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That is the most important myth that needs deflating by the Republicans.I hope so but as a 70 year old on medicare I am concerned about his remark this morning about taking it away.; As a congressman he has the typical govt sweetheart deal for he and his family but wants to strip me of the only thing I have for medical care. I need details.
Obama is not ready to be President. He is years ahead of his time.Gentle Reminder - this thread is in the CDZ
The news was obviously officially 'leaked' yesterday evening (Friday) that Mitt Romney would announce his VP pick today. And that pick would be Paul Ryan of Wisconsin. In the last hour, Romney and Ryan made that official with a formal announcement.
So I would have lost a bet that it would be Marco Rubio. I did not think it would be Ryan. In truth, last night I was disappointed mostly because I really wanted Rubio.
But now that I've had some time to think about it, the only conclusion I can come up with is that Mitt Romeny is 100% serious about economic reform and he picked the most logical person to help do that. And, if they are elected, I am optimistic that they will make a difference.
So we have Mr. Businessman plus Mr. Economics as the official ticket. What do you think? A good one? Or not?
A terrible ticket politically. The pair may have made a good Secretary of Commerce and OBM Director but the game here is to get a plurality of voters in each state to pull a lever next to your name. That wasn't going to happen in the Governor's case before this and certainly won't happen after this.
Florida is obviously one of the most important states in every election. The GOP knew (or at least it should have) that their baggage from AZ and AL immigration policies would hurt them in Florida with the large Hispanic population. Now the GOP has alienated many (if not most) of the retiree population in the State. Both in FL and AZ.
One could contest that Clinton could have done better with Gore but at least Gore ran for President so HE thought he was ready.
One could contest that GWB could have done better than Cheney but there wasn't a whole lot of people with more West Wing experience than Cheney.
One could argue that Obama could have done better than Biden but Biden had solid credentials and strong foreign policy experience.
Ryan didn't run for President after 13 years in the House. It's hard to find any evidence that HE believes he is ready to be President. No objective evidence otherwise would make such a suggestion either.
One could argue that Romney could have done better than Ryan but there are plenty of ways he could have done worse. The ship sailed on Romney becoming President long ago so it's a matter destined for the trivia bin.
And from "where you sit" any choice would have given you the same response.
The most important thing to consider when choosing a VP is whether they are qualified to be president if need be. Isn't that the argument libs gave for destroying Sarah Palin?
From where I sit...Ryan is qualified.
again, I don't see how.
No executive experience.
No Business experience
No military experience
No foreign policy experience
I thought the biggest mistake McCain made in picking Palin was that his best argument against Obama was experience. And he put someone a heartbeat away who had very little.
Now, I do think that Ryan can more than hold his own in any debate or sit down. He actually comes off a lot more comfortable in his own skin than Romney does.
But... a heartbeat away? Not so sure about that.
From where I sit..this looks like a paniced choice meant to energize the base.
It looks like the Romney campaign is counting on voter suppression and Republicans coming out in droves for a win. He's done with trying to woe independents.
House Unanimously Rejects Pres. Obamas Budget Proposal
When you understand it was a political gimmick; the importance fades unless you don't buy the gimmick nature of it. In that case, you're just not that sophisticated when it comes to federal politics.
414-0 is a gimmick? Why did Obama's Dems go along?
I guess Obama showed them when he put forward another version of his budget?
Wait, he never did?
I get it, that's the gimmick, the President never submitted a budget.
Well, if that is the case, what was voted down?
Congress votes down every budget submitted by the President based on principle and constitutionality that Congress creates the budget. As Reagan said, "I signed every balanced budget you sent me."
You'd have to ask the members of Congress why they didn't go along.
That is the most important myth that needs deflating by the Republicans.I hope so but as a 70 year old on medicare I am concerned about his remark this morning about taking it away.; As a congressman he has the typical govt sweetheart deal for he and his family but wants to strip me of the only thing I have for medical care. I need details.
