What's new
US Message Board 🦅 Political Discussion Forum

Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Trump's Classified Disclosure Is Shocking But Legal

excalibur

Diamond Member
Joined
Mar 19, 2015
Messages
10,696
Reaction score
19,866
Points
2,290
Written in 2017 by liberal Harvard law professor Noah Feldman.


... The president, however, has inherent constitutional authority to declassify information at will. And that means the federal laws that criminalize the disclosure of classified secrets don’t apply to him.

...

It would be nice to say that, just as the president authorizes classification through a formal executive order, he should have to issue a similar statement to declassify. But that’s probably too formalistic. In constitutional terms, an executive order is just a presidential order reduced to writing for the benefit of the rest of the executive branch. The president likely can’t be bound by an executive order, whether his or an order from the proceeding president.

...


 
OP
excalibur

excalibur

Diamond Member
Joined
Mar 19, 2015
Messages
10,696
Reaction score
19,866
Points
2,290
 
OP
excalibur

excalibur

Diamond Member
Joined
Mar 19, 2015
Messages
10,696
Reaction score
19,866
Points
2,290
 

Lastamender

Diamond Member
Joined
Dec 28, 2011
Messages
38,432
Reaction score
31,584
Points
2,900
Clear the landing strip the paid hacks are on their way. They are not following the rule of law. They have made that more than obvious.
 
OP
excalibur

excalibur

Diamond Member
Joined
Mar 19, 2015
Messages
10,696
Reaction score
19,866
Points
2,290
They all know this is true, yet the rats in the DoJ don't care as they are fully politicide and acting as an arm of the Democratic Party.
 

Donald H

Gold Member
Joined
Nov 26, 2020
Messages
15,171
Reaction score
5,101
Points
208
The truth is, Trump stealing the documents isn't legal and he's gone to a great deal of lying in attempts to defuse his crimes.

Would anybody like to repeat for us, the lies Trump got himself caught in?
 

Marener

Gold Member
Joined
Jul 26, 2022
Messages
5,933
Reaction score
2,659
Points
163
Written in 2017 by liberal Harvard law professor Noah Feldman.


... The president, however, has inherent constitutional authority to declassify information at will. And that means the federal laws that criminalize the disclosure of classified secrets don’t apply to him.
...
It would be nice to say that, just as the president authorizes classification through a formal executive order, he should have to issue a similar statement to declassify. But that’s probably too formalistic. In constitutional terms, an executive order is just a presidential order reduced to writing for the benefit of the rest of the executive branch. The president likely can’t be bound by an executive order, whether his or an order from the proceeding president.
...


The current situation is quite a bit different than what they were dealing with in 2017.

For starters, Trump is not president.
 

Donald H

Gold Member
Joined
Nov 26, 2020
Messages
15,171
Reaction score
5,101
Points
208
The truth is, Trump stealing the documents isn't legal and he's gone to a great deal of lying in attempts to defuse his crimes.

Would anybody like to repeat for us, the lies Trump got himself caught in?
one thing though in Trump's favour is the photo in the OP that shows Trump thinking the classifications away!
 

okfine

Platinum Member
Joined
Jun 15, 2019
Messages
17,774
Reaction score
10,003
Points
1,140
Location
Gold Coast
The truth is, Trump stealing the documents isn't legal and he's gone to a great deal of lying in attempts to defuse his crimes.

Would anybody like to repeat for us, the lies Trump got himself caught in?
Why does he have to be so dishonest unless he (Trump) has something to hide? Anyone with common sense can spot that instantly.
 

Godboy

Platinum Member
Joined
Dec 29, 2008
Messages
27,952
Reaction score
12,366
Points
1,090
one thing though in Trump's favour is the photo in the OP that shows Trump thinking the classifications away!
How else does he declassify documents? As far as i can tell, there is no written procedure for which a president declassifies materials. He does not need to report to a pencil pusher who works for him to do it, nor does he need a witness to oversee the process. If I am wrong, post the official procedure.
 

TroglocratsRdumb

Diamond Member
Joined
Aug 11, 2017
Messages
28,002
Reaction score
28,336
Points
2,415
The truth is, Trump stealing the documents isn't legal and he's gone to a great deal of lying in attempts to defuse his crimes.

Would anybody like to repeat for us, the lies Trump got himself caught in?
the dems have nothing, this BS is going nowhere
 

Indeependent

Diamond Member
Joined
Nov 19, 2013
Messages
70,236
Reaction score
25,899
Points
2,250
How else does he declassify documents? As far as i can tell, there is no written procedure for which a president declassifies materials. He does not need to report to a pencil pusher who works for him to do it, nor does he need a witness to oversee the process. If I am wrong, post the official procedure.
Orange Man Bad <---- Click the Link!
 

Lastamender

Diamond Member
Joined
Dec 28, 2011
Messages
38,432
Reaction score
31,584
Points
2,900
The truth is, Trump stealing the documents isn't legal and he's gone to a great deal of lying in attempts to defuse his crimes.

Would anybody like to repeat for us, the lies Trump got himself caught in?
Why don't you worry about Castro junior?
 

Delldude

Sheep Dipped Boy Scout
Gold Supporting Member
Joined
Dec 12, 2014
Messages
8,098
Reaction score
5,211
Points
938
Location
Plasticville U.S.A
The truth is, Trump stealing the documents isn't legal and he's gone to a great deal of lying in attempts to defuse his crimes.

Would anybody like to repeat for us, the lies Trump got himself caught in?
Has it been determined He had intent for theft?

These crimes He defused, has He been convicted of any?

It's a good bet Biden is bypassing in the lying department. Biden lies to Americans just about every day. Trump didn't lie to the American people on issues that affect them.
 
OP
excalibur

excalibur

Diamond Member
Joined
Mar 19, 2015
Messages
10,696
Reaction score
19,866
Points
2,290
The current situation is quite a bit different than what they were dealing with in 2017.

For starters, Trump is not president.


The documents were declassified prior to his term expiring.
 

konradv

Diamond Member
Gold Supporting Member
Joined
Mar 23, 2010
Messages
34,975
Reaction score
9,130
Points
1,330
Location
Baltimore adjacent
Written in 2017 by liberal Harvard law professor Noah Feldman.


... The president, however, has inherent constitutional authority to declassify information at will. And that means the federal laws that criminalize the disclosure of classified secrets don’t apply to him.
...
It would be nice to say that, just as the president authorizes classification through a formal executive order, he should have to issue a similar statement to declassify. But that’s probably too formalistic. In constitutional terms, an executive order is just a presidential order reduced to writing for the benefit of the rest of the executive branch. The president likely can’t be bound by an executive order, whether his or an order from the proceeding president.
...


Theft is theft, no matter how it’s rationalized.
 

Magnus

Diamond Member
Joined
Jun 22, 2020
Messages
5,090
Reaction score
3,223
Points
1,938
Written in 2017 by liberal Harvard law professor Noah Feldman.


... The president, however, has inherent constitutional authority to declassify information at will. And that means the federal laws that criminalize the disclosure of classified secrets don’t apply to him.
...
It would be nice to say that, just as the president authorizes classification through a formal executive order, he should have to issue a similar statement to declassify. But that’s probably too formalistic. In constitutional terms, an executive order is just a presidential order reduced to writing for the benefit of the rest of the executive branch. The president likely can’t be bound by an executive order, whether his or an order from the proceeding president.
...


If it was so cut and dry, why wouldn't Trump or his lawyers present this argument in court?

The orange one and his representatives make all these bold claims all over the place...except, where it would count the most - In court!

There, they are silent. Wonder why?
 

💲 Amazon Deals 💲

Forum List

Top