Socialism sucks! (Virus hits). Socialism save us!!

[Cecilie1200]

Yeah, getting rid of all the rich white Cubans must have really raised the standard of living for the remaining poor dark Cubans......no, it didn't. Weird. Moron.

Your hero?

Pussy.

Batista has been out of power for over 60 years, how's Cuba's economy.....today?

Still being attacked, sanctioned, undermined and destabilized by the US like many others.

Awww, poor commie Cuba.

They'd be a paradise if only 1 more country had traded with them, eh?

You're aware your predatory healthcare system seeks partnerships with Cuba on its leading cancer research?

How is your economy today? Enjoying the empty shelves and socialist bailouts of your "capitalist" aristocracy again?

Only you and fools like you are looking at this situation and saying, "See, it's the capitalism that's causing everything to suck! We need socialism to fill the shelves!"

And for the 165116 time, temporary assistance during an emergency is NOT SOCIALISM. You can try to insist that everything that isn't anarchy is socialism until your face falls off; won't make it true.

 

[Cecilie1200]

conservatives and libertarian don't think tax payers should subsidize stock or CEOs And???????????

Conservatives and libertarians are capitalists, not crony capitalists. And???????????

The Libertarian Delusion

"The stubborn appeal of the libertarian idea persists, despite mountains of evidence that the free market is neither efficient, nor fair, nor free from periodic catastrophe.

"In an Adam Smith world, the interplay of supply and demand yields a price that signals producers what to make and investors where to put their capital.

"The more that government interferes with this sublime discipline, the more bureaucrats deflect the market from its true path."

"The stubborn appeal of the libertarian idea persists, despite mountains of evidence that the free market is neither efficient, nor fair, nor free from periodic catastrophe

Funny quote, posted by a moron who thinks the commies were ever more efficient, more fair, or free from periodic, or constant, catastrophe.

How do you feel about your Intelligence Committee members who withheld from the public that this pandemic was coming until they could get their predatory donors informed and wrap up their insider trading?

The all-powerful government is at it again.

Government is the problem.

.

,
No, you are cucked to concentrated wealth and the entire system runs upon corruption.

As opposed to China, Venezuela, Cuba, and the former Soviet Union (to name but a few) who were all altruistic and pure as the driven snow, right?

 

[Cecilie1200]

The Libertarian Delusion

"The stubborn appeal of the libertarian idea persists, despite mountains of evidence that the free market is neither efficient, nor fair, nor free from periodic catastrophe.

"In an Adam Smith world, the interplay of supply and demand yields a price that signals producers what to make and investors where to put their capital.

"The more that government interferes with this sublime discipline, the more bureaucrats deflect the market from its true path."

"The stubborn appeal of the libertarian idea persists, despite mountains of evidence that the free market is neither efficient, nor fair, nor free from periodic catastrophe

Funny quote, posted by a moron who thinks the commies were ever more efficient, more fair, or free from periodic, or constant, catastrophe.

How do you feel about your Intelligence Committee members who withheld from the public that this pandemic was coming until they could get their predatory donors informed and wrap up their insider trading?

The all-powerful government is at it again.

Government is the problem.

.

,
No, you are cucked to concentrated wealth and the entire system runs upon corruption.

No, you are cucked to concentrated wealth and the entire system runs upon corruption.

How much is Putin worth?

Is it in the neighborhood of your Intelligence Committee senators or Don and the administration members who withheld from the American people that the pandemic was coming for weeks while they informed the donor class and got their insider trading wrapped up?

My, my, my, aren't YOU just expanding and tailoring the story to fit your own agenda? Certainly no reason HERE to look at you as a blindered, partisan hack who should be scorned by sane people. No sir.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The Libertarian Delusion

"The stubborn appeal of the libertarian idea persists, despite mountains of evidence that the free market is neither efficient, nor fair, nor free from periodic catastrophe.

"In an Adam Smith world, the interplay of supply and demand yields a price that signals producers what to make and investors where to put their capital.

"The more that government interferes with this sublime discipline, the more bureaucrats deflect the market from its true path."

"The stubborn appeal of the libertarian idea persists, despite mountains of evidence that the free market is neither efficient, nor fair, nor free from periodic catastrophe

Funny quote, posted by a moron who thinks the commies were ever more efficient, more fair, or free from periodic, or constant, catastrophe.

