The United Healthcare CEO assassination...what's next?

[pbmdel]

It's like...
The people: Those big no-good crooked health insurance companies!
Trump & Co.: Medicare sucks...get rid of it. Privatize all health insurance. They know how to do things right.
Insurance companies: Great, bring it on. Look at how much more money we'll make for us, and our stockholders.
Ok, folks, which way do you want it?

 

[Anathema]

I’m on the side of private health insurance all the way. It’s not a perfect solution, but it’s far better than giving the Government more money and control of our lives.

 

[Zincwarrior]

It's like...
The people: Those big no-good crooked health insurance companies!
Trump & Co.: Medicare sucks...get rid of it. Privatize all health insurance. They know how to do things right.
Insurance companies: Great, bring it on. Look at how much more money we'll make for us, and our stockholders.
Ok, folks, which way do you want it?

Whats 100 billionaires at the bottom of the lake?
A good start!

 

[Orangecat]

Insurance companies: Great, bring it on.

Probably still pissed the republicans killed the individual mandate.

 

[Orangecat]

Whats 100 billionaires at the bottom of the lake?
A good start!

Why do you dislike billionaires?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Why do you dislike billionaires?

I dislike all thieves.

 

[Orangecat]

I dislike all thieves.

Certainly you’re not making the logical fallacy that all billionaires are thieves, right?

 

[elektra]

Whats 100 billionaires at the bottom of the lake?
A good start!

The 8 out of the first ten are democrats.

We can add Larry Fink and say 9 out of 10 are democrats

 

[elektra]

The CEO was a Democrat. Donated to Kamala

 

[luiza]

See Clif's meta -data forecasts .

Build up and tension release figures are off the scale.
Up to thirteen times greater than 9/11.
Which, incidentally , his data forecast ( publicly) several weeks beforehand .

It's violence and down hill for some time from now on.
Oh Happy Days .

So kill one every day
And keep Anger at bay .

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

I’m on the side of private health insurance all the way. It’s not a perfect solution, but it’s far better than giving the Government more money and control of our lives.

Sure beats having corporations rule your life.

www.healthcaredive.com · news · medicare-advantageSenate report slams Medicare Advantage insurers for using ...​

• A new Senate report sharply criticizes the country’s three largest Medicare Advantage insurers — UnitedHealthcare, Humana and CVS — for allegedly limiting access to post-acute care to maximize profits.
• The insurers leveraged algorithmic tools to sharply increase claims denials for MA beneficiaries between 2019 and 2022, according to the report published Thursday by the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations. They most often denied coverage to patients in nursing homes, inpatient rehab hospitals and long-term hospitals, the report found.
• MA payers have previously come under fire from lawmakers for using algorithms to determine coverage. UnitedHealth and Humana have also been sued for denying MA beneficiaries care using the technology.

Republicans want to privatize EVERYTHING...........For profit........CEO's profit.

 

[Anathema]

Sure beats having corporations rule your life.

(edited for brevity)​

Republicans want to privatize EVERYTHING...........For profit........CEO's profit.

I disagree. I trust the private companies far more than I trust the Government. I don’t trust them much, but more than the 0% that I trust the Government.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

I disagree. I trust the private companies far more than I trust the Government. I don’t trust them much, but more than the 0% that I trust the Government.

So.....................Who will you call when YOU'RE claim/procedure/prescription is denied?
Walmart?

 

[Anathema]

So.....................Who will you call when YOU'RE claim/procedure/prescription is denied?
Walmart?

I die. Pure and simple. Thsts always been the plan if/when I have to retire and lose private healthcare.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

I die. Pure and simple. Thsts always been the plan if/when I have to retire and lose private healthcare.

What if the claim was for your wife or kid?
What if your claim is before you retire?

Analysis: Health insurance claim denials are on the rise, to ...​

PBS
https://www.pbs.org › newshour › analysis-health-insur...
May 28, 2023 — One insurer denied 49% of claims in 2021; another's turndowns hit an astonishing 80% in 2020. Despite the potentially dire impact that denials ...

Millions of Americans in the past few years have run into this experience: filing a health care insurance claim that once might have been paid immediately but instead is just as quickly denied.

If the experience and the insurer’s explanation often seem arbitrary and absurd, that might be because companies appear increasingly likely to employ computer algorithms or people with little relevant experience to issue rapid-fire denials of claims — sometimes bundles at a time — without reviewing the patient’s medical chart. A job title at one company was “denial nurse.”

 

[Anathema]

What if the claim was for your wife or kid?
What if your claim is before you retire?

My wife is onboard with it. We talked about it when we got her OFF Medicare (she’s on SSDI) and onto my employer insurance a decade ago when we got married. No kids, thankfully.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

My wife is onboard with it. We talked about it when we got her OFF Medicare (she’s on SSDI) and onto my employer insurance a decade ago when we got married. No kids, thankfully.

So.................You're paying a lot of $$$ for coverage, the IF you or your wife have an issue, then are declined?
You're fine with that?

 

[Anathema]

So.................You're paying a lot of $$$ for coverage, the IF you or your wife have an issue, then are declined?
You're fine with that?

That’s the way it works. We’re not paying all that much for pretty decent coverage at this point. It is what it is.

I still cannot find ANY mandate or grant of powers in the US Constitution which gives the Government a role in medical care or insurance, never mind the combination of the two.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

That’s the way it works. We’re not paying all that much for pretty decent coverage at this point. It is what it is.

I still cannot find ANY mandate or grant of powers in the US Constitution which gives the Government a role in medical care or insurance, never mind the combination of the two.

It isn't IN the constitution.
It was an act signed in 1965.

There are plenty of acts signed into law, NOT in the constitution.

 

[Anathema]

It isn't IN the constitution.
It was an act signed in 1965.

There are plenty of acts signed into law, NOT in the constitution.

Yes there are… and I believe they should all be voided. Article I, Section 8 lays out seventeen SPECIFIC powers for Congress to legislate and authorize money for. Anything not in that list belongs to the States. I’m still not finding medical issues or insurance in that list of powers.