The Real Zelensky

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Who told him to provoke a war with Russia? My chips are on someone in the imperial capitol on the Potomac. Why would he scrap the Minsk Protocol at the last second?

Zelensky is not the wonderful peace loving patriot Americans are told by their fake news media. The following will help you get informed.

The Man Who Sold Ukraine

By Mike Whitney
The Unz Review
March 8, 2022
Most Americans fail to realize that Zelensky’s rejection of Minsk was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Russian officials had worked for 8 years on Minsk hammering out terms that would be agreeable to all parties. Then—at the eleventh hour—Zelensky put the kibosh on the deal with a wave of the hand. Why? Who told Zelensky to scrap the agreement? Washington?

Of course.

And why did Zelensky deploy 60,000 combat troops to the area just beyond the Line of Contact (in east Ukraine) where they could lob mortal shells into the towns and villages of the ethnic Russians who lived there? Clearly, the message this sent to the people was that an invasion was imminent and that they should either flee their homes immediately or take shelter in their cellars. What objective did Zelensky hope to achieve by forcing these people to huddle in their homes in fear for their lives? And what message did he intend to send to Moscow whose leaders looked on at these developments in absolute horror?

Did he know his actions would set off alarms in Russia forcing Putin to call up his military and prepare them for a possible invasion to protect his people from– what looked to be– a massive ethnic cleansing operation?

He did.

So, how are these actions consistent with Zelensky’s campaign promises to restore national unity and peacefully resolve Ukraine’s issues with Russia?

They’re not consistent at all, they are polar opposites. In fact, Zelenskyy appears to be operating off a different script altogether. Take, for example, his complete unwillingness to address Russia’s minimal security concerns. Did Zelensky know that Putin had repeatedly said that Ukraine’s membership in NATO was a “red line” for Russia? Did he know that Putin has been saying the same thing over-and-over again since 2014? Did he know that Putin warned that if Ukraine took steps to join NATO, Russia would be forced to take “military-technical” measures to ensure their own security? Does Zelensky know that NATO is Washington-controlled Alliance that has engaged in numerous acts of aggression against other sovereign states. Here’s a short list of NATO’s accomplishments:

  1. The destruction of Yugoslavia
  2. The destruction of Afghanistan
  3. The destruction of Libya
  4. The destruction of Iraq
  5. The destruction of Syria
Does Zelensky know that NATO is openly hostile to Russia and regards Russia a serious threat to its expansionist ambitions?
The Man Who Sold Ukraine - LewRockwell
 
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Who told him to provoke a war with Russia? My chips are on someone in the imperial capitol on the Potomac. Why would he scrap the Minsk Protocol at the last second?

Zelensky is not the wonderful peace loving patriot Americans are told by their fake news media. The following will help you get informed.

The Man Who Sold Ukraine

By Mike Whitney
The Unz Review
March 8, 2022
Most Americans fail to realize that Zelensky’s rejection of Minsk was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Russian officials had worked for 8 years on Minsk hammering out terms that would be agreeable to all parties. Then—at the eleventh hour—Zelensky put the kibosh on the deal with a wave of the hand. Why? Who told Zelensky to scrap the agreement? Washington?

Of course.

And why did Zelensky deploy 60,000 combat troops to the area just beyond the Line of Contact (in east Ukraine) where they could lob mortal shells into the towns and villages of the ethnic Russians who lived there? Clearly, the message this sent to the people was that an invasion was imminent and that they should either flee their homes immediately or take shelter in their cellars. What objective did Zelensky hope to achieve by forcing these people to huddle in their homes in fear for their lives? And what message did he intend to send to Moscow whose leaders looked on at these developments in absolute horror?

Did he know his actions would set off alarms in Russia forcing Putin to call up his military and prepare them for a possible invasion to protect his people from– what looked to be– a massive ethnic cleansing operation?

He did.

So, how are these actions consistent with Zelensky’s campaign promises to restore national unity and peacefully resolve Ukraine’s issues with Russia?

They’re not consistent at all, they are polar opposites. In fact, Zelenskyy appears to be operating off a different script altogether. Take, for example, his complete unwillingness to address Russia’s minimal security concerns. Did Zelensky know that Putin had repeatedly said that Ukraine’s membership in NATO was a “red line” for Russia? Did he know that Putin has been saying the same thing over-and-over again since 2014? Did he know that Putin warned that if Ukraine took steps to join NATO, Russia would be forced to take “military-technical” measures to ensure their own security? Does Zelensky know that NATO is Washington-controlled Alliance that has engaged in numerous acts of aggression against other sovereign states. Here’s a short list of NATO’s accomplishments:


  1. The destruction of Yugoslavia
  2. The destruction of Afghanistan
  3. The destruction of Libya
  4. The destruction of Iraq
  5. The destruction of Syria
Does Zelensky know that NATO is openly hostile to Russia and regards Russia a serious threat to its expansionist ambitions?
The Man Who Sold Ukraine - LewRockwell
Yes, you've provided an article that frames the whole situation to a tee!

