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You cannot serve two masters, but many "Christian" Trump supporters, in this particular instance Catholics, are being asked to choose: Do you stand with the guy who posts an image of himself as Jesus and attacks the Pope, or do you stand with the leader of your church?

Considering the track record of both the Catholic church and Trump, it seems best to avoid both.


ROME — After white smoke in the rafters of the Sistine Chapel signaled the rise of a new pope last May, President Donald Trump heralded the first U.S.-born leader of the Catholic Church by declaring the choice “a Great Honor for our Country.”

But now the two most influential Americans on the world stage — Trump, the leader of 340 million Americans, and Pope Leo XIV, with a global flock of 1.4 billion Catholics — are locked in a struggle for hearts and minds that harbors risks for both men.

After a pair of Trump posts Sunday on Truth Social — one, a rambling attack describing Leo as “terrible for Foreign Policy” and “WEAK on crime,” and the other, a Christ-like depiction of the president — Leo responded Monday onboard a papal flight to Algeria, telling journalists he had “no fear of the Trump administration.”

“I don’t want to get into a debate with him” the pope said before appearing to do just that by adding: “I don’t think that the message of the Gospel is meant to be abused in the way that some people are doing.” Later, reflecting on one of Trump’s missives on Truth Social, he said: “It’s ironic — the name of the site itself. Say no more.”

Veteran observers of the Catholic Church say an open war of words between a pope and a U.S. president is unprecedented.

“You have to jump back to the Middle Ages when kings and emperors were shouting against the pope in Rome and calling him false,” said Marco Politi, a longtime Vatican watcher and author. “There is just no other recent example like this.”

The Catholic Church’s moral authority has declined substantially after decades of clerical abuse scandals, and the weight of a pope’s words is not what it once was. But the risk of a direct confrontation with a sitting pope, observers say, is perhaps greater for Trump — who is taking on not only the first pope born in the United States, but a spiritual touchstone for an important, core group of Republican voters: conservative White Catholics. And he is doing so in a midterm congressional election year.


The pushback on Monday included conservative Catholic leaders such as Bishop Robert Barron, who serves on Trump’s Religious Liberty Commission, and called on the president to apologize to Leo. “The statements made by President Trump on Truth Social regarding the Pope were entirely inappropriate and disrespectful.”

WaPo
 
I would imagine that many Christians were not happy with that depiction. Nobody ever said Trump was without flaws. Biden sure wasn’t!

That said, the real question is: is this bad enough to make you sorry you voted for Trump, and wish you voted for the alternative?

Given that the alternative was Kamala, I doubt there are any Christians who regret they didn’t choose her.

IMHO.
 
You cannot serve two masters, but many "Christian" Trump supporters, in this particular instance Catholics, are being asked to choose: Do you stand with the guy who posts an image of himself as Jesus and attacks the Pope, or do you stand with the leader of your church?

Considering the track record of both the Catholic church and Trump, it seems best to avoid both.


ROME — After white smoke in the rafters of the Sistine Chapel signaled the rise of a new pope last May, President Donald Trump heralded the first U.S.-born leader of the Catholic Church by declaring the choice “a Great Honor for our Country.”

But now the two most influential Americans on the world stage — Trump, the leader of 340 million Americans, and Pope Leo XIV, with a global flock of 1.4 billion Catholics — are locked in a struggle for hearts and minds that harbors risks for both men.

After a pair of Trump posts Sunday on Truth Social — one, a rambling attack describing Leo as “terrible for Foreign Policy” and “WEAK on crime,” and the other, a Christ-like depiction of the president — Leo responded Monday onboard a papal flight to Algeria, telling journalists he had “no fear of the Trump administration.”

“I don’t want to get into a debate with him” the pope said before appearing to do just that by adding: “I don’t think that the message of the Gospel is meant to be abused in the way that some people are doing.” Later, reflecting on one of Trump’s missives on Truth Social, he said: “It’s ironic — the name of the site itself. Say no more.”

Veteran observers of the Catholic Church say an open war of words between a pope and a U.S. president is unprecedented.

