Trump Lost Badly In Iran And Can't Spin His Way Out

[Zavulon]

Achilles Heel? no Patience?? you mean the Democrats as a political party?
Its not even a prolonged war yet.. its only two months. THE Viet Cong had the backing of China and were supplied by them.. weapons plus whatever else they needed. With Iran they have no such support, they are basically cut off with the embargo.

Really? And their foreign affairs minister meets with Putin just to discuss classic literature?

 

[Zavulon]

Iran has an offensive policy The countries you mentioned have a defensive policy.

It's simply not true.

Iran will attack first as soon as they have the capability.

They are not suicidals. With minimal arsenal they could play only Minimal Deterrence.

 

[rightwinger]

America Israel Qatar Saudi Arabia UAE isnt that enough

Retaliatory bombings

 

[0311]

As if YOU would know "actual" history

The USA had been involved in Vietnam since the 50'ies - massively providing arms, intel and support to the French.

Kennedy knew that Green Berets and other instructors couldn't turn the tide in South-Vietnam - so he decided (with full support by Congress) to send the first regular US troops to SV. LBJ then made a full fledged war out it (with full support by Congress) - targeting North Vietnam and ordering illegal bombings on Laos and Cambodia.

Nixon first (with full support by Congress) even expanded that war to Laos and Cambodia by ordering a ground invasion into those countries. After filling the last 58,000 body bags - someone told him that the war isn't winnable - and that the Democrats might win the next election if he won't put and end to the Vietnam war - The Paris Peace Accords were mainly pushed by the United States, led by President Richard Nixon and National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger, and not by North-Vietnam.

And every reputable US staff officer having served in Vietnam was fully aware that the South wouldn't stand a chance - so factually the US ＢＥＴＲＡＹＥＤ its former long time ally.

Now that FACTS and HISTORY - not your war-comic knowledge

Nion's "Secret Peace Plan" was to sell the Government of South Viet Nam. Most of those 58,000 Body Bags were filled AFTER Tricky DIcky.

 

[0311]

Dementia Donnie is in way over his ugly comb over. Netanyahood convinced him that Iran would an easy, "Winnable" and that an out right, down right lie. Iran is NOT just a roll over war. Iran has the tech and the natural where with all to stand up to both Israel AND the United Staes.

Russia is using Iranian Drones in Ukraine. Russia will never tolerate U.S Ground Forces in Iran. Iran is winning right now and they now it.

 

[0311]

Should read as:

"Nixon's "Secret Peace Plan" was to sell the Government of South Viet Nam. Most of those 58,000 Body Bags were filled AFTER Tricky DIcky was elected. I lost several buddies to that asshole. Nixon was a self-serving POS.

 

[Kruska]

Nion's "Secret Peace Plan" was to sell the Government of South Viet Nam. Most of those 58,000 Body Bags were filled AFTER Tricky DIcky.

It was part of the broader plan to isolate the Soviet Union via opening relations with China. For that a ceasefire no matter the costs, (meetings running already since 1968 and strongly intensifying in 1972), had to be concluded with N-Vietnam, that was also militarily and economically supported by China.

So sell out S-Vietnam - thus ending the Vietnam war (pleasing the US public), gain a friendly China via abandoning Taiwan, whilst weakening/isolating the Soviet Union in Asia.

 

[Lockback]

Should read as:

"Nixon's "Secret Peace Plan" was to sell the Government of South Viet Nam. Most of those 58,000 Body Bags were filled AFTER Tricky DIcky was elected. I lost several buddies to that asshole. Nixon was a self-serving POS.

You can thank LBJ for getting us into that mess.

 

[Kruska]

China is an absolute communist dictatorship

You may be one of the few clueless libs on the planet who doesent know that

Only a total idiot that doesn't know shit about China - will forward the absurdities you post.

 

[Lockback]

Only a total idiot that doesn't know shit about China - will forward the absurdities you post.

You love yourself some Xi, eh?

"Kruska and me, we tight. He leave out parts about how our economy not doing so good no more but we still have enough to pay him."