How do you feel about your Intelligence Committee members who withheld from the public that this pandemic was coming until they could get their predatory donors informed and wrap up their insider trading?

The all-powerful government is at it again.

Government is the problem.

.

,
No, you are cucked to concentrated wealth and the entire system runs upon corruption.

Shut your fucking commie mouth.

You obviously know jack shit. You should find a good commie refuge and get the fuck out of here.

Who outsourced capitalist jobs to communists? Who outsourced production/manufacturing capacity/capability we don't have now in this crisis to communists? Who participated in the consumption of these communist produced goods?

Why that would be American capitalists.

Do you see why "capitalism" in America is a ruse now? Your "capitalist" system is turning once again to socialism as it always does when it crashes.

No, I'm afraid that no one here who isn't deliberately trying to view everything as "See why socialism is WONDERFUL?!" is seeing that socialism is wonderful.

Engaging in business transactions with people who live in a communist country does not make US socialists, nor does it make capitalism bad. Nothing about the economic system that is capitalism requires us to shun and isolate socialist/communist nations and their people. To the contrary, spreading capitalistic concepts and attitudes through financial dealings does those countries a lot of good.

And we are in no way "turning to socialism" for jack shit in this emergency, no matter HOW many times you trumpet about "Aha! Government functions equal SOCIALISM! They do, they do, they do!"

 

[Cecilie1200]

Yeah, getting rid of all the rich white Cubans must have really raised the standard of living for the remaining poor dark Cubans......no, it didn't. Weird. Moron.

Your hero?

Pussy.

Batista has been out of power for over 60 years, how's Cuba's economy.....today?

Still being attacked, sanctioned, undermined and destabilized by the US like many others.

And what did we accomplish with all of that? Nothing.

Well we missed out on some pioneering cancer research for a while, but we're doing some partnering with them now on that. They also have anti-virals, as does Japan, that showed efficacy in China's COVID-19 response.

Going forward what our economic warfare on places like Cuba, Iran, Venezuela, et.al. does for us is make us war criminals guilty of crimes against humanity per the Nuremberg Judgements given the pandemic.

But this is America, who cares?

The irony is lost on no one but fools like you that you are wholly dependent on America NOT being the evil country you say it is in order for you to be able to say it.

 

[Bo Didleysquat]

conservatives and libertarian don't think tax payers should subsidize stock or CEOs And???????????

Conservatives and libertarians are capitalists, not crony capitalists. And???????????

The Libertarian Delusion

"The stubborn appeal of the libertarian idea persists, despite mountains of evidence that the free market is neither efficient, nor fair, nor free from periodic catastrophe.

"In an Adam Smith world, the interplay of supply and demand yields a price that signals producers what to make and investors where to put their capital.

"The more that government interferes with this sublime discipline, the more bureaucrats deflect the market from its true path."

"The stubborn appeal of the libertarian idea persists, despite mountains of evidence that the free market is neither efficient, nor fair, nor free from periodic catastrophe

Funny quote, posted by a moron who thinks the commies were ever more efficient, more fair, or free from periodic, or constant, catastrophe.

How do you feel about your Intelligence Committee members who withheld from the public that this pandemic was coming until they could get their predatory donors informed and wrap up their insider trading?

The all-powerful government is at it again.

Government is the problem.

.

,
No, you are cucked to concentrated wealth and the entire system runs upon corruption.

As opposed to China, Venezuela, Cuba, and the former Soviet Union (to name but a few) who were all altruistic and pure as the driven snow, right?

If you can locate a post where I assert anything like that please produce it. What you've done here is agree and then claim but everyone else does it too. With respect to Venezuela and Cuba, our hissyfits with both those nations were that they tossed out US capital/corporate interests in their own nations and we've waged economic warfare and destabilizations ever since against both in an effort to topple their governments. We have also repeatedly tried to assassinate their leaders. With respect to China, who outsourced American jobs as well as our manufacturing/production capacity/capability to communists? That would be American capitalists. As for the former Soviet Union where our "successful" equals their "oligarch", as you suggest, we have much in common in terms of the authoritarianism involved.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Funny quote, posted by a moron who thinks the commies were ever more efficient, more fair, or free from periodic, or constant, catastrophe.

Capitalist cranks think markets can price costs borne by third parties

The Libertarian Delusion

"The price of carbon-based energy is 'correct'-it reflects what consumers will pay and what producers can supply-if you leave out the fact that carbon is destroying a livable planet.