It all works so well doesn't it!

But you too know that the US propaganda horse is out of the barn and it's not going to be put back in.

I just don't know if it matters all that much anymore. It certainly won't matter if this ends up in nuclear war.

A more pertinent question is: Will it matter to Russia what the West's people think if Russia succeeds in defending their borders?

If the two great opposing forces in the world are formed, one side's propaganda efforts won't be of much concern to the other side. I think the formation of the two opposing great alliances, has to be the outcome. I don't accept a possibility of nuclear war. There's been far too much cooperation by both Russia and America for that to happen.

But of course it should be mentioned that America might win this war for Ukraine.
 
Sadly nobody sees past some latest MSM tear-jerking story. That bunch in Ukraine has been killing each other off in wholesale lots for many years and Zelensky was right in the middle of it.

Not that anyone remembers now but the main reason Ukraine was not admitted into NATO was the civil war going on in the eastern part of the country.
 
Sadly nobody sees past some latest MSM tear-jerking story. That bunch in Ukraine has been killing each other off in wholesale lots for many years and Zelensky was right in the middle of it.

Not that anyone remembers now but the main reason Ukraine was not admitted into NATO was the civil war going on in the eastern part of the country.
You shouldn't be so sure that nobody remembers. There's a considerable faction on this board that are making it pretty clear that they remember and fully understand most of the details.
 
You shouldn't be so sure that nobody remembers. There's a considerable faction on this board that are making it pretty clear that they remember and fully understand most of the details.
There are not many that can detach themselves and see things for what they really are.....That should really worry you too what with the commie dems and gop neocons finding them common ground for expanding the conflict.
 
Who told him to provoke a war with Russia? My chips are on someone in the imperial capitol on the Potomac. Why would he scrap the Minsk Protocol at the last second?

Zelensky is not the wonderful peace loving patriot Americans are told by their fake news media. The following will help you get informed.

The Man Who Sold Ukraine

By Mike Whitney
The Unz Review
March 8, 2022
Most Americans fail to realize that Zelensky’s rejection of Minsk was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Russian officials had worked for 8 years on Minsk hammering out terms that would be agreeable to all parties. Then—at the eleventh hour—Zelensky put the kibosh on the deal with a wave of the hand. Why? Who told Zelensky to scrap the agreement? Washington?

Of course.

And why did Zelensky deploy 60,000 combat troops to the area just beyond the Line of Contact (in east Ukraine) where they could lob mortal shells into the towns and villages of the ethnic Russians who lived there? Clearly, the message this sent to the people was that an invasion was imminent and that they should either flee their homes immediately or take shelter in their cellars. What objective did Zelensky hope to achieve by forcing these people to huddle in their homes in fear for their lives? And what message did he intend to send to Moscow whose leaders looked on at these developments in absolute horror?

Did he know his actions would set off alarms in Russia forcing Putin to call up his military and prepare them for a possible invasion to protect his people from– what looked to be– a massive ethnic cleansing operation?

He did.

So, how are these actions consistent with Zelensky’s campaign promises to restore national unity and peacefully resolve Ukraine’s issues with Russia?

They’re not consistent at all, they are polar opposites. In fact, Zelenskyy appears to be operating off a different script altogether. Take, for example, his complete unwillingness to address Russia’s minimal security concerns. Did Zelensky know that Putin had repeatedly said that Ukraine’s membership in NATO was a “red line” for Russia? Did he know that Putin has been saying the same thing over-and-over again since 2014? Did he know that Putin warned that if Ukraine took steps to join NATO, Russia would be forced to take “military-technical” measures to ensure their own security? Does Zelensky know that NATO is Washington-controlled Alliance that has engaged in numerous acts of aggression against other sovereign states. Here’s a short list of NATO’s accomplishments:


  1. The destruction of Yugoslavia
  2. The destruction of Afghanistan
  3. The destruction of Libya
  4. The destruction of Iraq
  5. The destruction of Syria
Does Zelensky know that NATO is openly hostile to Russia and regards Russia a serious threat to its expansionist ambitions?
The Man Who Sold Ukraine - LewRockwell
Try again Boris.
 