 

[0311]

Only a total idiot that doesn't know shit about China - will forward the absurdities you post.

47 attracts idiots, the stupider the freaking better. Easily led and easily lied to.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Yes….”TRUMP” lost.

Iran nuked us.

We are all dead.

The afterlife is an eternity of posting on the USMB.

 

[Kruska]

China chose to engage the US in war to save its little communist brother in n korea

They engaged us first

Start READING books - no one is interested in your unsubstantiated bull. Till then find yourself and your bull on ignore.

AI
China did not attack the U.S. first in Korea. The Korean War began on June 25, 1950, with a North Korean invasion of South Korea. China entered the war in late October/November 1950 (after the US bombing Chinese territory for the past two month) only after U.S./UN forces crossed the 38th Parallel and pushed toward the Chinese border, viewing the advance as a threat to their security.

At 10:05 a.m. on August 27, 1950, three U.S. P51 fighters and a mosquito reconnaissance plane flew into Dandong and Dalizi station, China, and strafed Chinese railway stations and railways. Then at 11:04, four US warplanes flew into the area again and sprayed the Yalu River bridge and its vicinity for 11 minutes, causing damage to our ground vehicles and injuring two Chinese civilians

From August 27, 1950 to November 19, 1950, nearly two months, the US sent thousands of flights of aircraft, 151 times into the territory of China. Targeting and innocent people via strafing and bombing, causing a large number of casualties and property losses.

The US has attacked China already THREE times

Boxer-rebellion 1900
Korea war 1950
Chinese embassy in Belgrade 1999

 

[Lockback]

47 attracts idiots, the stupider the freaking better. Easily led and easily lied to.

Just keep lying to yourself. We love it.

 

[Mac-7]

Start READING books - no one is interested in your unsubstantiated bull. Till then find yourself and your bull on ignore.

AI
China did not attack the U.S. first in Korea. The Korean War began on June 25, 1950, with a North Korean invasion of South Korea. China entered the war in late October/November 1950 (after the US bombing Chinese territory for the past two month) only after U.S./UN forces crossed the 38th Parallel and pushed toward the Chinese border, viewing the advance as a threat to their security.

At 10:05 a.m. on August 27, 1950, three U.S. P51 fighter jets and a mosquito reconnaissance plane flew into Dandong and Dalizi station, China, and strafed Chinese railway stations and railways. Then at 11:04, four US warplanes flew into the area again and sprayed the Yalu River bridge and its vicinity for 11 minutes, causing damage to our ground vehicles and injuring two Chinese civilians

From August 27, 1950 to November 19, 1950, nearly two months, the US sent thousands of flights of aircraft, 151 times into the territory of China. Targeting and innocent people via strafing and bombing, causing a large number of casualties and property losses.

The US has attacked China already THREE times

Boxer-rebellion 1900
Korea war 1950
Chinese embassy in Belgrade 1999

Reaching all the way back to 1900 exposes the weakness of your claim

China was supplying north korea across the Yalu River

US pilots were ordered not to cross into chinese airspace but I dont doubt that they may have while in hot pursuit of north korean migs

But that was far from an invasion as you claim

 

[0311]

Start READING books - no one is interested in your unsubstantiated bull. Till then find yourself and your bull on ignore.

AI
China did not attack the U.S. first in Korea. The Korean War began on June 25, 1950, with a North Korean invasion of South Korea. China entered the war in late October/November 1950 (after the US bombing Chinese territory for the past two month) only after U.S./UN forces crossed the 38th Parallel and pushed toward the Chinese border, viewing the advance as a threat to their security.

At 10:05 a.m. on August 27, 1950, three U.S. P51 fighter jets and a mosquito reconnaissance plane flew into Dandong and Dalizi station, China, and strafed Chinese railway stations and railways. Then at 11:04, four US warplanes flew into the area again and sprayed the Yalu River bridge and its vicinity for 11 minutes, causing damage to our ground vehicles and injuring two Chinese civilians

From August 27, 1950 to November 19, 1950, nearly two months, the US sent thousands of flights of aircraft, 151 times into the territory of China. Targeting and innocent people via strafing and bombing, causing a large number of casualties and property losses.