If you are 55 years old already, your Medicare DOES NOT CHANGE! Harry Reid lies when he says otherwise.
...and, if you haven't read the Reid /Pelosi/Obama health code...the death squads are coming unless we repeal that monstrosity.
That is the most important myth that needs deflating by the Republicans.I hope so but as a 70 year old on medicare I am concerned about his remark this morning about taking it away.; As a congressman he has the typical govt sweetheart deal for he and his family but wants to strip me of the only thing I have for medical care. I need details.
If you are 55 years old already, your Medicare DOES NOT CHANGE! Harry Reid lies when he says otherwise.
...and, if you haven't read the Reid /Pelosi/Obama health code...the death squads are coming unless we repeal that monstrosity.
And if you're 54 and younger, you're screwed. You talk about myths that need deflating and then bring up "death squads"? Please...
That is the most important myth that needs deflating by the Republicans.
If you are 55 years old already, your Medicare DOES NOT CHANGE! Harry Reid lies when he says otherwise.
...and, if you haven't read the Reid /Pelosi/Obama health code...the death squads are coming unless we repeal that monstrosity.
And if you're 54 and younger, you're screwed. You talk about myths that need deflating and then bring up "death squads"? Please...
If you have read the plan, you will see that the 54 and younger are phased into the new system. It isn't an abrupt all of a sudden change. You get some of the bad with the old system and some of the good with the new system. It should be embraced, not feared.
Gentle Reminder - this thread is in the CDZ
The news was obviously officially 'leaked' yesterday evening (Friday) that Mitt Romney would announce his VP pick today. And that pick would be Paul Ryan of Wisconsin. In the last hour, Romney and Ryan made that official with a formal announcement.
So I would have lost a bet that it would be Marco Rubio. I did not think it would be Ryan. In truth, last night I was disappointed mostly because I really wanted Rubio.
But now that I've had some time to think about it, the only conclusion I can come up with is that Mitt Romeny is 100% serious about economic reform and he picked the most logical person to help do that. And, if they are elected, I am optimistic that they will make a difference.
So we have Mr. Businessman plus Mr. Economics as the official ticket. What do you think? A good one? Or not?
Ryan is a dreadful choice.
As correctly noted in the other Ryan threads, he brings nothing to the ticket; indeed, Ryan drives away the independents and weak democrats Romney needs to win.
Actually I am encouraged because every one of our more leftists friends here are declaring Ryan a terrible choice, a disaster, a final nail in Romney's coffin, etc. etc. etc.
Usually that kind of reaction means that they see him as a real threat.
They were able to pretty well successfully destroy Sarah Palin who simply didn't have enough credentials accumulated to fight them off.
I rather expect Ryan is going to be more difficult to demonize, and will be better at setting the record straight and defending himself.
This is what the right wing said about Bachman, Cain, Perry, Gingrich, Santorum. You remember those guys right? The liberals were supposedly so "scared" of those guys and everytime you said that; they would implode. It was obvious to most it was going to happen. The sad thing is that the myopic supporters of these candidates couldn't see the innate shortcomings and just how bad they were at campaigning in Perry's case.
Ryan doesn't give me cause for pause in the least. I say this for the obvious medicare reform he wants to enact. The truth is that most seniors are happy with their medicare and happy that the President is closing the Part D "donut hole." In other ways, the qualification question will come up eventually. He didn't run for President so obviously he doesn't think he's ready to assume the office; has served 13 innocuous years as a congressman from the Wisconsin 1st district; not exactly Broadway or Sunset. His resume is thin and it points to the Governor's judgment that this guy is "ready on day one" to take over. If anyone were to say that they'd feel comfortable with a Ryan Presidency at this stage, you'll get a howling laugh from most of the public.
This was a terrible pick from the choices that Romney had. Choices that would have delivered the same demographic without the baggage that will sink the Governor's aspirations for winning Florida. Arizona may be back on the table.
The Governor could have done worse, however. Ryan is a superior pick to Sarah Palin.
