Who believes in the OT?

[Abbey Normal]

Is there anyone on this board that takes the Old Testiment word for word? If so, can I ask why?

Do none of our Jewish members believe in their own religious texts? How odd.

 

[dilloduck]

Do none of our Jewish members believe in their own religious texts? How odd.

We don't have any verified Jewish members. (Do we ?)

 

[Nienna]

Why doesn't God interact with us as much as he did in ancient times? Surely, the human race is much more violent than it was back then.

Also, how do we know people didn't screw around in their interpretations of the Bible? It wasn't written by God, it was written by the fallible human being.

Why do you say God doesn't interact with us? He is just WAITING for each and every one of us to wake up and call on Him. He will interact as much as we allow Him to.

Maybe people are more violent... I don't know. Maybe it's just that there are more people.

The human beings had to have had divine inspiration. How else would they have known certain things, like all the prophecies that came to pass, or even stuff about science? (ie, Isaiah talks about the"circle of the earth," at a time period when most people thought the earth was flat.)

 

[Abbey Normal]

We don't have any verified Jewish members. (Do we ?)

 

[Nienna]

Abbey, clean out your PM box, girl!

 

[Abbey Normal]

Abbey, clean out your PM box, girl!

Swept clean!

 

[Hagbard Celine]

How is context going to change the sentence: All who curse their mother and father be put to death. ? How? This plainly says if you curse your parents you get killed, show me the context that in anyway changes this. Is someone other than God giving this command? Does got smite he down who giveth this command?

acludem

It's an antiquated Jewish common law man. No one still does this, with the possible exception of some of those savages living out in the deserts of the Middle East. Any normal person can understand this man. Nobody disputes that the savages who wrote the Bible had strict laws by today's standards. The things you should focus on are the unbelievable things that don't corroborate science and history.

 

[jillian]

I'm claiming that Christianity is a continuation of ancient Judaism.

Then you can't believe the Old Testament, including Genesis, is to be taken literally, because the people to whom that book belongs never did. It is allegorical and was always intended to be.

 

[Nienna]

Then you can't believe the Old Testament, including Genesis, is to be taken literally

I can, and I DO.

... because the people to whom that book belongs never did. It is allegorical and was always intended to be.

When Jesus refers to the OT, he speaks as if he believes it is true history. I guess you are free to interpret it as you wish. However, I see no reason to believe the entire OT is an allegory.

 

[Abbey Normal]

I can, and I DO.

When Jesus refers to the OT, he speaks as if he believes it is true history. I guess you are free to interpret it as you wish. However, I see no reason to believe the entire OT is an allegory.

But Nienna, an allegorical OT makes it so easy to sin without feeling convicted.

I wonder what led David to create all of those beautiful songs in Psalms. Perhaps it was his allegorical loving relationship with God?

 

[jillian]

But Nienna, an allegorical OT makes it so easy to sin without feeling convicted.

I wonder what led David to create all of those beautiful songs in Psalms. Perhaps it was his allegorical loving relationship with God?

Ah...the paradigm of religious tolerance. RAFLMAO! What were you saying again about ridiculing the beliefs of others?

:rotflmao:

 

[jillian]

Ah...the paradigm of religious tolerance. RAFLMAO! What were you saying again about ridiculing the beliefs of others?

:rotflmao:

*Edit* And what on EARTH does David's celebration of the divine have to do with it being taken literally??? Some believe that the Bible would be a simplification since men couldn't comprehend what actually exists.

 

[Nienna]

*Edit* And what on EARTH does David's celebration of the divine have to do with it being taken literally??? Some believe that the Bible would be a simplification since men couldn't comprehend what actually exists.

I think she means that David had a literal (as opposed to an allegorical) relationship with God which inspired him to write the Psalms. If I am correct, Abbey?

 

[jillian]

I think she means that David had a literal (as opposed to an allegorical) relationship with God which inspired him to write the Psalms. If I am correct, Abbey?

Who said there is NO history in the bible?

You know, for someone who doesn't seem like a bad person, you tolerate an awful lot of intolerance.

 

[Nienna]

Who said there is NO history in the bible?

I didn't. Did you?

You know, for someone who doesn't seem like a bad person, you tolerate an awful lot of intolerance.

Maybe that's because I'm tolerant?

 

[jillian]

I didn't. Did you?

Nope. But it isn't literal either.

Maybe that's because I'm tolerant?

Yeah...so long as the views being "tolerated" are yours.

 

[Abbey Normal]

I think she means that David had a literal (as opposed to an allegorical) relationship with God which inspired him to write the Psalms. If I am correct, Abbey?

That's exactly, right, Nienna.

 

[Nienna]

Nope. But it isn't literal either.

Well, you are entitled to your beliefs on that subject.

Yeah...so long as the views being "tolerated" are yours.

Keep reading. You may just change your opinion about this.

 

[Nienna]

That's exactly, right, Nienna.

 

[Abbey Normal]

Ah...the paradigm of religious tolerance. RAFLMAO! What were you saying again about ridiculing the beliefs of others?

:rotflmao:

Boy, you sure sound like someone who has been dying to pull that one out. Too bad you chose an illogical time to use it, sweetie. My explaining why I believe some people feel the need to debunk the Bible, has nothing to do with religious intolerance. Come on and tell me of which religion I am being intolerant?

But then again, your M.O. is to claim Christian intolerance in just about every other post.

Hey btw, Jillian, can't we conservative girls have some of the winky and smiley icons and flirtatiousness you like to use with the conservative guys? All we females ever get is the Jillian (unwarranted) condescension. Sheesh, you'd never make it as a feminist.