Glenn Beck: Firefighters Right to Let Home Burn

[Flopper]

This is a fucking tragedy I don't care what side of the isle your on. You don't sit idly by while a fellow human being is losing everything (including pets) and there is something you can do about it. That's just pathetic how could someone sleep at night after letting this happen and not even trying to stop it. Worry about settling up afterward. Charge them a fine or whatever. People are supposed to help people in emergency situations like this much like medical emergencies. Now if it started to become an issue afterthis where no one pays unless their house is burning then that would be a problem and but I don't think thats going to happen. This is crap. I'm seriously pissed off reading something like this in the news. Happening in America. Unbelievable.

I have not seen anything like this in years. When I was kid, I live outside of town. The city offered a contracts for fire fighting services to home owners within a few miles of city limits. I think most excepted it. I can remember a few fires, mostly brush fires, called in by people who did not have a contract. The fire dept. responded and billed them for the call. I think fire dept actually made quite a bit of money.

Aside from being inhumane, this is just plain stupid.

No it isn't ... it good business sense and Traditional Values.

I don't know if it's good business, but it sure isn't a tradition value in America to watch someone's house burn down when you have the means to fight the fire.

 

[JiggsCasey]

so much for sticking together as Americans, eh Glenn? only up until the point you pay your extra private tax, anyway.

 

[R.C. Christian]

The person who eventually puts a cap in Glenn Beck's fat head should be given a public service medal for silencing one of the most dangerous charlatans in the history of charlatans. There is so much damage that is done when the low IQ trash that follow this duplicitous drug addicted Kool Aid brewer actually begin to BELIEVE. Belief is a very damaging thing in the hands of the average American who shapes his worldview by commentators from Fox or CNN and then goes about his day regurgitating the obtuse ramblings of a maggot like Beck to other blue collar peasants who are, unfortunately, allowed to vote too.

 

[Douger]

This is a fucking tragedy I don't care what side of the isle your on. You don't sit idly by while a fellow human being is losing everything (including pets) and there is something you can do about it. That's just pathetic how could someone sleep at night after letting this happen and not even trying to stop it. Worry about settling up afterward. Charge them a fine or whatever. People are supposed to help people in emergency situations like this much like medical emergencies. Now if it started to become an issue afterthis where no one pays unless their house is burning then that would be a problem and but I don't think thats going to happen. This is crap. I'm seriously pissed off reading something like this in the news. Happening in America. Unbelievable.

I completely agree with you.

This really pisses me off and I consider myself to be a conservative.

I can't help but think, what if there had been a 6 month old child trapped in that house and those jackasses did not respond? The mayor should be run out of town on rails. He is an idiot. All this over $75 dollars? The mayor is a frigging idiot.

Immie

The brainwashed firefighters should be killed.

 

[bodecea]

Sigh...

Glen Beck did not say he deserved it, he simply pointed out that it is wrong to expect to get a service if you refuse to pay taxes that pay for that service. Funny how you don't have a problem with that concept under normal circumstances, or can I walk into a store and take whatever I want now?

Yeah so tell me why we bailed out wall street?

Ask Obama, he voted for it.

Yes...as we all know that was the deciding vote....

 

[bodecea]

I have not seen anything like this in years. When I was kid, I live outside of town. The city offered a contracts for fire fighting services to home owners within a few miles of city limits. I think most excepted it. I can remember a few fires, mostly brush fires, called in by people who did not have a contract. The fire dept. responded and billed them for the call. I think fire dept actually made quite a bit of money.

Aside from being inhumane, this is just plain stupid.

No it isn't ... it good business sense and Traditional Values.

I don't know if it's good business, but it sure isn't a tradition value in America to watch someone's house burn down when you have the means to fight the fire.

Hard to believe you when reading many of the comments by posters who are always toting Traditional Values. Just sayin'.

 

[Flopper]

No it isn't ... it good business sense and Traditional Values.

I don't know if it's good business, but it sure isn't a tradition value in America to watch someone's house burn down when you have the means to fight the fire.

Hard to believe you when reading many of the comments by posters who are always toting Traditional Values. Just sayin'.

Not sure what traditional values you are talking about?

 

[bodecea]

I don't know if it's good business, but it sure isn't a tradition value in America to watch someone's house burn down when you have the means to fight the fire.

Hard to believe you when reading many of the comments by posters who are always toting Traditional Values. Just sayin'.

Not sure what traditional values you are talking about?

Yes. Well, that's the thing, isn't it? Sometimes those who chant "Traditional values" don't seem to know themselves.

 

[rdean]

I don't know if it's good business, but it sure isn't a tradition value in America to watch someone's house burn down when you have the means to fight the fire.

Hard to believe you when reading many of the comments by posters who are always toting Traditional Values. Just sayin'.

Not sure what traditional values you are talking about?

Me neither.

Hmmm, who would know?

Let's ask:

The Muslims

The gays

The Hispanics

Feminists

Scientists

The poor

The middle class

The blacks

Maybe some of them might know?

 

[Immanuel]

This is a fucking tragedy I don't care what side of the isle your on. You don't sit idly by while a fellow human being is losing everything (including pets) and there is something you can do about it. That's just pathetic how could someone sleep at night after letting this happen and not even trying to stop it. Worry about settling up afterward. Charge them a fine or whatever. People are supposed to help people in emergency situations like this much like medical emergencies. Now if it started to become an issue afterthis where no one pays unless their house is burning then that would be a problem and but I don't think thats going to happen. This is crap. I'm seriously pissed off reading something like this in the news. Happening in America. Unbelievable.

I completely agree with you.

This really pisses me off and I consider myself to be a conservative.

