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[Hafar1014]

Seven deadly sins - Wikipedia

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Evagrius's list was translated into the Latin of Western Christianity in many writings of John Cassian,<a href="Seven deadly sins - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a><a href="Seven deadly sins - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a> one of Evagrius’s students; the list thus became part of the Western tradition's spiritual pietas or Catholic devotions as follows:<a href="Seven deadly sins - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a>

1. Gula (gluttony)
2. Luxuria/Fornicatio (lust, fornication)
3. Avaritia (greed)
4. Tristitia (sorrow, despair, despondency)
5. Ira (wrath)
6. Acedia (sloth)
7. Vanagloria (vanity, vainglory)
8. Superbia (pride) <----------------------------------------

In the context of religion pride is used to suppress individual thought. They dont say excessive pride or self centered. They want servants who obey. The one who questions is made to feel shame

 

[Slyhunter]

How many times do you need to hear the answer, TN.

God didn't send a flood to kill the entire planet. The flood account was an allegorical account of an historical event that was so out of the ordinary and unusual that it was noteworthy enough to be passed down orally from generation to generation. And like the other historical events in the first eleven chapters of Genesis, it was embellished with moral truths to make it more memorable so that it was easier to remember and pass down.

The Biblee is man made, a collection of stories some real some ain't. I can live with that. Revelations says it's 100% truth though.

 

[TNHarley]

Humankind is generally understood not to be the only of God's intelligent creations.

That said, humankind was the only one of His creations to disobey Him, see the garden of Eden.

Because God is a God of love and not force, choice is the central factor of our existence.

Brings us to Jesus where we, individually, have to choose Him.

This is a very short and simplistic form of the answer, but hopefully satisfies what you wanted to know.

Why would he have made all those people if he knew what choice they were going to make?

 

[MarcATL]

Why would he have made all those people if he knew what choice they were going to make?

That's the thing about choice, isn't it?

Actually, to go deeper into this topic, it's believed that God is proving His love to the universe by showing how He treats even those who disobey Him.

Which is going back to humankind (all of us here on earth) not being the only created beings.

We're the only ones who disobeyed Him, but yet and still, He hasn't outright destroyed us, which He could have at the point of Adam, or even at the point of Noah (which was referred to earlier in this thread).

Hope this brings more clarity.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" We Be He She Why Awl Weighs Haw "

* Sensationalism Of Self Induced Paranoia *

There is no testimony only what you think it means when you cant even read the language. The Pentateuch is a Jewish work. There is no Devil in Judaism.. Consequently the belief in the devil doesnt come from the bible.
It comes from Zoroastrianism or dualism.
Feel free to believe in Satan but he isnt in the bible. Hes in your mind

New International Version
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.’

New Living Translation
And don’t let us yield to temptation, but rescue us from the evil one.

English Standard Version
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

Berean Standard Bible
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.’

Berean Literal Bible
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.'

King James Bible
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

New King James Version
And do not lead us into temptation, But deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.

New American Standard Bible
‘And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil.’

NASB 1995
And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.’

NASB 1977
‘And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil. [For Thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever. Amen.]’

Legacy Standard Bible
And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. [For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.’]

Amplified Bible
‘And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil. [For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.]’

Christian Standard Bible
And do not bring us into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
And do not bring us into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.

American Standard Version
And bring us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.

Contemporary English Version
Keep us from being tempted and protect us from evil.

English Revised Version
And bring us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Don't allow us to be tempted. Instead, rescue us from the evil one.

Good News Translation
Do not bring us to hard testing, but keep us safe from the Evil One.'

International Standard Version
And never bring us into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.'

NET Bible
And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.

New Heart English Bible
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.'

Webster's Bible Translation
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Weymouth New Testament
and bring us not into temptation, but rescue us from the Evil one.'
Majority Text Translations
Majority Standard Bible
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.’