"Markets are not competent to price this problem.

"Only governments can do that. In formal economics, this anomaly is described by the bloodless word 'externality'-meaning costs (or benefits) external to the immediate transaction.

"Libertarian economists treat externalities as minor exceptions."

Why don't you post a supply/demand curve under communism?

if you leave out the fact that carbon is destroying a livable planet.

Hilarious!

How do you price carbon-based energy under communism?

"Markets are not competent to price this problem.

"Only governments can do that.

North Korea doesn't produce much CO2. I guess they priced coal correctly.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield, and government to gain ground.
~Thomas Jefferson

.

That is one of my favorite fake Jefferson quotes!
Almost as good as his quote about the internet.

 

[Bo Didleysquat]

Yeah, getting rid of all the rich white Cubans must have really raised the standard of living for the remaining poor dark Cubans......no, it didn't. Weird. Moron.

Your hero?

Pussy.

Batista has been out of power for over 60 years, how's Cuba's economy.....today?

Still being attacked, sanctioned, undermined and destabilized by the US like many others.

And what did we accomplish with all of that? Nothing.

Well we missed out on some pioneering cancer research for a while, but we're doing some partnering with them now on that. They also have anti-virals, as does Japan, that showed efficacy in China's COVID-19 response.

Going forward what our economic warfare on places like Cuba, Iran, Venezuela, et.al. does for us is make us war criminals guilty of crimes against humanity per the Nuremberg Judgements given the pandemic.

But this is America, who cares?

The irony is lost on no one but fools like you that you are wholly dependent on America NOT being the evil country you say it is in order for you to be able to say it.

And just look at you come unglued to hear it.

 

[Bo Didleysquat]

The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield, and government to gain ground.
~Thomas Jefferson

.

That is one of my favorite fake Jefferson quotes!
Almost as good as his quote about the internet.

Another rapist president.

 

[francoHFW]

Did y’all catch Trumps presser ? Whole lotta commie socialist talk going on. Tests for everyone ? Bailouts ? Billion dollar aid packages ?!?


When push comes to shove , socialist type programs ain’t so bad . Or should we rely on capitalism alone to save us with price gouging?

The ones screaming for socialism are the Dems- not the right. Trying to push through socializing medicine now rather than taking care of their constituents.

Socializing medicine is taking care of your constituents dumbass dupe. And none of your socialism is communism crap. Communism is a dictatorship that owns all business and industry because you need a dictatorship to keep the people down. Socialism by definition has some democracy.the USSR claimed to be socialist because there was supposed to be democracy in the Soviets or committees. Did not happen. Canada is socialist every rich country in the world is socialist but us because we don't have healthcare at least. Thanks to the GOP the scumbags and silly dupes like you.
"He has also defined Soviet communism as 'fake socialism', particularly because any socialism worthy of the name requires authentic democratic control of production and resources as well as public ownership.

 

[Bo Didleysquat]

The Libertarian Delusion

"The stubborn appeal of the libertarian idea persists, despite mountains of evidence that the free market is neither efficient, nor fair, nor free from periodic catastrophe.

"In an Adam Smith world, the interplay of supply and demand yields a price that signals producers what to make and investors where to put their capital.

"The more that government interferes with this sublime discipline, the more bureaucrats deflect the market from its true path."

"The stubborn appeal of the libertarian idea persists, despite mountains of evidence that the free market is neither efficient, nor fair, nor free from periodic catastrophe

Funny quote, posted by a moron who thinks the commies were ever more efficient, more fair, or free from periodic, or constant, catastrophe.

How do you feel about your Intelligence Committee members who withheld from the public that this pandemic was coming until they could get their predatory donors informed and wrap up their insider trading?

The all-powerful government is at it again.

Government is the problem.

.

,
No, you are cucked to concentrated wealth and the entire system runs upon corruption.

Shut your fucking commie mouth.

You obviously know jack shit. You should find a good commie refuge and get the fuck out of here.

Who outsourced capitalist jobs to communists? Who outsourced production/manufacturing capacity/capability we don't have now in this crisis to communists? Who participated in the consumption of these communist produced goods?

Why that would be American capitalists.

Do you see why "capitalism" in America is a ruse now? Your "capitalist" system is turning once again to socialism as it always does when it crashes.