My only regret is that this isn't 2016. That would ensure a 12th year of the Oval being center-left.
Actually I am encouraged because every one of our more leftists friends here are declaring Ryan a terrible choice, a disaster, a final nail in Romney's coffin, etc. etc. etc.
Usually that kind of reaction means that they see him as a real threat.
They were able to pretty well successfully destroy Sarah Palin who simply didn't have enough credentials accumulated to fight them off.
I rather expect Ryan is going to be more difficult to demonize, and will be better at setting the record straight and defending himself.
This is what the right wing said about Bachman, Cain, Perry, Gingrich, Santorum. You remember those guys right? The liberals were supposedly so "scared" of those guys and everytime you said that; they would implode. It was obvious to most it was going to happen. The sad thing is that the myopic supporters of these candidates couldn't see the innate shortcomings and just how bad they were at campaigning in Perry's case.
Ryan doesn't give me cause for pause in the least. I say this for the obvious medicare reform he wants to enact. The truth is that most seniors are happy with their medicare and happy that the President is closing the Part D "donut hole." In other ways, the qualification question will come up eventually. He didn't run for President so obviously he doesn't think he's ready to assume the office; has served 13 innocuous years as a congressman from the Wisconsin 1st district; not exactly Broadway or Sunset. His resume is thin and it points to the Governor's judgment that this guy is "ready on day one" to take over. If anyone were to say that they'd feel comfortable with a Ryan Presidency at this stage, you'll get a howling laugh from most of the public.
This was a terrible pick from the choices that Romney had. Choices that would have delivered the same demographic without the baggage that will sink the Governor's aspirations for winning Florida. Arizona may be back on the table.
The Governor could have done worse, however. Ryan is a superior pick to Sarah Palin.
My only regret is that this isn't 2016. That would ensure a 12th year of the Oval being center-left.
Bold blue above is hilarious when you consider Mr Obama's resume and all the liberals that voted for him.
And from "where you sit" any choice would have given you the same response.
The most important thing to consider when choosing a VP is whether they are qualified to be president if need be. Isn't that the argument libs gave for destroying Sarah Palin?
From where I sit...Ryan is qualified.
again, I don't see how.
No executive experience.
No Business experience
No military experience
No foreign policy experience
I thought the biggest mistake McCain made in picking Palin was that his best argument against Obama was experience. And he put someone a heartbeat away who had very little.
Now, I do think that Ryan can more than hold his own in any debate or sit down. He actually comes off a lot more comfortable in his own skin than Romney does.
But... a heartbeat away? Not so sure about that.
No executive experience.
No Business experience
No military experience
No foreign policy experience
All good reasons to vote against Obama in 2008.
All good reasons to vote against Obama in 2012.
Add no budget experience.
And from "where you sit" any choice would have given you the same response.
The most important thing to consider when choosing a VP is whether they are qualified to be president if need be. Isn't that the argument libs gave for destroying Sarah Palin?
From where I sit...Ryan is qualified.
again, I don't see how.
No executive experience.
No Business experience
No military experience
No foreign policy experience
I thought the biggest mistake McCain made in picking Palin was that his best argument against Obama was experience. And he put someone a heartbeat away who had very little.
Now, I do think that Ryan can more than hold his own in any debate or sit down. He actually comes off a lot more comfortable in his own skin than Romney does.
But... a heartbeat away? Not so sure about that.
So I guess You can't be supporting Obama either then.
One name that should be included in Ryan's recognition building is William Graham Sumner, the first Sociology Professor at Yale College and leading proponent of social Darwinism.
Robert Reich re: Ryan and Sumner:
"Ryans views are pure social Darwinism.
"As William Graham Sumner, the progenitor of social Darwinism in America, put it in the 1880s: 'Civilization has a simple choice.' Its either 'liberty, inequality, survival of the fittest' or 'not-liberty, equality, survival of the unfittest. The former carries society forward and favors all its best members; the latter carries society downwards and favors all its worst members.'