The US has attacked China already THREE times

Boxer-rebellion 1900
Korea war 1950
Chinese embassy in Belgrade 1999

This dolt should, "American Caesar", the book about Douglas Mac Arthur. He wanted to deploy Nuclear Bombs in a war with Communist China, Harry Truman fired over that. Korea was cluster **** from the word go. The U.S. got involved over stupid reasons, not unlike Viet Freaking Nam.

Mao reacted to U.S. Aggression only after he was forced to. American Forces crossed the Yalu River first, that is one thing people forget.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

So just because someone else gets it's global economic share - he is an enemy???
So BMW is an enemy to Ford or GM?? Coca Cola is an enemy to Pepsi?? what a weird world you must live in.

That's exactly what China is - once they attack the USA they become your enemy. When did they attack???
Have they already occupied any of the USA's neighbor countries and set up military bases??? Do they have any defense agreements with US neighbor states??? Do they constantly send Naval patrols into US territorial waters???

Oh yeah right that balloon must have been a massive threat to you - how about those SR-71 flights over China, US spy satellites and recon planes - then forced to land on Hainan?? how many Chinese aircraft has the US force-landed in the USA???

If the USA keeps provoking them - yep, very likely to happen.
They haven't forgotten that the USA attacked them in 1900 and 1951.

Join the BRICs or Join the Brokes

China is making the same progress that the United States did in the 19th Century. No other power felt threatened by that. Our ruling class is transferring its fear of the Commoners to China and would get added benefit if we played along with its Cold War II agenda and ignored its clear and present tyranny at home.

The historical precedent here is England fearing the late 19th Century rapid economic growth of Germany. Instead of competing through reform of its stagnant and birthclass-biased economic system, it decided to go to war.

 

[imawhosure]

This is a JOKE thread, put forth by the Communist LEFTISTS, supported by AOC, Mz Omarr, and Bernie.

GET OUT OF THIS THREAD, and let them talk to each other, instead of creating nonsensical bullsh**, then challenging you to address it, on their nonsensical terms.

I know, I know, you want to hang them upside down by their toes, but as long as they are keyboard warriors hiding, you are wasting your time!

 

[Kruska]

This dolt should, "American Caesar", the book about Douglas Mac Arthur. He wanted to deploy Nuclear Bombs in a war with Communist China, Harry Truman fired over that. Korea was cluster **** from the word go. The U.S. got involved over stupid reasons, not unlike Viet Freaking Nam.

Mao reacted to U.S. Aggression only after he was forced to. American Forces crossed the Yalu River first, that is one thing people forget.

Yes "American Caesar" is a very thoroughly researched book. If narcissistic Mac Arthur would have secured a US presidency - he would have been even more devastating to the world than this narcissistic fraudster TACO.

As for nukes - if the alleged incident happened, I am quite convinced that when TACO ran his childlike tantrums - he actually did want to demonstrate a nuke strike to Iran. Any news as to what happened to that factually "hawkish" Air-force General Dan Caine?

After-all Caine was also the one who convinced TACO, after having his talks with IDF Lt. Gen. Zamir, Intel boss Maj. Gen. Binder and Mossad boss Bernea. All I know is that Caine still is holding his rank and position. So just some fake story?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Difference Iran Regime has no where to go so they will stay on and block the strait...

US has more to loose and Iran has way more time to see this out... How long will US take high gas prices and the Inflation it brings?

Iran was in talks the Isreal and trump bombed... They made a good opening offer by putting the Nuclear Program and Supporting Hezbollah and Hamas on table to trade...

Isreal and Saudis don't want Iran to normalise relationships with the Rest of the World...

Never Negotiate Out of Fear; Always Force Your Enemies to Negotiate Out of Fear

In their insanity, psychotic fanatics suppress their fear and must be crushed mercilessly.