Why exactly does America need the Republican Party?

Billy000

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Tell me. What good has it done for this country? Tax cuts have been proven to cause more harm than good. That has always seemed to be their biggest selling point. Guess what? It wasn't tax cuts that created economic growth during Reagan's years. If it was, we would have seen massive job growth during Bush Jr.'s years. We didn't. Job growth was pitiful until Obama came into office. In fact, we wouldn't have had the economic collapse in 2008 in the first place if republican policies worked. 2.5x more private sector jobs were created in Obama's 5 years than in Bush's 8. Guess what saved the economy, Pubs? DEMAND side economics. That was Obama's stimulus package. It has proven to be much more successful than supply side. The obvious reason why the unemployment rate is higher under Obama is because the economic collapse happened 4 month before Obama was sworn in! Obviously the several millions of jobs we lost would translate into a higher unemployment rate in his years. Whether you cons want to admit it or not, Obama inherited a steaming mess. Luckily Obama's stimulus turned the free fall into growth. Unfortunately, we still have a way to go. Obama himself has admitted that. Slow is better than nothing.

Why Extended Federal Unemployment Benefits Boost the Economy

(Explains why tax cuts do more harm than good and why Obama's demand side economics were such a success).

Obama?s Numbers, October Update

More Jobs Created Under Obama Than Bush, Non-Partisan Report Finds | Politics And Regulation | Minyanville's Wall Street

Come on. This is the party that convinced their base that tax cuts pay for themselves. Knuckle dragging logic. I don't pretend that democrats are the heroes, but there is no denying that democratic economic policies have worked.

So tell me repubs. What do you have to show for yourselves? Reagan? Please. That was decades ago. Nowadays you got nothing. There is no evidence republicanism has done this country any good. Bush jr. drove this country into the ground.

Tell me what would Romney have accomplished? Government spending would have continued under his reign. Private sector job growth was already happening under Obama. And healthcare? RomneyCare? Tell me, what exactly made Romney/Heritage's healthcare system any better than Obama's? Answer: nothing. Why? Because it is the same damn plan!

Oh, and the massive income disparity in this country? The massive gap between the middle class and the wealthy? We can easily blame that on republicanism. Since 2009, 95% of income gains have gone to the wealthiest Americans despite the massive productivity that the lower classes have accomplished.

http://www.businessinsider.com/95-o...the-top-1-heres-what-that-really-means-2013-9
 
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Oh and the Vietnam war. You remember this right? Your war?
 

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Tell me. What good has it done for this country? Tax cuts have been proven to cause more harm than good. That has always seemed to be their biggest selling point. Guess what? It wasn't tax cuts that created economic growth during Reagan's years. If it was, we would have seen massive job growth during Bush Jr.'s years. We didn't. Job growth was pitiful until Obama came into office. In fact, we wouldn't have had the economic collapse in 2008 in the first place if republican policies worked. 2.5x more private sector jobs were created in Obama's 5 years than in Bush's 8. Guess what saved the economy, Pubs? DEMAND side economics. That was Obama's stimulus package. It has proven to be much more successful than supply side. The obvious reason why the unemployment rate is higher under Obama is because the economic collapse happened 4 month before Obama was sworn in! Obviously the several millions of jobs we lost would translate into a higher unemployment rate in his years. Whether you cons want to admit it or not, Obama inherited a steaming mess. Luckily Obama's stimulus turned the free fall into growth. Unfortunately, we still have a way to go. Obama himself has admitted that. Slow is better than nothing.

Why Extended Federal Unemployment Benefits Boost the Economy

(Explains why tax cuts do more harm than good and why Obama's demand side economics were such a success).

Obama?s Numbers, October Update

More Jobs Created Under Obama Than Bush, Non-Partisan Report Finds | Politics And Regulation | Minyanville's Wall Street

Come on. This is the party that convinced their base that tax cuts pay for themselves. Knuckle dragging logic. I don't pretend that democrats are the heroes, but there is no denying that democratic economic policies have worked.