It's either more for the richest 1% of Americans, and all of those who hope to join them one day, or it's more for those doing 90% of the productive labor in this country.
A vote for Mitt, Paul, Joe, or Obama is a vote for the 1%.
Robert Reich (The Ryan Choice)
Sanction of the victim
The concept "sanction of the victim" is defined by Leonard Peikoff as "the willingness of the good to suffer at the hands of the evil, to accept the role of sacrificial victim for the 'sin' of creating values".[27] This concept may be original in the thinking of Rand: she holds that evil is a parasite on the good and can only exist if the good tolerates it. Atlas Shrugged can be seen as an answer to the question of what would happen if this sanction were revoked. When Atlas shrugs, relieving himself of the burden of carrying the world, he is revoking his sanction.
Throughout Atlas Shrugged, numerous characters admit there is something wrong with the world that they cannot identify; frequently, they are struggling with the idea of sanction of the victim. We first glimpse the concept when Hank Rearden feels he is duty-bound to support his family, despite their hostility towards him; later, the principle is stated explicitly by Dan Conway: "I suppose somebody's got to be sacrificed. If it turned out to be me, I have no right to complain." John Galt vows to stop the motor of the world by persuading the creators of the world to withhold their sanction: "Evil is impotent and has no power but that which we let it extort from us", and, "I saw that evil was impotent ... and the only weapon of its triumph was the willingness of the good to serve it".
In Rand's view, morality requires we do not sanction our own victimhood. She assigns virtue to the trait of rational self-interest. However, Rand contends moral selfishness does not mean a license to do whatever one pleases, guided by whims. It means the exacting discipline of defining and pursuing one's rational self-interest. A code of rational self-interest rejects every form of human sacrifice, whether of oneself to others or of others to oneself.
Atlas Shrugged - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A.K.A. Robert ReichDr. Floyd Ferris
Ferris is a biologist who works as "co-ordinator" at the State Science Institute. He uses his position there to deride reason and productive achievement, and publishes a book entitled Why Do You Think You Think? He clashes on several occasions with Hank Rearden, and twice attempts to blackmail Rearden into giving up Rearden Metal. He is also one of the group of looters who tries to get Rearden to agree to the Steel Unification Plan. Ferris hosts the demonstration of the Project X weapon, and is the creator of the Ferris Persuader, a torture machine. When John Galt is captured by the looters, Ferris uses the device on Galt, but it breaks down before extracting the information Ferris wants from Galt. Ferris represents the group which uses brute force on the heroes to achieve the ends of the looters. List of Atlas Shrugged characters - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ellsworth Toohey
British socialist Harold Laski was one of Rand's primary inspirations for the character of Ellsworth Toohey.
Ellsworth Monkton Toohey, who writes a popular art criticism column, is Roark's antagonist. Toohey is an unabashed collectivist and Rand's personification of evil (when speaking freely, he explicitly compares himself to Goethe's Mephisto, who tempted Faust to destruction). Toohey represents the stifling, escetic forces of Communism and Socialism. His biggest threat is the strength of the individual spirit enshrined in Howard Roark. He falsely styles himself as representative of the will of the masses.
Aiming at a society that shall be "an average drawn upon zeroes," he knows exactly why he corrupts Peter Keating, and explains his methods to the ruined young man in a passage that is a pyrotechnical display of the fascist mind at its best and its worst; the use of the ideal of altruism to destroy personal integrity, the use of humor and tolerance to destroy all standards, the use of sacrifice to enslave.[24]
Having no true genius, Toohey's mission is to destroy excellence and promote altruism as the ultimate social ideal. This is put forward in one of his most memorable quotes: "Don't set out to raze all shrines—you'll frighten men. Enshrine mediocrity, and the shrines are razed."
Rand used her memory of the British democratic socialist Harold Laski to help her imagine what he would do in a given situation. Lewis Mumford was also an initial inspiration.[25] The Fountainhead - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
