Are Atheists sinners?

[uscitizen]

Another thread brought up a thought. And yes I know that is dangerous, but anyway.
If one does not believe in god or gods rules can they be a sinner?
And yes I know they are by Christians definition but by their own views are they?

And many sins are variable and religion based not god/bible based.
For exa,m[l;e when I was 6 the church I grew up in thought going to movies was a sin, but by the time I was 18 it was not. 2 years after I left the church of course

 

[Immanuel]

Another thread brought up a thought. And yes I know that is dangerous, but anyway.
If one does not believe in god or gods rules can they be a sinner?
And yes I know they are by Christians definition but by their own views are they?

And many sins are variable and religion based not god/bible based.
For exa,m[l;e when I was 6 the church I grew up in thought going to movies was a sin, but by the time I was 18 it was not. 2 years after I left the church of course

Yes, they are sinners. We are all sinners.

Just because you don't recognize a law does not mean you can't or won't break it.

"Geez, officer, I didn't know the State of Virginia had outlawed fuzz busters. I'm just passing through." I... er... he still broke the law.

Immie

PS the I in there is really only a joke. I do not own a fuzz buster and I do know about the law.

 

[HUGGY]

Another thread brought up a thought. And yes I know that is dangerous, but anyway.
If one does not believe in god or gods rules can they be a sinner?
And yes I know they are by Christians definition but by their own views are they?

And many sins are variable and religion based not god/bible based.
For exa,m[l;e when I was 6 the church I grew up in thought going to movies was a sin, but by the time I was 18 it was not. 2 years after I left the church of course

Any god that makes it a sin to eat lobster is an asshole god and doesn't deserve recognition.

 

[Dr Gregg]

everybody is, since many "sins" are sins of thought. EVerybody covets somethings, everybody has normal thoughts of having sex with someone they find attractive. Sins of thought are completely stupid, it should be all in the actions, since many times we just have thoughts and not something we purposely do.

 

[uscitizen]

everybody is, since many "sins" are sins of thought. EVerybody covets somethings, everybody has normal thoughts of having sex with someone they find attractive. Sins of thought are completely stupid, it should be all in the actions, since many times we just have thoughts and not something we purposely do.

but if one does not believe in God or that "sins" have no divine punishment?

 

[amrchaos]

I have a question

What happens if you sin, then forget about it.

I call those forgotten sins, and everybody that has them will go to Dante's Barbecue and Grill eventually!!

 

[HUGGY]

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt0ipUCfdlU]YouTube - Rolling Stones - Sympathy for The Devil ( Live 1969 Altamont[/ame]

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What is sin?

 

[THE LIGHT]

YouTube - The Rolling Stones Monkey Man

YouTube - Rolling Stones - Sympathy for The Devil ( Live 1969 Altamont

YouTube - The Bridge (movie trailer) In Theatres October 27, 2006

What is sin?

Sin means to miss the mark. The mark being the law given to us by God. The law however, does not make us perfect, neither are we justified by it and no matter how hard we try on our own, we will always fall short.

 

[Foxfyre]

Another thread brought up a thought. And yes I know that is dangerous, but anyway.
If one does not believe in god or gods rules can they be a sinner?
And yes I know they are by Christians definition but by their own views are they?

And many sins are variable and religion based not god/bible based.
For exa,m[l;e when I was 6 the church I grew up in thought going to movies was a sin, but by the time I was 18 it was not. 2 years after I left the church of course

If you go by basic Christian concepts, then yes Atheists are sinners because all have sinned and have fall short. So Christians, Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus, and non-specific accordian players are all sinners too.

It gets stickier when you start identifying specific sins as opinions about that will vary from religion to religion and even between various sects within each religion.

My definition of sin is that which harms ourselves and/or others whether intentional, inadvertent, or unkowingly. And who among us has never done that?

 

[HUGGY]

Is knowledge sin? What happened to those guys that first claimed that the earth was not the center of our solar system or the universe?