World English Bible
Bring us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. For yours is the Kingdom, the power, and the glory forever. Amen.’
Literal Translations
Literal Standard Version
And may You not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from the evil [one], because Yours is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory—for all ages. Amen.

Berean Literal Bible
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.'

Young's Literal Translation
'And mayest Thou not lead us to temptation, but deliver us from the evil, because Thine is the reign, and the power, and the glory -- to the ages. Amen.

Smith's Literal Translation
And thou shouldst not lead us into temptation, but deliver thou us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever. Amen.


* Misconstrued As Luciferian Mythology *

. Zone1 - Should Prometheus Be Viewed As Villainous Or Valiant ? .

 

[Hafar1014]

" We Be He She Why Awl Weighs Haw "

* Sensationalism Of Self Induced Paranoia *

New International Version
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.’

New Living Translation
And don’t let us yield to temptation, but rescue us from the evil one.

English Standard Version
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

Berean Standard Bible
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.’

Berean Literal Bible
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.'

King James Bible
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

New King James Version
And do not lead us into temptation, But deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.

New American Standard Bible
‘And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil.’

NASB 1995
And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.’

NASB 1977
‘And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil. [For Thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever. Amen.]’

Legacy Standard Bible
And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. [For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.’]

Amplified Bible
‘And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil. [For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.]’

Christian Standard Bible
And do not bring us into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
And do not bring us into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.

American Standard Version
And bring us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.

Contemporary English Version
Keep us from being tempted and protect us from evil.

English Revised Version
And bring us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Don't allow us to be tempted. Instead, rescue us from the evil one.

Good News Translation
Do not bring us to hard testing, but keep us safe from the Evil One.'

International Standard Version
And never bring us into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.'

NET Bible
And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.

New Heart English Bible
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.'

Webster's Bible Translation
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Weymouth New Testament
and bring us not into temptation, but rescue us from the Evil one.'
Majority Text Translations
Majority Standard Bible
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.’

World English Bible
Bring us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. For yours is the Kingdom, the power, and the glory forever. Amen.’
Literal Translations
Literal Standard Version
And may You not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from the evil [one], because Yours is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory—for all ages. Amen.

Berean Literal Bible
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.'

Young's Literal Translation
'And mayest Thou not lead us to temptation, but deliver us from the evil, because Thine is the reign, and the power, and the glory -- to the ages. Amen.

Smith's Literal Translation
And thou shouldst not lead us into temptation, but deliver thou us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever. Amen.


* Misconstrued As Luciferian Mythology *

. Zone1 - Should Prometheus Be Viewed As Villainous Or Valiant ? .

Nowhere the original

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Legal Positivism Of Normative Perspectives "

* Existentialism Beyond Presumptive Precedence For Public Policy *

Nowhere the original

The gospel is based in antinomianism , though many adherents invoke nomianism as do heretics .

. Antinomianism - Wikipedia .

* Limiting Scopes Of Sectarian Supremacy In Nomian Genetic Religions *

. End of Debate Over Whether To Reconcile .

. Zone1 - Eponymous Nomian Patriarch Genetic Religions Of Torahnism And Qurayshism : Isaac Versus Ishmael Sacrifice Circumcision Option .

 

[Slyhunter]

That's the thing about choice, isn't it?

Actually, to go deeper into this topic, it's believed that God is proving His love to the universe by showing how He treats even those who disobey Him.

Which is going back to humankind (all of us here on earth) not being the only created beings.

We're the only ones who disobeyed Him, but yet and still, He hasn't outright destroyed us, which He could have at the point of Adam, or even at the point of Noah (which was referred to earlier in this thread).

Hope this brings more clarity.

Proving to whom?

 

[MarcATL]

Proving to whom?

The rest of the universe, aka the other created beings.

And to us, here on earth, BTW.

 

[Slyhunter]

The rest of the universe, aka the other created beings.

And to us, here on earth, BTW.

I would love you to be more explanatory there.

 

[MarcATL]

I would love you to be more explanatory there.

