Zone1 John 1:1---2Cor 4:4

[kjw47]

These are the only 2 spots in NT where 2 beings are being called God-god in the same paragraph.-- At both spots the True God is called Ho Theos=The God--while the Word and Satan( the god of this system of things)is called Theos.- Why? God - god is why=100% fact of translating. The true God is called a different Greek word at both spots than what the Word and satan are called. The only possible difference = God - god. The only word in Greek for God or god is Theos--to show a difference from God or god when in the same paragraph the true God is called Ho Theos when in the same paragraph with god=Theos--The true God when mentioned alone in a paragraph is called Theos in many NT spots-Why? Because all know the true God is being spoken of in those spots.
Trinity translations are not only altered( removal of Gods name over 7000 places where God willed it to be.) but filled with errors by satans will to mislead all using those corrupted translations.
The above is 100% fact of life--You all better relook. Every bible scholar on earth knows its fact, they say nothing because hundreds of religions claiming to be Christian would be proven false religion, (and billions of dollars would be lost every year- this is the big reason they say nothing), and 2 billion humans would sue them for taking their money week after week when they do know their translations are corrupt.

 

[Crepitus]

Those two Corinthians are back?

 

[luiza]

Great thinking by those that came up with the Holy Ghost ( Spirit) idea .

If they had concentrated on that and chucked the baby pictures of a person as the supreme creator , our species would have advanced far quicker .
As it is, we will have to endure Cult Christian mumbo jumbo for a little longer and until the object of their adulation -- the Space Aliens -- make a much required return .

Come back the Elohim . All is forgiven .

 

[Cougarbear]

These are the only 2 spots in NT where 2 beings are being called God-god in the same paragraph.-- At both spots the True God is called Ho Theos=The God--while the Word and Satan( the god of this system of things)is called Theos.- Why? God - god is why=100% fact of translating. The true God is called a different Greek word at both spots than what the Word and satan are called. The only possible difference = God - god. The only word in Greek for God or god is Theos--to show a difference from God or god when in the same paragraph the true God is called Ho Theos when in the same paragraph with god=Theos--The true God when mentioned alone in a paragraph is called Theos in many NT spots-Why? Because all know the true God is being spoken of in those spots.
Trinity translations are not only altered( removal of Gods name over 7000 places where God willed it to be.) but filled with errors by satans will to mislead all using those corrupted translations.
The above is 100% fact of life--You all better relook. Every bible scholar on earth knows its fact, they say nothing because hundreds of religions claiming to be Christian would be proven false religion, (and billions of dollars would be lost every year- this is the big reason they say nothing), and 2 billion humans would sue them for taking their money week after week when they do know their translations are corrupt.

John 1:1, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." Are you saying Satan is God? I knew JWs were Satanic. But, thanks for the information. There are definitely 2 members of the Godhead. The Word, Jesus Christ and the God, Elohim. Can't have the same name since the verse uses two different positions of creators and rulers of the universe.
Matthew 1:20, "Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost."
Matthew 1:23, "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God is with us."
Matthew 1:25, "And knew not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS."

Safe to say, the Word is Jesus Christ, the Son of God with the Holy Ghost the physician that put the Father's sperm into Mary's egg. In vitro fertilization which is scientifically proved thousands of times over. Two who have a title position of God. Your interpretation of Greek sucks!

 

[kjw47]

John 1:1, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." Are you saying Satan is God? I knew JWs were Satanic. But, thanks for the information. There are definitely 2 members of the Godhead. The Word, Jesus Christ and the God, Elohim. Can't have the same name since the verse uses two different positions of creators and rulers of the universe.
Matthew 1:20, "Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost."
Matthew 1:23, "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God is with us."
Matthew 1:25, "And knew not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS."

Safe to say, the Word is Jesus Christ, the Son of God with the Holy Ghost the physician that put the Father's sperm into Mary's egg. In vitro fertilization which is scientifically proved thousands of times over. Two who have a title position of God. Your interpretation of Greek sucks!