“You have to jump back to the Middle Ages when kings and emperors were shouting against the pope in Rome and calling him false,” said Marco Politi, a longtime Vatican watcher and author. “There is just no other recent example like this.”

The Catholic Church’s moral authority has declined substantially after decades of clerical abuse scandals, and the weight of a pope’s words is not what it once was. But the risk of a direct confrontation with a sitting pope, observers say, is perhaps greater for Trump — who is taking on not only the first pope born in the United States, but a spiritual touchstone for an important, core group of Republican voters: conservative White Catholics. And he is doing so in a midterm congressional election year.


The pushback on Monday included conservative Catholic leaders such as Bishop Robert Barron, who serves on Trump’s Religious Liberty Commission, and called on the president to apologize to Leo. “The statements made by President Trump on Truth Social regarding the Pope were entirely inappropriate and disrespectful.”

WaPo
Like his predecessor Francis the talking Pope this new guy also has a big mouth and should just sit down and shut up. Run the church and keep your nose out of politics.
 
You cannot serve two masters, but many "Christian" Trump supporters, in this particular instance Catholics, are being asked to choose: Do you stand with the guy who posts an image of himself as Jesus and attacks the Pope, or do you stand with the leader of your church?

Considering the track record of both the Catholic church and Trump, it seems best to avoid both.


ROME — After white smoke in the rafters of the Sistine Chapel signaled the rise of a new pope last May, President Donald Trump heralded the first U.S.-born leader of the Catholic Church by declaring the choice “a Great Honor for our Country.”

But now the two most influential Americans on the world stage — Trump, the leader of 340 million Americans, and Pope Leo XIV, with a global flock of 1.4 billion Catholics — are locked in a struggle for hearts and minds that harbors risks for both men.

After a pair of Trump posts Sunday on Truth Social — one, a rambling attack describing Leo as “terrible for Foreign Policy” and “WEAK on crime,” and the other, a Christ-like depiction of the president — Leo responded Monday onboard a papal flight to Algeria, telling journalists he had “no fear of the Trump administration.”

“I don’t want to get into a debate with him” the pope said before appearing to do just that by adding: “I don’t think that the message of the Gospel is meant to be abused in the way that some people are doing.” Later, reflecting on one of Trump’s missives on Truth Social, he said: “It’s ironic — the name of the site itself. Say no more.”

Veteran observers of the Catholic Church say an open war of words between a pope and a U.S. president is unprecedented.

“You have to jump back to the Middle Ages when kings and emperors were shouting against the pope in Rome and calling him false,” said Marco Politi, a longtime Vatican watcher and author. “There is just no other recent example like this.”

The Catholic Church’s moral authority has declined substantially after decades of clerical abuse scandals, and the weight of a pope’s words is not what it once was. But the risk of a direct confrontation with a sitting pope, observers say, is perhaps greater for Trump — who is taking on not only the first pope born in the United States, but a spiritual touchstone for an important, core group of Republican voters: conservative White Catholics. And he is doing so in a midterm congressional election year.


The pushback on Monday included conservative Catholic leaders such as Bishop Robert Barron, who serves on Trump’s Religious Liberty Commission, and called on the president to apologize to Leo. “The statements made by President Trump on Truth Social regarding the Pope were entirely inappropriate and disrespectful.”

WaPo
The Pope apparently has a barroom mentality and a mouth to match. Quote: I'm not afraid of Trump????? Shouldn't he be saying I'm not intimidated by President Trump? He's taking the initiative when it comes to lack of respect.
 
Hate is a powerful tool for the Democrat Party.
Liberals are not the tolerant people who they claim to be.
Most of the Progressive Democrat Voters believe that morality and religion are oppression.
It looks like the Democrat Party is trying to gen-up some hatred for the Evangelicals in this up coming midterm election to get out the vote.
Watch for it on the internet and the left wing news outlets.
 
This Pope does not respect the sovereignty of the United States.
He is opposed to enforcing our border crossing laws and our immigration laws.
And he has a vested interest in the corrupt Democrat Party's open border demographic warfare political tactic because most of the illegal border crosses are Catholics.
 