Going by those we know, the angels, they are also created beings.

He's proving to them his love.

We get this meeting of others in the universe in Job 1, specifically verse 6

Bible Gateway passage: Job 1:6-12 - King James Version

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. And the LORD said...

www.biblegateway.com

 

[Slyhunter]

Going by those we know, the angels, they are also created beings.

He's proving to them his love.

We get this meeting of others in the universe in Job 1, specifically verse 6

Bible Gateway passage: Job 1:6-12 - King James Version

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. And the LORD said...

www.biblegateway.com

I like arguing with people who uses logic and common sense.

 

[TNHarley]

That's the thing about choice, isn't it?

But he should have known what they chose already.

Actually, to go deeper into this topic, it's believed that God is proving His love to the universe by showing how He treats even those who disobey Him.

Yes, I have heard hell is a very nice place. Lolz

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Apex Predator Pets "

* All Ways Alleging A Male *

Going by those we know, the angels, they are also created beings.
He's proving to them his love.
We get this meeting of others in the universe in Job 1, specifically verse 6

Bible Gateway passage: Job 1:6-12 - King James Version

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. And the LORD said...

www.biblegateway.com

What makes you think angels are not allusions to extra terrestrials as is proposed in chariots of the gods ?

Which proof are you able to offer to prove that goad is male as nature includes different forms of sex codons ?

 

[norwegen]

So god sent jesus (himself) to save us from himself. He did that so he could forgive sins. Atonement.
Why didnt he do that, instead of the flood? Why did he kill the entire planet and almost all the animals, when he could have just sent jesus earlier? Did the omniscient one just not think of jesus yet? Or is he just a freaking psychopath?
This is just another pondering that leaves me in the "WTF" category.

They're all do-overs. They're all new creations, or new heaven and earths. Adam and Eve, Noah's flood, Assyrian captivity, Babylonian captivity, and finally judgement on Judea, the final judgement.

Their god, God, was a god of second chances. And third chances, and fourth chances . . .

 

[Slyhunter]

They're all do-overs. They're all new creations, or new heaven and earths. Adam and Eve, Noah's flood, Assyrian captivity, Babylonian captivity, and finally judgement on Judea, the final judgement.

Their god, God, was a god of second chances. And third chances, and fourth chances . . .

And suddenly he stopped and for over 2,000 years we have neither heard him or seen him chastise us and whatnot. Now we are supposed to believe because a book written over 2,000 years ago told us to.

 

[TNHarley]

And suddenly he stopped and for over 2,000 years we have neither heard him or seen him chastise us and whatnot. Now we are supposed to believe because a book written over 2,000 years ago told us to.

He could just show himself to the world and end all doubt but alas.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Additional Anecdotes Of Alternative Perspectives "

* Not Mu Sa Knots Of Mosaic Law *

Going by those we know, the angels, they are also created beings.
He's proving to them his love.
We get this meeting of others in the universe in Job 1, specifically verse 6

. Google Search .
No, the Book of Job is not in the Torah (the first five books of the Bible: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy) but is a separate book in the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) in the Ketuvim (Writings) section, dealing with profound questions of suffering and divine justice, often seen as a wisdom literature classic.

. Google Search .
No, the Book of Zechariah is not in the Torah; the Torah (or Pentateuch) consists of the first five books of the Bible (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy). Zechariah is a book of the Minor Prophets, found in the Prophets section (Nevi'im) of the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) and the Christian Old Testament.

 

[norwegen]

And suddenly he stopped and for over 2,000 years we have neither heard him or seen him chastise us and whatnot. Now we are supposed to believe because a book written over 2,000 years ago told us to.

It's right there in their Jewish text. The final judgement. It's what they believed. Argue with them.

Good luck, though. They're dead.

Oh, BTW, they also believed the voice of God would be through human beings.

 

[norwegen]

He could just show himself to the world and end all doubt but alas.

You trying to fit a square peg through a round hole?

Brilliant.