You need an English lesson. I said Jesus is not God-he is god= has godlike qualities, as does satan. God = the true living God--god= has godlike qualities.
Was Jesus named Emmanuel or Jesus? That had alternate meaning. Yes God was with us-through Jesus because God was with Jesus( Acts 10:38))))--- God did all the powerful works-through Jesus( Acts 2:22--that is how God was with us.

 

[Cougarbear]

You need an English lesson. I said Jesus is not God-he is god= has godlike qualities, as does satan. God = the true living God--god= has godlike qualities.
Was Jesus named Emmanuel or Jesus? That had alternate meaning. Yes God was with us-through Jesus because God was with Jesus( Acts 10:38))))--- God did all the powerful works-through Jesus( Acts 2:22--that is how God was with us.

I don't care what you say. I used the Bible, not what I say. You need to stop thinking you are smarter than God. You aren't God. So, read it again. It's very clear. In the beginning was the Word. The Word was with God, the Word WAS (and still is) God. You yourself said the two, Word and God are different Greek words. That should tell you that there are at least 2 members that make up God or the Godhead. The Father God and the Son God. And, this is why I don't care what you say. I care what the Bible says.

John 1:1, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." Are you saying Satan is God? I knew JWs were Satanic. But, thanks for the information. There are definitely 2 members of the Godhead. The Word, Jesus Christ and the God, Elohim. Can't have the same name since the verse uses two different positions of creators and rulers of the universe.
Matthew 1:20, "Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost."
Matthew 1:23, "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God is with us."
Matthew 1:25, "And knew not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS."

Safe to say, the Word is Jesus Christ, the Son of God with the Holy Ghost the physician that put the Father's sperm into Mary's egg. In vitro fertilization which is scientifically proved thousands of times over. Two who have a title position of God. Your interpretation of Greek sucks!

 

[kjw47]

I don't care what you say. I used the Bible, not what I say. You need to stop thinking you are smarter than God. You aren't God. So, read it again. It's very clear. In the beginning was the Word. The Word was with God, the Word WAS (and still is) God. You yourself said the two, Word and God are different Greek words. That should tell you that there are at least 2 members that make up God or the Godhead. The Father God and the Son God. And, this is why I don't care what you say. I care what the Bible says.

John 1:1, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." Are you saying Satan is God? I knew JWs were Satanic. But, thanks for the information. There are definitely 2 members of the Godhead. The Word, Jesus Christ and the God, Elohim. Can't have the same name since the verse uses two different positions of creators and rulers of the universe.
Matthew 1:20, "Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost."
Matthew 1:23, "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God is with us."
Matthew 1:25, "And knew not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS."

Safe to say, the Word is Jesus Christ, the Son of God with the Holy Ghost the physician that put the Father's sperm into Mary's egg. In vitro fertilization which is scientifically proved thousands of times over. Two who have a title position of God. Your interpretation of Greek sucks!

Unless taught by these-Matt 24:45--one lives in darkness no matter if they read the bible 50 times.

 

[Cougarbear]

Unless taught by these-Matt 24:45--one lives in darkness no matter if they read the bible 50 times.

So, you agree that you do not follow the Bible.

 

[Cougarbear]

Unless taught by these-Matt 24:45--one lives in darkness no matter if they read the bible 50 times.

Huh? That says nothing about what the Bible teaches. You do not follow the Bible. You therefore live in darkness.

 

[kjw47]

Huh? That says nothing about what the Bible teaches. You do not follow the Bible. You therefore live in darkness.

God will show the whole world who listens to his son and seeks the kingdom first and Jehovahs( his) righteousness( Matt 6:33) Its not to hard to see who actually does that. Those in darkness cannot see.

 

[Cougarbear]

God will show the whole world who listens to his son and seeks the kingdom first and Jehovahs( his) righteousness( Matt 6:33) Its not to hard to see who actually does that. Those in darkness cannot see.