Who told him to provoke a war with Russia? My chips are on someone in the imperial capitol on the Potomac. Why would he scrap the Minsk Protocol at the last second?

Zelensky is not the wonderful peace loving patriot Americans are told by their fake news media. The following will help you get informed.

The Man Who Sold Ukraine

By Mike Whitney
The Unz Review
March 8, 2022
Most Americans fail to realize that Zelensky’s rejection of Minsk was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Russian officials had worked for 8 years on Minsk hammering out terms that would be agreeable to all parties. Then—at the eleventh hour—Zelensky put the kibosh on the deal with a wave of the hand. Why? Who told Zelensky to scrap the agreement? Washington?

Of course.

And why did Zelensky deploy 60,000 combat troops to the area just beyond the Line of Contact (in east Ukraine) where they could lob mortal shells into the towns and villages of the ethnic Russians who lived there? Clearly, the message this sent to the people was that an invasion was imminent and that they should either flee their homes immediately or take shelter in their cellars. What objective did Zelensky hope to achieve by forcing these people to huddle in their homes in fear for their lives? And what message did he intend to send to Moscow whose leaders looked on at these developments in absolute horror?

Did he know his actions would set off alarms in Russia forcing Putin to call up his military and prepare them for a possible invasion to protect his people from– what looked to be– a massive ethnic cleansing operation?

He did.

So, how are these actions consistent with Zelensky’s campaign promises to restore national unity and peacefully resolve Ukraine’s issues with Russia?

They’re not consistent at all, they are polar opposites. In fact, Zelenskyy appears to be operating off a different script altogether. Take, for example, his complete unwillingness to address Russia’s minimal security concerns. Did Zelensky know that Putin had repeatedly said that Ukraine’s membership in NATO was a “red line” for Russia? Did he know that Putin has been saying the same thing over-and-over again since 2014? Did he know that Putin warned that if Ukraine took steps to join NATO, Russia would be forced to take “military-technical” measures to ensure their own security? Does Zelensky know that NATO is Washington-controlled Alliance that has engaged in numerous acts of aggression against other sovereign states. Here’s a short list of NATO’s accomplishments:


  1. The destruction of Yugoslavia
  2. The destruction of Afghanistan
  3. The destruction of Libya
  4. The destruction of Iraq
  5. The destruction of Syria
Does Zelensky know that NATO is openly hostile to Russia and regards Russia a serious threat to its expansionist ambitions?
The Man Who Sold Ukraine - LewRockwell
Yes Zelensky is the evil man here,not Putin. Zelensky with the blessing of NATO and Obama who funded the bio labs in the ukraine,is murdering the citizens there. Russiad is not taking their shot and is blowing up their facilitys while the media is saying Russia is the one blowing up hospitals and all that bullshit when it is NATO and the thugs in the ukraine government doing it/
 
Who told him to provoke a war with Russia? My chips are on someone in the imperial capitol on the Potomac. Why would he scrap the Minsk Protocol at the last second?

Zelensky is not the wonderful peace loving patriot Americans are told by their fake news media. The following will help you get informed.

The Man Who Sold Ukraine

By Mike Whitney
The Unz Review
March 8, 2022
Most Americans fail to realize that Zelensky’s rejection of Minsk was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Russian officials had worked for 8 years on Minsk hammering out terms that would be agreeable to all parties. Then—at the eleventh hour—Zelensky put the kibosh on the deal with a wave of the hand. Why? Who told Zelensky to scrap the agreement? Washington?

Of course.

And why did Zelensky deploy 60,000 combat troops to the area just beyond the Line of Contact (in east Ukraine) where they could lob mortal shells into the towns and villages of the ethnic Russians who lived there? Clearly, the message this sent to the people was that an invasion was imminent and that they should either flee their homes immediately or take shelter in their cellars. What objective did Zelensky hope to achieve by forcing these people to huddle in their homes in fear for their lives? And what message did he intend to send to Moscow whose leaders looked on at these developments in absolute horror?

Did he know his actions would set off alarms in Russia forcing Putin to call up his military and prepare them for a possible invasion to protect his people from– what looked to be– a massive ethnic cleansing operation?

He did.

So, how are these actions consistent with Zelensky’s campaign promises to restore national unity and peacefully resolve Ukraine’s issues with Russia?

