Zelensky Stuns Allies by Demanding Either NATO Membership or Nuclear Weapons

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He's a madman, a mad midget.

The West has hitched its wagon to this loon. Of course, the money-laundering is the real reason so many in the West are shoveling money and weapons to this absurd man, to this lunatic.

Now, this insanity on top of everything else.

And those so-called Ukrainian nukes were actually Russian nukes that the dumbass Russians left behind.



Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, having received a lackluster response when he pitched his ‘victory plan’ to US officials in Washington last month, now says that Ukraine must either join NATO or obtain nuclear weapons.

He made the ultra provocative comments while speaking before the EU’s European Council in Brussels, where he presented the victory plan before European lawmakers. That’s when he referenced a recent private conversation with Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, saying he told Trump that his country needs “some kind of alliance” or be “forced to pursue nuclear weapons.”

“In a conversation with Donald Trump I said – this is our situation: What way out do we have? Either Ukraine will have nuclear weapons, which for us will be a defense, or we’ll need to have some sort of alliance, besides NATO. But today we know of no other alliance,” Zelensky said.

“NATO countries today are not at war. NATO countries are not fighting. In NATO countries people are still alive. Thank God. That is why we choose NATO, not nuclear weapons. And Donald Trump heard me. He said you have a just argument,” he continued.

At one point in these comments he referenced this historic Budapest Memorandum, a 1994 agreement where Ukraine agreed to give up its nuclear arsenal from Soviet times in exchange for security guarantees from Russia, the US, and UK.

He also emphasized in a rhetorical question, “Which nuclear states suffered? None except Ukraine… Who gave up their nuclear weapons? All of them? No. Only Ukraine… Who is fighting today? Ukraine.”

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He is in a difficult position, we shouldn't take any joy in his struggles.

I think he should have kept in place and listened to his former general. He was warned that they needed more men and it was not a convenient fact to be told so he was replaced.

Well, I hear repeatedly by British, French and German citizens who understand the war more closely that this lack of manpower is in fact their biggest hurdle.
 
This is how a technical dispute (i.e., NATO membership) can turn into a big war.
 

Zelensky Stuns Allies by Demanding Either NATO Membership or Nuclear Weapons​


How about neither. I'm starting to just like the idea that Putin gets it over with, stuffs and mounts this guy's head on his wall and we get this war over with.

It would have been over 2.5 years ago had Biden just kept his nose out of it.
 
If he was to ask really nice, and say "pretty please", I am sure Putin would send him one.....
 
Actually, Ukraine was a major nuclear power after the breakup of the Soviet Union, and they gave their nukes up for a guarantee that we would help them defend their territory.



Then the Kenyan sat back and let Russia take Crimea, and Biden will only send cash and outdated versions of weapons. Other than that, the Ukrainians are on their own!

This is just another example of why you should NEVER TRUST A DEMOCRAT!!!
 
How about neither. I'm starting to just like the idea that Putin gets it over with, stuffs and mounts this guy's head on his wall and we get this war over with.

It would have been over 2.5 years ago had Biden just kept his nose out of it.


Biden and Boris Johnson put the kibosh on a settlement. Two very stupid and evil men.
 
He's a madman, a mad midget.

The West has hitched its wagon to this loon. Of course, the money-laundering is the real reason so many in the West are shoveling money and weapons to this absurd man, to this lunatic.

Now, this insanity on top of everything else.

And those so-called Ukrainian nukes were actually Russian nukes that the dumbass Russians left behind.


Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, having received a lackluster response when he pitched his ‘victory plan’ to US officials in Washington last month, now says that Ukraine must either join NATO or obtain nuclear weapons.​
He made the ultra provocative comments while speaking before the EU’s European Council in Brussels, where he presented the victory plan before European lawmakers. That’s when he referenced a recent private conversation with Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, saying he told Trump that his country needs “some kind of alliance” or be “forced to pursue nuclear weapons.”​
“In a conversation with Donald Trump I said – this is our situation: What way out do we have? Either Ukraine will have nuclear weapons, which for us will be a defense, or we’ll need to have some sort of alliance, besides NATO. But today we know of no other alliance,” Zelensky said.​
“NATO countries today are not at war. NATO countries are not fighting. In NATO countries people are still alive. Thank God. That is why we choose NATO, not nuclear weapons. And Donald Trump heard me. He said you have a just argument,” he continued.​
At one point in these comments he referenced this historic Budapest Memorandum, a 1994 agreement where Ukraine agreed to give up its nuclear arsenal from Soviet times in exchange for security guarantees from Russia, the US, and UK.​
He also emphasized in a rhetorical question, “Which nuclear states suffered? None except Ukraine… Who gave up their nuclear weapons? All of them? No. Only Ukraine… Who is fighting today? Ukraine.”​
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Fuck that faggot.
 
Fuck that faggot.

He would like that.

Arestovych - Zelenskyy meme.jpg
 
You don't have to be that old to remember the anti-nuke demonstrations which were part of the anti-war movement of the 60's and 70's. Fast forward forty five years or so and the anti war traitors who fled to Canada to avoid the draft and the anti nuke lefties are part of the Biden administration and nuclear war seems to be a viable consideration of a mentally impaired administration. Jan 20 can't come soon enough.
 

That silly motherfucker doesn't care if a hundred thousand Americans had to spill their blood to defend his corrupt little shithole of a country against Russia, another corrupt shithole of a country.

I'm about fed up with the both of them, as well as Europe. That whole continent has been nothing but a breeding ground for toxic regimes, wars, and the draining of American blood for as long as we've been a nation.

Fuck them and their petty little problems.
 
The arguments based on the Budapest Memorandum are invalidated by Ukraine’s failure to uphold the Minsk agreements. That whole line of thinking is beyond faulty and fodder for the foolish.
 
Lesson learn here for every country. When a more powerful country asks a less powerful country to give up nukes in exchange for protection, give that powerful country the finger.
 
He's a madman, a mad midget.

The West has hitched its wagon to this loon. Of course, the money-laundering is the real reason so many in the West are shoveling money and weapons to this absurd man, to this lunatic.

Now, this insanity on top of everything else.

And those so-called Ukrainian nukes were actually Russian nukes that the dumbass Russians left behind.


Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, having received a lackluster response when he pitched his ‘victory plan’ to US officials in Washington last month, now says that Ukraine must either join NATO or obtain nuclear weapons.​
He made the ultra provocative comments while speaking before the EU’s European Council in Brussels, where he presented the victory plan before European lawmakers. That’s when he referenced a recent private conversation with Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, saying he told Trump that his country needs “some kind of alliance” or be “forced to pursue nuclear weapons.”​
“In a conversation with Donald Trump I said – this is our situation: What way out do we have? Either Ukraine will have nuclear weapons, which for us will be a defense, or we’ll need to have some sort of alliance, besides NATO. But today we know of no other alliance,” Zelensky said.​
“NATO countries today are not at war. NATO countries are not fighting. In NATO countries people are still alive. Thank God. That is why we choose NATO, not nuclear weapons. And Donald Trump heard me. He said you have a just argument,” he continued.​
At one point in these comments he referenced this historic Budapest Memorandum, a 1994 agreement where Ukraine agreed to give up its nuclear arsenal from Soviet times in exchange for security guarantees from Russia, the US, and UK.​
He also emphasized in a rhetorical question, “Which nuclear states suffered? None except Ukraine… Who gave up their nuclear weapons? All of them? No. Only Ukraine… Who is fighting today? Ukraine.”​
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#MAGALIES
 
That silly motherfucker doesn't care if a hundred thousand Americans had to spill their blood to defend his corrupt little shithole of a country against Russia, another corrupt shithole of a country.

I'm about fed up with the both of them, as well as Europe. That whole continent has been nothing but a breeding ground for toxic regimes, wars, and the draining of American blood for as long as we've been a nation.

Fuck them and their petty little problems.
Great. When will you pack your stuff and leave for your shores?
 

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