 

[Gadawg73]

Another thread brought up a thought. And yes I know that is dangerous, but anyway.
If one does not believe in god or gods rules can they be a sinner?
And yes I know they are by Christians definition but by their own views are they?

And many sins are variable and religion based not god/bible based.
For exa,m[l;e when I was 6 the church I grew up in thought going to movies was a sin, but by the time I was 18 it was not. 2 years after I left the church of course

Any god that makes it a sin to eat lobster is an asshole god and doesn't deserve recognition.

Washing down grilled lobster tails in Negril Jamaica at sunset has to have the approval of any God. Two thousand year old "laws" interpreted and manipulated by scribes through forced political biases are to be ignored.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

• God
• Sin
• The Devil
• Jesus
• Moses
• Allah
• Buddha
• The A-Team
• Global Warming

All fantasy creations of man, in his own image, from his vanity and wonderfully creative imagination, for his own enjoyment and/or control over others tool.

Next question.

 

[THE LIGHT]

• God
• Sin
• The Devil
• Jesus
• Moses
• Allah
• Buddha
• The A-Team
• Global Warming

All fantasy creations of man, in his own image, from his vanity and wonderfully creative imagination, for his own enjoyment and/or control over others tool.

Next question.

Don't forget to include mankind and the world on that list. We don't really exist, it is just an imaaaaaagination.

 

[THE LIGHT]

Is knowledge sin? What happened to those guys that first claimed that the earth was not the center of our solar system or the universe?

God gave everyone the right to be willfully ignorant if they so choose.

 

[Modbert]

Romans 16:17 I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.

I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.

According to that, you're suppose to shun those who disagree with your religious views.

Romans 8:33,Romans 8:34 - PassageLookup - King James Version - BibleGateway.com

33Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

Self-explained.

Deuteronomy 17:2-7,Deuteronomy 29:18 - PassageLookup - New American Standard Bible - BibleGateway.com

2"(A)If there is found in your midst, in any of your towns, which the LORD your God is giving you, a man or a woman who does what is evil in the sight of the LORD your God, by transgressing His covenant,

3and has gone and (B)served other gods and worshiped them, (C)or the sun or the moon or any of the heavenly host, (D)which I have not commanded,

4and if it is told you and you have heard of it, then you shall inquire thoroughly. Behold, if it is true and the thing certain that this detestable thing has been done in Israel,

5then you shall bring out that man or that woman who has done this evil deed to your gates, that is, the man or the woman, and (E)you shall stone them to death.

6"(F)On the evidence of two witnesses or three witnesses, he who is to die shall be put to death; he shall not be put to death on the evidence of one witness.

7"(G)The hand of the witnesses shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people (H)So you shall purge the evil from your midst.

Deuteronomy 17:12-13 - PassageLookup - Holman Christian Standard Bible - BibleGateway.com

12 The person who acts arrogantly, refusing to listen either to the priest who stands there serving the LORD your God or to the judge, must die. You must purge the evil from Israel. 13 Then all the people will hear [about it], be afraid, and no longer behave arrogantly.

I wonder if that's one of the quotes those priests who were molesting the little boys read off?

 

[Care4all]

Another thread brought up a thought. And yes I know that is dangerous, but anyway.
If one does not believe in god or gods rules can they be a sinner?
And yes I know they are by Christians definition but by their own views are they?

And many sins are variable and religion based not god/bible based.
For exa,m[l;e when I was 6 the church I grew up in thought going to movies was a sin, but by the time I was 18 it was not. 2 years after I left the church of course

Any god that makes it a sin to eat lobster is an asshole god and doesn't deserve recognition.

lobster are bottom feeders...he made all bottom feeders against the rules to fish because they were not safe to eat at the time...there were no sewars or trash dumps, this ended up in the bottom of the sea....shell fish fed off of it or lived in it, made them unsafe to eat at the time....