I would imagine that many Christians were not happy with that depiction. Nobody ever said Trump was without flaws. Biden sure wasn’t!

That said, the real question is: is this bad enough to make you sorry you voted for Trump, and wish you voted for the alternative?

Given that the alternative was Kamala, I doubt there are any Christians who regret they didn’t choose her.

IMHO.

That's kind of a seperate argument, I mean, you can support Trump but also learn to think independently and judge his actions as good or bad for this country. Harris was a dreadful alternative, but her handlers would not have permitted what is happening now. Therefore, she would have likely avoided a war with Iran and a crackdown on civil liberties, as well as lowering the temperature both here and in the world. Trump raised it to boiling.

Even the things that needed fixing, such as immigration and a bloated federal government, he has alrewady completely fucked up.
 
That's kind of a seperate argument, I mean, you can support Trump but also learn to think independently and judge his actions as good or bad for this country. Harris was a dreadful alternative, but her handlers would not have permitted what is happening now. Therefore, she would have likely avoided a war with Iran and a crackdown on civil liberties, as well as lowering the temperature both here and in the world. Trump raised it to boiling.

Even the things that needed fixing, such as immigration and a bloated federal government, he has alrewady completely fucked up.
But he sealed the border to the illegal invasion and made sure the Islamic Terrorists of Iran are years away from nukes, neither of which Harris would have done.

Trump was and still is the best choice.
 
So he said today that the image that he posted himself was "me as a doctor", and then babbled something about the Red Cross that made no sense, as most of his statements do not. All of this was happening to reporters in some strange, staged appearance at the White House where he was accepting two bags of food from McDonalds from some delivery driver to highlight something about no taxes on tips.

This is where we're at today in America. A President who just started a war is presenting himself as Jesus, and then doing his typical lying about what he was doing.
 
You cannot serve two masters, but many "Christian" Trump supporters, in this particular instance Catholics, are being asked to choose: Do you stand with the guy who posts an image of himself as Jesus and attacks the Pope, or do you stand with the leader of your church?

Considering the track record of both the Catholic church and Trump, it seems best to avoid both.


ROME — After white smoke in the rafters of the Sistine Chapel signaled the rise of a new pope last May, President Donald Trump heralded the first U.S.-born leader of the Catholic Church by declaring the choice “a Great Honor for our Country.”

But now the two most influential Americans on the world stage — Trump, the leader of 340 million Americans, and Pope Leo XIV, with a global flock of 1.4 billion Catholics — are locked in a struggle for hearts and minds that harbors risks for both men.

After a pair of Trump posts Sunday on Truth Social — one, a rambling attack describing Leo as “terrible for Foreign Policy” and “WEAK on crime,” and the other, a Christ-like depiction of the president — Leo responded Monday onboard a papal flight to Algeria, telling journalists he had “no fear of the Trump administration.”

“I don’t want to get into a debate with him” the pope said before appearing to do just that by adding: “I don’t think that the message of the Gospel is meant to be abused in the way that some people are doing.” Later, reflecting on one of Trump’s missives on Truth Social, he said: “It’s ironic — the name of the site itself. Say no more.”

Veteran observers of the Catholic Church say an open war of words between a pope and a U.S. president is unprecedented.

“You have to jump back to the Middle Ages when kings and emperors were shouting against the pope in Rome and calling him false,” said Marco Politi, a longtime Vatican watcher and author. “There is just no other recent example like this.”

The Catholic Church’s moral authority has declined substantially after decades of clerical abuse scandals, and the weight of a pope’s words is not what it once was. But the risk of a direct confrontation with a sitting pope, observers say, is perhaps greater for Trump — who is taking on not only the first pope born in the United States, but a spiritual touchstone for an important, core group of Republican voters: conservative White Catholics. And he is doing so in a midterm congressional election year.


The pushback on Monday included conservative Catholic leaders such as Bishop Robert Barron, who serves on Trump’s Religious Liberty Commission, and called on the president to apologize to Leo. “The statements made by President Trump on Truth Social regarding the Pope were entirely inappropriate and disrespectful.”