You don’t already listen to God. You reject the Bible and then try to use it. Hypocrisy. Explain John1:1. You called the Word, Satan. The Bible calls the Word God and was with God. Two God’s. Stop talking and listen more.

 

[kjw47]

You don’t already listen to God. You reject the Bible and then try to use it. Hypocrisy. Explain John1:1. You called the Word, Satan. The Bible calls the Word God and was with God. Two God’s. Stop talking and listen more.

Are you dense. Take an English lesson and STOP lying about what i say.

 

[Cougarbear]

Are you dense. Take an English lesson and STOP lying about what i say.

Your English is at best at a level of 6th grade. But that isn’t the problem with your responses. It’s the fact you won’t respond to questions. Instead, you Bible bash. Just explain John 1:1. You wrote the Word = Satan. John writes the Word was not only with God, He is God too. God the Father and the Word, who is Jesus Christ, who is also God. Not the Arch Angel.

 

[kjw47]

Your English is at best at a level of 6th grade. But that isn’t the problem with your responses. It’s the fact you won’t respond to questions. Instead, you Bible bash. Just explain John 1:1. You wrote the Word = Satan. John writes the Word was not only with God, He is God too. God the Father and the Word, who is Jesus Christ, who is also God. Not the Arch Angel.

I said the Word received the same word as satan got at 2 Cor 4:4=god. And you know it.

 

[Cougarbear]

I said the Word received the same word as satan got at 2 Cor 4:4=god. And you know it.

So what? What is John 1:1 saying? The Word is Jesus Christ. The Word is God. Logic says then Jesus is God. Not the Arch Angel Michael. Forget about any other verse. Don’t bring up any other verse. This verse proves Jesus is God and not the Arch Angel.

Now, it shows another point. Jesus was with God too. What?! So, who is this other God. Not the Word because it’s already established that Jesus is the Word. So, who is the 2nd God? Pay attention mainstream and Catholic Christianity. They cannot be the personage because of this verse. Forget other verses. It’s obvious that this 2nd God has to be the Father because Jesus is the Son.

Four logical conclusions:
1. God the Father is the 2nd God
2. Jesus is the Word and a God
3. Michael, the Arch Angel, cannot be Jesus
4. The Father and Son are separate distinct personages

Attempting to introduce another verse to state any of the 4 are incorrect would contradict John 1:1.

 

[kjw47]

So what? What is John 1:1 saying? The Word is Jesus Christ. The Word is God. Logic says then Jesus is God. Not the Arch Angel Michael. Forget about any other verse. Don’t bring up any other verse. This verse proves Jesus is God and not the Arch Angel.

Now, it shows another point. Jesus was with God too. What?! So, who is this other God. Not the Word because it’s already established that Jesus is the Word. So, who is the 2nd God? Pay attention mainstream and Catholic Christianity. They cannot be the personage because of this verse. Forget other verses. It’s obvious that this 2nd God has to be the Father because Jesus is the Son.

Four logical conclusions:
1. God the Father is the 2nd God
2. Jesus is the Word and a God
3. Michael, the Arch Angel, cannot be Jesus
4. The Father and Son are separate distinct personages

Attempting to introduce another verse to state any of the 4 are incorrect would contradict John 1:1.

When God shows you, you will cry.

 

[Cougarbear]

When God shows you, you will cry.

God did show you in John 1:1. I knew JWs don’t really believe the Bible is the Word of God.