So tell me repubs. What do you have to show for yourselves? Reagan? Please. That was decades ago. Nowadays you got nothing. There is no evidence republicanism has done this country any good. Bush jr. drove this country into the ground.

Tell me what would Romney have accomplished? Government spending would have continued under his reign. Private sector job growth was already happening under Obama. And healthcare? RomneyCare? Tell me, what exactly made Romney/Heritage's healthcare system any better than Obama's? Answer: nothing. Why? Because it is the same damn plan!
So you piss ant. Lets talk. And you better be ready.
 

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Uhm just thinking here...........

The Republican party ended slavery.......
 

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I disagree fervently with the OP. Whatever is wrong with the republican party, democrats would have had a big ass expensive party without them and the American people would have to pick up the tab.

The balanced budget of the 90's was almost all due to republicans saying enough is enough - it was good for America, I don't know why Clinton still gets all of the credit for that.
 

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Anyone who would advocate a single party system, anyone who would suggest the dissolution of one party over another, is a fool.
Agreed.

The last thing any country needs is a complete autonomy, with no checks and balances to insure that it is doing the right thing.
 

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And the Libs still can not figure out the difference between Obama Care and Romney care.
Romney care was a Bi- partisan bill in one STATE

Obozo care was a partisan bill covering the Entire United States. What works out in the North East don't cut it with us folks in the Mid west and South.
 

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Anyone who would advocate a single party system, anyone who would suggest the dissolution of one party over another, is a fool.
Agreed.

The last thing any country needs is a complete autonomy, with no checks and balances to insure that it is doing the right thing.

Problem is, there are many who have a romantic notion of government and who WANT it to be more powerful and authoritarian.

I can't imaging thinking such a thing, but they're all for it.

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Why exactly does America need partisan ideologues?

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Because no democracy has ever functioned without 'partisan ideologies'. Indeed that is what is good about democracy, it provides a framework in which inevitable sets of partisans can co-exist in peace.

One party states always end in the elite of that party turning into oppressors and greedy grabbers of the few goodies that their regimes produce.
 

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Opposing Authoritarian Ideological Fundamentalism.
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Why exactly does America need partisan ideologues?

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Because no democracy has ever functioned without 'partisan ideologies'. Indeed that is what is good about democracy, it provides a framework in which inevitable sets of partisans can co-exist in peace.

One party states always end in the elite of that party turning into oppressors and greedy grabbers of the few goodies that their regimes produce.

I can agree in theory, but not in practice. Yes, "it provides a framework in which inevitable sets of partisans can co-exist in peace", I'm with you, but today's partisan ideologues are nothing more than narcissistic liars with absolutely no interest in co-existing in peace. They have to be honest brokers, serious contributors to the process and they are not. It's absolutely impossible to take anything a partisan ideologue says at face value -- how can any cooperation or progress come from that?

And we're seeing the results. Decay. Until some brave leaders arrive and move politics away from this behavior, the decay will surely continue.

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The US is trending towards a one party state like the PRI in Mexico. As the country becomes poorer and more non-white, the Democrat Party will become the entrenched majority party, with the GOP becoming an entrenched minority opposition party with little political power, primarily relying on corporate patronage(though they will receive less than the Democrats do as corporate interests back a winner) and the votes of Whites who don't rely on public services.

We might go belly up before that happens though. Who knows at this point. We could be looking at a USSR style collapse, or we could continue a slow slide, will see.
 
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I see in you someone who has been well indocterated in the Democrat machine. God bless you when you finally find out the truth if you have the balls to keep searching. .
 

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The US is trending towards a one party state like the PRI in Mexico. As the country becomes poorer and more non-white, the Democrat Party will become the entrenched majority party, with the GOP becoming an entrenched minority opposition party with little political power, primarily relying on corporate patronage(though they will receive less than the Democrats do as corporate interests back a winner) and the votes of Whites who doesn't rely on public services.

We might go belly up before that happens though. Who knows at this point. We could be looking at a USSR style collapse, or we could continue a slow slide, will see.
I don't think so because Obama care is waking people up. It is hitting the middle class were it hurts.. In there back pocket.
 

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