WaPo
They turned their devotion over to The Pedophile long ago. The only influence Christianity has left on America's religious right is justifying hatred against gay people and immigrants.
 
You cannot serve two masters, but many "Christian" Trump supporters, in this particular instance Catholics, are being asked to choose: Do you stand with the guy who posts an image of himself as Jesus and attacks the Pope, or do you stand with the leader of your church?

Considering the track record of both the Catholic church and Trump, it seems best to avoid both.


ROME — After white smoke in the rafters of the Sistine Chapel signaled the rise of a new pope last May, President Donald Trump heralded the first U.S.-born leader of the Catholic Church by declaring the choice “a Great Honor for our Country.”

But now the two most influential Americans on the world stage — Trump, the leader of 340 million Americans, and Pope Leo XIV, with a global flock of 1.4 billion Catholics — are locked in a struggle for hearts and minds that harbors risks for both men.

After a pair of Trump posts Sunday on Truth Social — one, a rambling attack describing Leo as “terrible for Foreign Policy” and “WEAK on crime,” and the other, a Christ-like depiction of the president — Leo responded Monday onboard a papal flight to Algeria, telling journalists he had “no fear of the Trump administration.”

“I don’t want to get into a debate with him” the pope said before appearing to do just that by adding: “I don’t think that the message of the Gospel is meant to be abused in the way that some people are doing.” Later, reflecting on one of Trump’s missives on Truth Social, he said: “It’s ironic — the name of the site itself. Say no more.”

Veteran observers of the Catholic Church say an open war of words between a pope and a U.S. president is unprecedented.

“You have to jump back to the Middle Ages when kings and emperors were shouting against the pope in Rome and calling him false,” said Marco Politi, a longtime Vatican watcher and author. “There is just no other recent example like this.”

The Catholic Church’s moral authority has declined substantially after decades of clerical abuse scandals, and the weight of a pope’s words is not what it once was. But the risk of a direct confrontation with a sitting pope, observers say, is perhaps greater for Trump — who is taking on not only the first pope born in the United States, but a spiritual touchstone for an important, core group of Republican voters: conservative White Catholics. And he is doing so in a midterm congressional election year.


The pushback on Monday included conservative Catholic leaders such as Bishop Robert Barron, who serves on Trump’s Religious Liberty Commission, and called on the president to apologize to Leo. “The statements made by President Trump on Truth Social regarding the Pope were entirely inappropriate and disrespectful.”

WaPo
trump posting that depiction of him as Jesus shows everyone just how crazy trump is.
 
The Pope apparently has a barroom mentality and a mouth to match. Quote: I'm not afraid of Trump????? Shouldn't he be saying I'm not intimidated by President Trump? He's taking the initiative when it comes to lack of respect.
Respect has to be earned. As far as I am concerned trump has not earned that respect yet.
 
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The Pope apparently has a barroom mentality and a mouth to match. Quote: I'm not afraid of Trump????? Shouldn't he be saying I'm not intimidated by President Trump? He's taking the initiative when it comes to lack of respect.
Question, how can a Pope be 'soft on crime?' asking for a friend.
 
So he said today that the image that he posted himself was "me as a doctor", and then babbled something about the Red Cross that made no sense, as most of his statements do not. All of this was happening to reporters in some strange, staged appearance at the White House where he was accepting two bags of food from McDonalds from some delivery driver to highlight something about no taxes on tips.

This is where we're at today in America. A President who just started a war is presenting himself as Jesus, and then doing his typical lying about what he was doing.
Its the dementia but the Cult will immediately parrot it.
 
So he said today that the image that he posted himself was "me as a doctor", and then babbled something about the Red Cross that made no sense, as most of his statements do not. All of this was happening to reporters in some strange, staged appearance at the White House where he was accepting two bags of food from McDonalds from some delivery driver to highlight something about no taxes on tips.

This is where we're at today in America. A President who just started a war is presenting himself as Jesus, and then doing his typical lying about what he was doing.
Shrug....you don't buy McD's? I mean I know it's evil n shit but....hey
 
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