 

[luiza]

These are the only 2 spots in NT where 2 beings are being called God-god in the same paragraph.-- At both spots the True God is called Ho Theos=The God--while the Word and Satan( the god of this system of things)is called Theos.- Why? God - god is why=100% fact of translating. The true God is called a different Greek word at both spots than what the Word and satan are called. The only possible difference = God - god. The only word in Greek for God or god is Theos--to show a difference from God or god when in the same paragraph the true God is called Ho Theos when in the same paragraph with god=Theos--The true God when mentioned alone in a paragraph is called Theos in many NT spots-Why? Because all know the true God is being spoken of in those spots.
Trinity translations are not only altered( removal of Gods name over 7000 places where God willed it to be.) but filled with errors by satans will to mislead all using those corrupted translations.
The above is 100% fact of life--You all better relook. Every bible scholar on earth knows its fact, they say nothing because hundreds of religions claiming to be Christian would be proven false religion, (and billions of dollars would be lost every year- this is the big reason they say nothing), and 2 billion humans would sue them for taking their money week after week when they do know their translations are corrupt.

A very strong contender for Gobbledygook Post of the Year .

When you have recovered, ask why they deliberately mistranslated "God" suggesting it was singular and not plural as always previously written .

As Mrs Fukme said
" Are we ruled by Aliens who are coming back for a second course ?"

 

[kjw47]

A very strong contender for Gobbledygook Post of the Year .

When you have recovered, ask why they deliberately mistranslated "God" suggesting it was singular and not plural as always previously written .

As Mrs Fukme said
" Are we ruled by Aliens who are coming back for a second course ?"

Its 100% fact

A very strong contender for Gobbledygook Post of the Year .

When you have recovered, ask why they deliberately mistranslated "God" suggesting it was singular and not plural as always previously written .

As Mrs Fukme said
" Are we ruled by Aliens who are coming back for a second course ?"

Sad you live in darkness. My post is 100% fact of life.

 

[Clyde 154]

These are the only 2 spots in NT where 2 beings are being called God-god in the same paragraph.-- At both spots the True God is called Ho Theos=The God--while the Word and Satan( the god of this system of things)is called Theos.- Why? God - god is why=100% fact of translating. The true God is called a different Greek word at both spots than what the Word and satan are called. The only possible difference = God - god. The only word in Greek for God or god is Theos--to show a difference from God or god when in the same paragraph the true God is called Ho Theos when in the same paragraph with god=Theos--The true God when mentioned alone in a paragraph is called Theos in many NT spots-Why? Because all know the true God is being spoken of in those spots.
Trinity translations are not only altered( removal of Gods name over 7000 places where God willed it to be.) but filled with errors by satans will to mislead all using those corrupted translations.
The above is 100% fact of life--You all better relook. Every bible scholar on earth knows its fact, they say nothing because hundreds of religions claiming to be Christian would be proven false religion, (and billions of dollars would be lost every year- this is the big reason they say nothing), and 2 billion humans would sue them for taking their money week after week when they do know their translations are corrupt.

Reply: "Who is a liar but he who that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is anitchrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosever denieth the Son, the same has not the Father: but he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also." -- 1 John 2:22-23. Thus the same inspired author you declare does not really mean that Jesus is the Son of God and thus part of the Godhead that has existed since the beginning, is the same author that declares you can't have the Father if you deny the Son...... the Godhead which is the whole that is God, consisting of 3 separate beings, the Father, The Son, and the Holy Ghost/Spirit......each separate but becoming ONE much like a husband and wife becomes ONE (Matt. 19:56)

There is One God much like a husband, wife and any offspring make up ONE FAMILY.

The Godhead is mentioned 3 times in the N.T. scriptures. (Rom. 1:20,Acts 17:29,Col.2:9).

Another false premise presented by you (Jesus Himself, "For in Him (Jesus) dwelleth the fulness of the Godhead bodily -- Col. 2:9)...........you state that there's only 2 beings mentioned as being part of the Godhead, but the scriptures describe the 3 different parts of the Godhead being present all at the same time, when Jesus was baptized by John the baptist (Matt. 3:16-17) The Father who spoke from heaven, the Spirit fell upon Jesus in the form of a Dove, and the Son, the fullness of the Godhead bodily.......were all present at the same instant of time.