I can't help but think, what if there had been a 6 month old child trapped in that house and those jackasses did not respond? The mayor should be run out of town on rails. He is an idiot. All this over $75 dollars? The mayor is a frigging idiot.

Immie

the mayor had nothing to do with it
there were no people trapped

you really should go back and actually read the story

I not only read the story, but I watched some of the news articles on it.

It was the mayor's (or maybe he had a different title) decision not to send the fire department. The fire department did not even leave the fire house until the neighbor's property was threatened and they did not know that no one's life was in danger.

Yes, the family should have paid the $75, but the fire department should have responded AND they should have at least attempted to save the property.

Like I said, they should run the mayor or whoever made that decision out of town on the rails, if not imprison him for a very long time.

Immie

 

[Cecilie1200]

This homeowner who did not pay his $75 fire insurance fee said in an interview that his son had a fire 3 years earlier & did not pay the fee but the fire chief made an exception & put his fire out anyway. Now instead of being grateful & paying their fees to this fire department this family again tried to slide by & not pay again. This may have been a factor in the fire chiefs judgment.

If there are actual statutes barring this action, it's also possible the fire chief got his ass reamed the first time around.

For most of my life I lived in a all volunteer fire district. I loved it. There were no outrageous taxes, unions, pension funds & ballot issues to raise taxes for these services. It simply worked great. Donations paid for the fire trucks & we all took turns & felt good about helping each other. We never let anyones house burn. It was always all hands battling the blaze until the job was done. Settling the bill came a couple of days later.

I'd be curious to know how this community came to the decision to do things this way, and what they actually thought was going to happen.

 

[Nosmo King]

I'm pretty sure no one thought this decision out very throughly.

 

[KissMy]

This homeowner who did not pay his $75 fire insurance fee said in an interview that his son had a fire 3 years earlier & did not pay the fee but the fire chief made an exception & put his fire out anyway. Now instead of being grateful & paying their fees to this fire department this family again tried to slide by & not pay again. This may have been a factor in the fire chiefs judgment.

If there are actual statutes barring this action, it's also possible the fire chief got his ass reamed the first time around.

This homeowner Gene Cranick said this is a different fire chief than the one who put Cranick's son's house fire out 3 years earlier after he did not pay his $75 fire bill. I wonder if that chief was fired for that?

The fire department should have billed his son on his fire the very expensive full $15K per fire rate that it cost to have a fire department. On average 1 in 200 houses burn annually. So $75 times 200 homes equals $15K which is the true per fire cost to maintain fire protection & fight fires. I would have put the fire out & then billed him $15,000. This would still send the same message to residence to pay their bills & would have been the responsible thing to do. The fire chief & local officials did not have good policy in place & used poor judgment. According to the fire victim they had allowed 3 other houses & a barn burn down before this happened to him. I guess those did not generate the media firestorm to help them see the errors of their ways & change their policy.

They could also print a donation amount on everyones fire protection bill to cover those who could not afford to pay. Where I used to live in a all volunteer fire district, we had a 4th of July fire department fish fry. People came & donated what was needed to cover those who could not pay their fire protection every year to make sure everyone had fire protection. There was always enough money.

 

[Againsheila]

I'm pretty sure no one thought this decision out very throughly.

Ditto.

What if you don't have the $75.00. And yes there are people who don't have it. Do you deserve to have your house burn down because you are on social security and have to account for every penny? Or because you lost your job and haven't found a new one?


Like I said, if I were the neighbor who's house the fire spread to, I would be suing the Fire Department AND the major for ALL damages done to my home because they didn't put out the fire before it got to my home. Suppose the fire started in the woods? Are they not going to put it out until it gets to someone's house? This is crazy.

 

[Jon]

By the standards of the liberals in this thread, if someone steals all of my belongings and I don't have insurance coverage, the insurance company should still pay me for my loss.

You guys are really fucking stupid, you know that?

 

[Ravi]

By the standards of the liberals in this thread, if someone steals all of my belongings and I don't have insurance coverage, the insurance company should still pay me for my loss.

You guys are really fucking stupid, you know that?

No, it's actually more like this: If firefighters can put out a fire and instead stand there doing nothing they are fucktards that should find other employment.

 

[Leweman]

By the standards of the liberals in this thread, if someone steals all of my belongings and I don't have insurance coverage, the insurance company should still pay me for my loss.

You guys are really fucking stupid, you know that?

Actually a more accurate equivalent would be if someone was stealing all your stuff and the police were standing there for hours watching them do it.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

A volunteer fire dept is normal for small communities that absolutely do not have a tax base to support a fire dept.
However, the volunteers can't fight the fire without equipment...equipment that cost money.
The $75 is to pay for that equipment.
If people didn't pay and they put the fire out anyway, then...wait for it...more people wouldn't pay and...wait again...they couldn't buy equipment and then there would BE no fire department to put anyones house out.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Yeah so tell me why we bailed out wall street?

Ask Obama, he voted for it.

Yes...as we all know that was the deciding vote....

I didn't vote for it, so me telling you to ask him about it is perfectly reasonable. But thanks for trying to make me look stupid.

 

[Jon]

By the standards of the liberals in this thread, if someone steals all of my belongings and I don't have insurance coverage, the insurance company should still pay me for my loss.

You guys are really fucking stupid, you know that?

Actually a more accurate equivalent would be if someone was stealing all your stuff and the police were standing there for hours watching them do it.

Incorrect. Police protection is covered by levied taxes on the public to provide services to all citizens, regardless of whether or not they pay said taxes. Fire protection, in many cases, is not covered by such taxes. In other words, I am entitled to police protection, and they are required to act if they see a crime taking place. Firefighters are not required to put out a fire for someone who did not pay their fees. I am also not entitled to insurance coverage for which I have not paid.