No, I'm afraid that no one here who isn't deliberately trying to view everything as "See why socialism is WONDERFUL?!" is seeing that socialism is wonderful.

Engaging in business transactions with people who live in a communist country does not make US socialists, nor does it make capitalism bad. Nothing about the economic system that is capitalism requires us to shun and isolate socialist/communist nations and their people. To the contrary, spreading capitalistic concepts and attitudes through financial dealings does those countries a lot of good.

And we are in no way "turning to socialism" for jack shit in this emergency, no matter HOW many times you trumpet about "Aha! Government functions equal SOCIALISM! They do, they do, they do!"

Who outsourced capitalist jobs to communists? Who outsourced production/manufacturing capacity/capability we don't have now in this crisis to communists? Who participated in the consumption of these communist produced goods?

Why that would be American capitalists.

 

[depotoo]

Did y’all catch Trumps presser ? Whole lotta commie socialist talk going on. Tests for everyone ? Bailouts ? Billion dollar aid packages ?!?


When push comes to shove , socialist type programs ain’t so bad . Or should we rely on capitalism alone to save us with price gouging?

The ones screaming for socialism are the Dems- not the right. Trying to push through socializing medicine now rather than taking care of their constituents.

Socializing medicine is taking care of your constituents dumbass dupe. And none of your socialism is communism crap. Communism is a dictatorship that owns all business and industry because you need a dictatorship to keep the people down. Socialism by definition has some democracy.the USSR claimed to be socialist because there was supposed to be democracy in the Soviets or committees. Did not happen. Canada is socialist every rich country in the world is socialist but us because we don't have healthcare at least. Thanks to the GOP the scumbags and silly dupes like you.
"He has also defined Soviet communism as 'fake socialism', particularly because any socialism worthy of the name requires authentic democratic control of production and resources as well as public ownership.

Only in your small world. We can revisit that topic after this pandemic is done and see how it fairs in those countries where it is. By the way, many of those country’s have now returned some control to private industry, as it has been failing.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You're the one doing the play-by-play analysis.

dodging and running?? This is what we expect from a libcommie

While you engage in what you decry? What happened to your capitalist society? Little shaky?

And we STILL aren't engaging in "socialism", no matter how many times you try to claim any and every government function as "Socialist! See how GREAT it is?!"

 

[Bo Didleysquat]

Did y’all catch Trumps presser ? Whole lotta commie socialist talk going on. Tests for everyone ? Bailouts ? Billion dollar aid packages ?!?


When push comes to shove , socialist type programs ain’t so bad . Or should we rely on capitalism alone to save us with price gouging?

The ones screaming for socialism are the Dems- not the right. Trying to push through socializing medicine now rather than taking care of their constituents.

Socializing medicine is taking care of your constituents dumbass dupe. And none of your socialism is communism crap. Communism is a dictatorship that owns all business and industry because you need a dictatorship to keep the people down. Socialism by definition has some democracy.the USSR claimed to be socialist because there was supposed to be democracy in the Soviets or committees. Did not happen. Canada is socialist every rich country in the world is socialist but us because we don't have healthcare at least. Thanks to the GOP the scumbags and silly dupes like you.
"He has also defined Soviet communism as 'fake socialism', particularly because any socialism worthy of the name requires authentic democratic control of production and resources as well as public ownership.

Only in your small world. We can revisit that topic after this pandemic is done and see how it fairs in those countries where it is. By the way, many of those country’s have now returned some control to private industry, as it has been failing.

Have you noticed you do not live in a capitalist society? Capital will be bailed out yet again with socialism.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The Libertarian Delusion

"The stubborn appeal of the libertarian idea persists, despite mountains of evidence that the free market is neither efficient, nor fair, nor free from periodic catastrophe.

"In an Adam Smith world, the interplay of supply and demand yields a price that signals producers what to make and investors where to put their capital.

"The more that government interferes with this sublime discipline, the more bureaucrats deflect the market from its true path."

"The stubborn appeal of the libertarian idea persists, despite mountains of evidence that the free market is neither efficient, nor fair, nor free from periodic catastrophe

Funny quote, posted by a moron who thinks the commies were ever more efficient, more fair, or free from periodic, or constant, catastrophe.

How do you feel about your Intelligence Committee members who withheld from the public that this pandemic was coming until they could get their predatory donors informed and wrap up their insider trading?