Same with Pork...they are earthly garbage eaters, worms were prevalent and salmonella...no way to be certain they were cooked to a certain temperature to rid them of it etc, as we have today....

Any birds that were garbage feeders were not suppose to be eaten either, I believe....

I am not certain if these were all rules given by God or not, but whoever created them, did them for a very good reason, at the time....

same with the sexual rules of the do nots, it primarily kept them healthier, during the time they were writen and someone knew this, and wrote it down as edict, so to say....is what i think...

 

[rdean]

Are Atheists sinners?

Hmmm, good question.

I have one of my own.

Are the religious gullible?

 

[xsited1]

Another thread brought up a thought. And yes I know that is dangerous, but anyway.
If one does not believe in god or gods rules can they be a sinner?
And yes I know they are by Christians definition but by their own views are they?

And many sins are variable and religion based not god/bible based.
For exa,m[l;e when I was 6 the church I grew up in thought going to movies was a sin, but by the time I was 18 it was not. 2 years after I left the church of course

Since Atheists are like robots, we can turn to the wisdom of Bender from the TV show Futurama to find the answer to this question.

Bender was becoming addicted to high-voltage electricity. He then turned to the religion of Robotology to help him break the habit. (Sermons were conducted at the Temple of Robotology by the Reverend Preacherbot.)

Robots who accept Robotology are expected to abstain from behavior such as smoking, pornography, stealing, abusing electricity, and drinking alcohol. Consuming alcohol is usually necessary to power a robot's fuel cells, but this episode establishes that mineral oil is an acceptable substitute. Sinners are punished by condemnation to Robot Hell, located under an abandoned amusement park in North Jersey.

Obviously, Bender could not abstain from a sinful life and was therefore sent to Robot Hell. Why? Because Bender joined the Temple of Robotology, accepting the doctrine of eternal damnation in Robot Hell should he sin. Had he not accepted the doctrine, he would not have gone to Robot Hell and would therefore have not been a sinner.

 

[HUGGY]

Another thread brought up a thought. And yes I know that is dangerous, but anyway.
If one does not believe in god or gods rules can they be a sinner?
And yes I know they are by Christians definition but by their own views are they?

And many sins are variable and religion based not god/bible based.
For exa,m[l;e when I was 6 the church I grew up in thought going to movies was a sin, but by the time I was 18 it was not. 2 years after I left the church of course

Since Atheists are like robots, we can turn to the wisdom of Bender from the TV show Futurama to find the answer to this question.

Bender was becoming addicted to high-voltage electricity. He then turned to the religion of Robotology to help him break the habit. (Sermons were conducted at the Temple of Robotology by the Reverend Preacherbot.)

Robots who accept Robotology are expected to abstain from behavior such as smoking, pornography, stealing, abusing electricity, and drinking alcohol. Consuming alcohol is usually necessary to power a robot's fuel cells, but this episode establishes that mineral oil is an acceptable substitute. Sinners are punished by condemnation to Robot Hell, located under an abandoned amusement park in North Jersey.

Obviously, Bender could not abstain from a sinful life and was therefore sent to Robot Hell. Why? Because Bender joined the Temple of Robotology, accepting the doctrine of eternal damnation in Robot Hell should he sin. Had he not accepted the doctrine, he would not have gone to Robot Hell and would therefore have not been a sinner.

Huh?????? WTF???? I just wannna eat my lobster and listen to my stones and watch dumb asses jump off of the Golden Gate Bridge...Is that too fuckin much to ask?

 

[Amanda]

I wonder if that's one of the quotes those priests who were molesting the little boys read off?

What a crock. Anyone harming innocents is doing evil in God's eyes.

Do you really believe anything you type? Or is your hated of religion really all that matters?

Srsly. I just read a book about sexual addicts (Out of the Shadows by Patrick Carnes), and those that molest are sick. They need help. It doesn't matter if they are members of the clergy or not, they are working from a flawed premise. To paint all who believe with the same brush is being willfully ignorant... and apparently that would be you.