CharlestonChad
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Is there anyone on this board that takes the Old Testiment word for word? If so, can I ask why?
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Joz said:...
But if you are a Bible believer, how could you not believe in the Old Testament? The New fulfills the Old, it does NOT negate it.
dmp said:Because it's true, word for word.
acludem said:So you would advocate capital punishment for disobedient children?
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
acludem
acludem said:How is context going to change the sentence: All who curse their mother and father be put to death. ? How? This plainly says if you curse your parents you get killed, show me the context that in anyway changes this. Is someone other than God giving this command? Does got smite he down who giveth this command?
acludem
acludem said:I understand what context is. But in this case, context will not change the meaning of the words. If it does, post the context.
acludem
acludem said:How is context going to change the sentence: All who curse their mother and father be put to death. ? How? This plainly says if you curse your parents you get killed, show me the context that in anyway changes this. Is someone other than God giving this command? Does got smite he down who giveth this command?
acludem
Hobbit said:a) It was in a list of long outdated laws that were rendered obselete by the coming of Christ.
b) There are many nuances to the Hebrew language that cannot be fit into an English translation. If I remember correctly, the word used for 'strike' referred to a very deliberate, intentional act of assault, not just a reflexive action. To commit this crime, one would have to intentionally assault his parents with full intent to injure or kill to invoke the death penalty. In Hebrew culture, there was no such thing as imprisonment and the authority of parents was second only to the authority of God. That's why it was a capital offense.
Mutations accumulate in the genome over time. The original people were flawless.Mr.Conley said:Here's my question, how could Adam and Eve be thed sole progenators of the entire human race without massive, incest-induced, species-crippling, genetic flaws?
Hobbit said:a) It was in a list of long outdated laws that were rendered obselete by the coming of Christ.
b) There are many nuances to the Hebrew language that cannot be fit into an English translation. If I remember correctly, the word used for 'strike' referred to a very deliberate, intentional act of assault, not just a reflexive action. To commit this crime, one would have to intentionally assault his parents with full intent to injure or kill to invoke the death penalty. In Hebrew culture, there was no such thing as imprisonment and the authority of parents was second only to the authority of God. That's why it was a capital offense.
mattskramer said:This is what really confuses me. Are you saying that the 10 Commandments no longer apply? What about all of the other instructions? Do they matter? What rules are Christians to follow? It seems like a convenient out for so-called Christians. Okay. So we dont need to be guided by the Old Testament, but we should still follow the each sentence of advice given in the New Testament right?