The all-powerful government is at it again.

Government is the problem.

.

,
No, you are cucked to concentrated wealth and the entire system runs upon corruption.

Shut your fucking commie mouth.

You obviously know jack shit. You should find a good commie refuge and get the fuck out of here.

Who outsourced capitalist jobs to communists? Who outsourced production/manufacturing capacity/capability we don't have now in this crisis to communists? Who participated in the consumption of these communist produced goods?

Why that would be American capitalists.

Do you see why "capitalism" in America is a ruse now? Your "capitalist" system is turning once again to socialism as it always does when it crashes.

No, I'm afraid that no one here who isn't deliberately trying to view everything as "See why socialism is WONDERFUL?!" is seeing that socialism is wonderful.

Engaging in business transactions with people who live in a communist country does not make US socialists, nor does it make capitalism bad. Nothing about the economic system that is capitalism requires us to shun and isolate socialist/communist nations and their people. To the contrary, spreading capitalistic concepts and attitudes through financial dealings does those countries a lot of good.

And we are in no way "turning to socialism" for jack shit in this emergency, no matter HOW many times you trumpet about "Aha! Government functions equal SOCIALISM! They do, they do, they do!"

Who outsourced capitalist jobs to communists? Who outsourced production/manufacturing capacity/capability we don't have now in this crisis to communists? Who participated in the consumption of these communist produced goods?

Why that would be American capitalists.

"I'm just SURE that if I ignore the response and re-assert my position, THIS time it will magically become true!"

 

[Bo Didleysquat]

You're the one doing the play-by-play analysis.

dodging and running?? This is what we expect from a libcommie

While you engage in what you decry? What happened to your capitalist society? Little shaky?

And we STILL aren't engaging in "socialism", no matter how many times you try to claim any and every government function as "Socialist! See how GREAT it is?!"

Call it anything you like. What the entire world knows is your "capitalists" outsourced " capitalist jobs as well as production/manufacturing capacity/capability to communist workers and countries to avoid paying capitalist workers capitalist wages which ostensibly leads to a greater quality of life for those workers. Then the communist produced goods were/are sold back to the workers whose livelihoods were outsourced so that capital could/can enhance profit margin growth. It is what it is regardless of what we gaslightingly label it.

 

[Bo Didleysquat]

The Libertarian Delusion

"The stubborn appeal of the libertarian idea persists, despite mountains of evidence that the free market is neither efficient, nor fair, nor free from periodic catastrophe.

"In an Adam Smith world, the interplay of supply and demand yields a price that signals producers what to make and investors where to put their capital.

"The more that government interferes with this sublime discipline, the more bureaucrats deflect the market from its true path."

"The stubborn appeal of the libertarian idea persists, despite mountains of evidence that the free market is neither efficient, nor fair, nor free from periodic catastrophe

Funny quote, posted by a moron who thinks the commies were ever more efficient, more fair, or free from periodic, or constant, catastrophe.

How do you feel about your Intelligence Committee members who withheld from the public that this pandemic was coming until they could get their predatory donors informed and wrap up their insider trading?

The all-powerful government is at it again.

Government is the problem.

.

,
No, you are cucked to concentrated wealth and the entire system runs upon corruption.

Shut your fucking commie mouth.

You obviously know jack shit. You should find a good commie refuge and get the fuck out of here.

Who outsourced capitalist jobs to communists? Who outsourced production/manufacturing capacity/capability we don't have now in this crisis to communists? Who participated in the consumption of these communist produced goods?

Why that would be American capitalists.

Do you see why "capitalism" in America is a ruse now? Your "capitalist" system is turning once again to socialism as it always does when it crashes.

No, I'm afraid that no one here who isn't deliberately trying to view everything as "See why socialism is WONDERFUL?!" is seeing that socialism is wonderful.

Engaging in business transactions with people who live in a communist country does not make US socialists, nor does it make capitalism bad. Nothing about the economic system that is capitalism requires us to shun and isolate socialist/communist nations and their people. To the contrary, spreading capitalistic concepts and attitudes through financial dealings does those countries a lot of good.

And we are in no way "turning to socialism" for jack shit in this emergency, no matter HOW many times you trumpet about "Aha! Government functions equal SOCIALISM! They do, they do, they do!"