They’re not consistent at all, they are polar opposites. In fact, Zelenskyy appears to be operating off a different script altogether. Take, for example, his complete unwillingness to address Russia’s minimal security concerns. Did Zelensky know that Putin had repeatedly said that Ukraine’s membership in NATO was a “red line” for Russia? Did he know that Putin has been saying the same thing over-and-over again since 2014? Did he know that Putin warned that if Ukraine took steps to join NATO, Russia would be forced to take “military-technical” measures to ensure their own security? Does Zelensky know that NATO is Washington-controlled Alliance that has engaged in numerous acts of aggression against other sovereign states. Here’s a short list of NATO’s accomplishments:


  1. The destruction of Yugoslavia
  2. The destruction of Afghanistan
  3. The destruction of Libya
  4. The destruction of Iraq
  5. The destruction of Syria
Does Zelensky know that NATO is openly hostile to Russia and regards Russia a serious threat to its expansionist ambitions?
The Man Who Sold Ukraine - LewRockwell
Russia has a 150,000 force plus-----60,000 ukrainain soldiers couldn't stop them. The millions living in Ukraine may..
 
Yes, you've provided an article that frames the whole situation to a tee!

It all works so well doesn't it!

But you too know that the US propaganda horse is out of the barn and it's not going to be put back in.

I just don't know if it matters all that much anymore. It certainly won't matter if this ends up in nuclear war.

A more pertinent question is: Will it matter to Russia what the West's people think if Russia succeeds in defending their borders?

If the two great opposing forces in the world are formed, one side's propaganda efforts won't be of much concern to the other side. I think the formation of the two opposing great alliances, has to be the outcome. I don't accept a possibility of nuclear war. There's been far too much cooperation by both Russia and America for that to happen.

But of course it should be mentioned that America might win this war for Ukraine.
Hey fool the UNZ Report is a Russian Propaganda rag.
 
Who told him to provoke a war with Russia? My chips are on someone in the imperial capitol on the Potomac. Why would he scrap the Minsk Protocol at the last second?

Zelensky is not the wonderful peace loving patriot Americans are told by their fake news media. The following will help you get informed.

The Man Who Sold Ukraine

By Mike Whitney
The Unz Review
March 8, 2022
Most Americans fail to realize that Zelensky’s rejection of Minsk was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Russian officials had worked for 8 years on Minsk hammering out terms that would be agreeable to all parties. Then—at the eleventh hour—Zelensky put the kibosh on the deal with a wave of the hand. Why? Who told Zelensky to scrap the agreement? Washington?

Of course.

And why did Zelensky deploy 60,000 combat troops to the area just beyond the Line of Contact (in east Ukraine) where they could lob mortal shells into the towns and villages of the ethnic Russians who lived there? Clearly, the message this sent to the people was that an invasion was imminent and that they should either flee their homes immediately or take shelter in their cellars. What objective did Zelensky hope to achieve by forcing these people to huddle in their homes in fear for their lives? And what message did he intend to send to Moscow whose leaders looked on at these developments in absolute horror?

Did he know his actions would set off alarms in Russia forcing Putin to call up his military and prepare them for a possible invasion to protect his people from– what looked to be– a massive ethnic cleansing operation?

He did.

So, how are these actions consistent with Zelensky’s campaign promises to restore national unity and peacefully resolve Ukraine’s issues with Russia?

They’re not consistent at all, they are polar opposites. In fact, Zelenskyy appears to be operating off a different script altogether. Take, for example, his complete unwillingness to address Russia’s minimal security concerns. Did Zelensky know that Putin had repeatedly said that Ukraine’s membership in NATO was a “red line” for Russia? Did he know that Putin has been saying the same thing over-and-over again since 2014? Did he know that Putin warned that if Ukraine took steps to join NATO, Russia would be forced to take “military-technical” measures to ensure their own security? Does Zelensky know that NATO is Washington-controlled Alliance that has engaged in numerous acts of aggression against other sovereign states. Here’s a short list of NATO’s accomplishments:


  1. The destruction of Yugoslavia
  2. The destruction of Afghanistan
  3. The destruction of Libya
  4. The destruction of Iraq
  5. The destruction of Syria
Does Zelensky know that NATO is openly hostile to Russia and regards Russia a serious threat to its expansionist ambitions?
The Man Who Sold Ukraine - LewRockwell

That's the problem with you conspiracy believing retarded losers.

You believe anything, no matter how retarded and anti-American.
 
Yes Zelensky is the evil man here,not Putin. Zelensky with the blessing of NATO and Obama who funded the bio labs in the ukraine,is murdering the citizens there. Russiad is not taking their shot and is blowing up their facilitys while the media is saying Russia is the one blowing up hospitals and all that bullshit when it is NATO and the thugs in the ukraine government doing it/

Lies lies lies lies.

That's all you post LA RAIN MAN.
 

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