Zone1 A Woke Pope?

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Is loving one's neighbor as one loves himself conservative or liberal?

Is loving one's neighbor as one loves himself conservative or liberal?

Neither. Both should love their neighbor -- BUT it does not require a nation to ignore its laws, security, or the welfare of its own citizens. Love is not the same as unrestricted access.

 

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Neither. Both should love their neighbor --

And yet you implied liberalism is inconsistent with Christianity. I don't believe it is just as I don't believe conservativism is inconsistent with Christianity. What is inconsistent with Christianity is the demonization of those that disagree with us.

BUT it does not require a nation to ignore its laws, security, or the welfare of its own citizens. Love is not the same as unrestricted access.

I never implied otherwise.

 

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Pope Benedict was a great Pope.

 

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And yet you implied liberalism is inconsistent with Christianity. I don't believe it is just as I don't believe conservativism is inconsistent with Christianity. What is inconsistent with Christianity is the demonization of those that disagree with us.

I never implied otherwise.

Things like abortion, which Kamala campaigned on, will never be compatible with Christianity. Not any Christianity that the bible supports.

 

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Things like abortion, which Kamala campaigned on, will never be compatible with Christianity. Not any Christianity that the bible supports.

I doubt all liberals are pro-abortion just like I doubt all conservatives are pro-life. Is there a tendency? Sure.

 

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I doubt all liberals are pro-abortion just like I doubt all conservatives are pro-life. Is there a tendency? Sure.

Maybe not...but pro choice was what Kamala campaigned on. So I figure it goes hand in hand.
Imagine running on something that you have no shot of changing, she must feel the voting Liberals (who vote specifically for that) are idiots.

 

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Maybe not...but pro choice was what Kamala campaigned on. So I figure it goes hand in hand.
Imagine running on something that you have no shot of changing, she must feel the voting Liberals (who vote specifically for that) are idiots.

Happens all the time. It's how they rile up the base. Both parties do it.

 

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Happens all the time. It's how they rile up the base. Both parties do it.

True on some things...at least the things Trump campaigned on he is actually doing. Most of em anyway. Some will take some time...

 

[Zincwarrior]

Still waiting for someone to say how the Pope is 'woke.'

 

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True on some things...at least the things Trump campaigned on he is actually doing. Most of em anyway. Some will take some time...

So you liked the tariffs? You liked attacking Iran?

 

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He's ruined the Catholic Church already. Isn't that enough for you?

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Never.

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I looked into this a little further, you may be right at the Priest level.
I would think the higher you get up the chain, the more support you will see for the Pope.
Honestly...outside of the war...so many things the Catholic church supports are the same exact things that Trump admin supports.
Pro Life (anti abortion) , Pro 2 sexes only, belief in God.
I am not sure how Liberals are in a Catholic church...Christianity is different than a lot of Liberal beliefs, if you are following the Bible.

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It's kind of heartbreaking to see the priests and bishops who cannot speak honestly because of the tyranny -- the numbers of priests and bishops who have been canceled because of their beliefs is astounding. We just need to trust them.

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So you liked the tariffs? You liked attacking Iran?

I am OK on the Tariffs, they generate income for the US helps control other countries from doing things that would hurt the US and protects domestic jobs.
Iran is a terrorist country that killed 30,000 of its people for protesting. Every US president for the last 20 years has said they are the biggest threat to the US...so I am not feeling bad about a terrorist country getting attacked, no. Others talked abut it, Trump did it.

 

[JoeB131]

I am OK on the Tariffs, they generate income for the US helps control other countries from doing things that would hurt the US and protects domestic jobs.

Except it doesn't do any of those things.

Iran is a terrorist country that killed 30,000 of its people for protesting.

According to who, the Zionists?

Every US president for the last 20 years has said they are the biggest threat to the US...so I am not feeling bad about a terrorist country getting attacked, no. Others talked abut it, Trump did it.

But every other president has had the good sense to not attack them.

 

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Except it doesn't do any of those things.



According to who, the Zionists?


But every other president has had the good sense to not attack them.

Little too much TDS happening here. Look it up brother.

 

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I am OK on the Tariffs, they generate income for the US helps control other countries from doing things that would hurt the US and protects domestic jobs.

You do realize the tariffs are paid by the American consumer, right? Tariffs are effectively a tax. Tariffs are not conservative values.

Iran is a terrorist country that killed 30,000 of its people for protesting. Every US president for the last 20 years has said they are the biggest threat to the US...so I am not feeling bad about a terrorist country getting attacked, no. Others talked abut it, Trump did it.

Iran is no threat to us. Iran is a threat to Israel. We are fighting Israel's war for them. The Israelis are laughing at us behind our backs.

 

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You do realize the tariffs are paid by the American consumer, right? Tariffs are effectively a tax. Tariffs are not conservative values.

Iran is no threat to us. Iran is a threat to Israel. We are fighting Israel's war for them. The Israelis are laughing at us behind our backs.

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47 years of Iran children learning to chant "Marg Bar Amrika" makes me think differently.

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47 years of Iran children learning to chant "Marg Bar Amrika" makes me think differently.

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That's what they want you to believe until it isn't. Isn't Trump making the argument that Iranians want America to overthrow their government? Both can't be true. Iranians can't hate us and want us to overthrow their government.

 

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That's what they want you to believe until it isn't. Isn't Trump making the argument that Iranians want America to overthrow their government? Both can't be true. Iranians can't hate us and want us to overthrow their government.

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I have known Persian people who grew up chanting this. And I expect they are all cheering President Trump for removing the evil regime that made them chant that phrase.

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I have known Persian people who grew up chanting this. And I expect they are all cheering President Trump for removing the evil regime that made them chant that phrase.

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If they were MADE to chant it then they don't necessarily believe it. As for their government, they are not a world power. They are not a threat to the US. They are a regional power that is a threat to Israel because Israel is in their region. Christian Zionists wanted this war and Israel is laughing at us behind our backs for fighting their war for them.