Who outsourced capitalist jobs to communists? Who outsourced production/manufacturing capacity/capability we don't have now in this crisis to communists? Who participated in the consumption of these communist produced goods?

Why that would be American capitalists.

"I'm just SURE that if I ignore the response and re-assert my position, THIS time it will magically become true!"

That's never worked for America's sloganeering, objective reality will always assert itself, your frenetic denialist caterwauling notwithstanding.

 

[francoHFW]

Did y’all catch Trumps presser ? Whole lotta commie socialist talk going on. Tests for everyone ? Bailouts ? Billion dollar aid packages ?!?


When push comes to shove , socialist type programs ain’t so bad . Or should we rely on capitalism alone to save us with price gouging?

The ones screaming for socialism are the Dems- not the right. Trying to push through socializing medicine now rather than taking care of their constituents.

Socializing medicine is taking care of your constituents dumbass dupe. And none of your socialism is communism crap. Communism is a dictatorship that owns all business and industry because you need a dictatorship to keep the people down. Socialism by definition has some democracy.the USSR claimed to be socialist because there was supposed to be democracy in the Soviets or committees. Did not happen. Canada is socialist every rich country in the world is socialist but us because we don't have healthcare at least. Thanks to the GOP the scumbags and silly dupes like you.
"He has also defined Soviet communism as 'fake socialism', particularly because any socialism worthy of the name requires authentic democratic control of production and resources as well as public ownership.

Only in your small world. We can revisit that topic after this pandemic is done and see how it fairs in those countries where it is. By the way, many of those country’s have now returned some control to private industry, as it has been failing.

Did y’all catch Trumps presser ? Whole lotta commie socialist talk going on. Tests for everyone ? Bailouts ? Billion dollar aid packages ?!?


When push comes to shove , socialist type programs ain’t so bad . Or should we rely on capitalism alone to save us with price gouging?

The ones screaming for socialism are the Dems- not the right. Trying to push through socializing medicine now rather than taking care of their constituents.

Socializing medicine is taking care of your constituents dumbass dupe. And none of your socialism is communism crap. Communism is a dictatorship that owns all business and industry because you need a dictatorship to keep the people down. Socialism by definition has some democracy.the USSR claimed to be socialist because there was supposed to be democracy in the Soviets or committees. Did not happen. Canada is socialist every rich country in the world is socialist but us because we don't have healthcare at least. Thanks to the GOP the scumbags and silly dupes like you.
"He has also defined Soviet communism as 'fake socialism', particularly because any socialism worthy of the name requires authentic democratic control of production and resources as well as public ownership.

Only in your small world. We can revisit that topic after this pandemic is done and see how it fairs in those countries where it is. By the way, many of those country’s have now returned some contro every country is going to get it in the end.l to private industry, as it has been failing.

Every country will get the coronavirus in the end. Authoritarian countries have the advantage in keeping the numbers down. Because they can enforce the rules violently. Socialism is not communism At. Everyone knows it but your tiny world which is the GOP propaganda world. 85% of the world disagrees with you on the facts.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Did y’all catch Trumps presser ? Whole lotta commie socialist talk going on. Tests for everyone ? Bailouts ? Billion dollar aid packages ?!?


When push comes to shove , socialist type programs ain’t so bad . Or should we rely on capitalism alone to save us with price gouging?

The ones screaming for socialism are the Dems- not the right. Trying to push through socializing medicine now rather than taking care of their constituents.

Socializing medicine is taking care of your constituents dumbass dupe. And none of your socialism is communism crap. Communism is a dictatorship that owns all business and industry because you need a dictatorship to keep the people down. Socialism by definition has some democracy.the USSR claimed to be socialist because there was supposed to be democracy in the Soviets or committees. Did not happen. Canada is socialist every rich country in the world is socialist but us because we don't have healthcare at least. Thanks to the GOP the scumbags and silly dupes like you.
"He has also defined Soviet communism as 'fake socialism', particularly because any socialism worthy of the name requires authentic democratic control of production and resources as well as public ownership.

Only in your small world. We can revisit that topic after this pandemic is done and see how it fairs in those countries where it is. By the way, many of those country’s have now returned some control to private industry, as it has been failing.

Have you noticed you do not live in a capitalist society? Capital will be bailed out yet again with socialism.

Have you noticed that we live in a VERY capitalist society, which suffers from attempts by dinks like you to convert it to socialism and which has never derived a single positive thing from those things?