lower vibration brings depression, disillusionment, disease and despair. The lower our soul’s vibration falls, the more these dark things come upon us. Once you fall into LOWER vibration, immediately seek to amend it with LOVING, HIGHER VIBRATIONAL THOUGHT. It is like anything else, the more you put into something, that is what the end result will be.

There is a place called “the Death Shadowed Valley,” where some souls may choose to go to if they feel too afraid, guilty or shameful to approach heaven or God. This is an in-between place or dimension that separates souls from this world and the next. …And as I have discussed before … being caught in this type of situation is a very difficult process to endure and can cause problems for both the living and the dead. However each of us has the ability to call out to God or to Christ … and immediately … we will be taken home to heaven. Or we (the living) can pray and call out to God to send his angels to come and take others home. It is important for us to understand that we each send ourselves to the places our soul believes it most belongs. We do that now here on planet Earth. Those stuck in addiction, lust, bitterness and hate — these are the ones truly in hell. But the moment we choose love, we can get ourselves out. God never sends us anywhere we do not wish to stay. We have totally misunderstood the concept of hell on this planet.

I do know of a place in the deep regions of the Realm where I saw great caverns of electrical blue fire. However, I understood that this place was for the purpose of loving purification. God would never send his precious creatures to a place to be burned or harmed. It is completely contrary to our Creator’s nature.

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[MarathonMike]

Near death experiencers are testifying to having been shown some amazing details on the topic of Satan.

But aren't NDEs closely aligned with the reigning religious beliefs of the person's culture? Put another way, does a Hindu NDE see visions of Jesus? Does a Muslim NDE see Buddha?

 

[The Irish Ram]

There was a transfer of dominion in the Garden of Eden. That a 100% just God has to honor. Do you recall the meeting between Satan and Jesus in the desert? Satan could offer Jesus the things he did, because he was in control of those things.
The holocaust wasn't God's or Jesus' idea. That was Satan killing God's chosen people. And he is about to do it again.
But thankfully, Satan's reign has an expiration date. And when the Lion of Judah shows up for battle, Satan won't stand a chance. One doesn't work for the other. They are immortal enemies. Jesus has authority over Satan and all the rest of them. They will be judged at the White Throne Judgment, and escorted to the Lake of Fire that was prepared for them...

 

[The Irish Ram]

But aren't NDEs closely aligned with the reigning religious beliefs of the person's culture? Put another way, does a Hindu NDE see visions of Jesus? Does a Muslim NDE see Buddha?

Those are excellent questions...

 

[The Irish Ram]

Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, [Isa the Prophet to Muslims, Shalom be upon Him],

Dennis, Jesus is not a Muslim prophet. They have usurped the real role of Christ and relegated Him to a lesser position under Mohammad. Quite a demotion for the King.
God Himself is going to hook them in and war against them. Jesus is a Jew and will prevent His people from annihilation at the hands of the Muslims.
Jesus never said, "First to the Jew, then to the Greek and the Arab" He did not include Islam in His mission. Although all those who turn to Him, and repent, will be forgiven. And when He takes His throne, He will remove the enmity between Ishmael and Isaac.

 

[DennisPTate]

There was a transfer of dominion in the Garden of Eden. That a 100% just God has to honor. Do you recall the meeting between Satan and Jesus in the desert? Satan could offer Jesus the things he did, because he was in control of those things.
The holocaust wasn't God's or Jesus' idea. That was Satan killing God's chosen people. And he is about to do it again.
But thankfully, Satan's reign has an expiration date. And when the Lion of Judah shows up for battle, Satan won't stand a chance. One doesn't work for the other. They are immortal enemies. Jesus has authority over Satan and all the rest of them. They will be judged at the White Throne Judgment, and escorted to the Lake of Fire that was prepared for them...

What you write is true but it does seem as if Satan was allowed to humble God's own people, because God so hates Pride, Lust, Greed, Self -Righteousness, Slander, False Judgment and a host of other problems that we religious people tend to fall into that Satan seems to have had permission to destroy the "Tares" that were growing along side of the wheat.

Rick Joyner was given a visionary dream back in 1995 that I believe illustrates well how God's own Bride, The Church, opened herself up much as Eve our Grandmother, opened herself up to deception.

[Rick Joyner] :
"The Evil Army

I saw a demonic army so large that it stretched as far as I could see. It was separated into divisions, with each carrying a different banner. The foremost and most powerful divisions were Pride, Self righteousness, Respectability, Selfish Ambition, and Unrighteous Judgment, but the largest of all was Jealousy. The leader of this vast army was the Accuser of the Brethren himself. I knew that there were many more evil divisions beyond my scope of vision, but these were the vanguard of this terrible horde from hell that was now being released against the church.

The weapons carried by this horde had names on them: the swords were named Intimidation; the spears were named Treachery; and their arrows were named Accusations, Gossip, Slander and Faultfinding. Scouts and smaller companies of demons with such names as Rejection, Bitterness, Impatience, Un-forgiveness and Lust were sent in advance of this army to prepare for the main attack. I knew in my heart that the church had never faced anything like this before.

The main assignment of this army was to cause division. It was sent to attack every level of relationship-churches with each other, congregations with their pastors, husbands and wives, children and parents, and even children with each other. The scouts were sent to locate the openings in churches, families or individuals that rejection, bitterness, lust, etc., could exploit and make a larger breech for the divisions that were coming.

The most shocking part of this vision was that this horde was not riding on horses, but on Christians! Most of them were well-dressed, respectable, and had the appearance of being refined and educated. These were Christians who had opened themselves to the powers of darkness to such a degree that the enemy could use them and they would think that they were being used by God. The Accuser knows that a house divided cannot stand, and this army represented his ultimate attempt to bring such complete division to the church that she would completely fall from grace.​

The Prisoners"
[Rick Joyner, The Final Quest]

The Final Quest [English] Rick Joyner

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What has came out about Shawn Bolz is merely one recent example of this but I believe that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus is judging His own Temple First. Jesus is cleansing His Bride, Temple, Body and people.

Thread 'The Prophet Shawn Bolz controversy.'

Jan 29, 2026

I am of the belief that the probably psychological problem of "narcissism" that Prophet Shawn Bolz probably suffers from could be turned into an asset.

I am of the belief that President Donald J. Trump's issues and problems from the past have already been turned into an asset in his Isaiah 45, "Cyrus Mantle" so why not the very flawed "Prophet" Shawn Bolz?




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• DennisPTate
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[sparky]

Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan

quite the google adventure there Den.......~S~