Remember...Biden: “I Guarantee You We’re Going To End Fossil Fuel”... replace with what...electricity?

[BluesLegend]

You caught us

Dems have a plan to have Russia invade Ukraine to Jack up global gas prices and force people to buy Electric Vehicles

 

[Leo123]

You caught us

Dems have a plan to have Russia invade Ukraine to Jack up global gas prices and force people to buy Electric Vehicles

Yep, it's Biden's 'green' dream. He cut our oil supplies, is so weak, Putin invaded Ukraine, and wants to replace ICE vehicles with EVs when there is no infrastructure to support them. Plan? No, Biden can't plan his way into or out of anything. He's brain dead.

 

[AntonToo]

On average, it costs between $0.30- $0.60 kWh to charge an electric vehicle. Therefore, this means that a small car could cost about $11.50 to $23 to fully charge ​

while a bigger or long-distance vehicle could cost between $22.50 to $45.​

How long does it take to charge an electric car at a public charging station?​

There are three types of charging stations that could help determine the price of charging and the mass of time it would take to charge your electric car.

• Level 3: These types of chargers are much more potent than levels 2 and 1. It takes less time to charge at these stations, but not all cars can charge at these ports. Your car charge also needs to be below 80% charge to be charged at these ports. After your vehicle is at 80% of charge, the car starts charging a little slower. Level 3 chargers could take about fifteen minutes to charge your vehicle with 7kWh, covering around forty-five kilometers. (27 miles)... 15 minutes to charge to go 27 miles... (I fill my car to go 300 miles in 15 mins!)
• Level 2: These charger types are the most typical ones easily found anywhere in public. If your car is at 80% charge, it is better to charge it at a level 2 because it will charge at the same speed as a level 3 charger but at a cheaper cost. Level 2 chargers take between 5 to 12 hours to charge your car entirely.
• Level 1: These chargers are ones you can have in your garage. It takes several hours to charge your car to 100% at home since the outlet has only 120 volts. If you have time, this would be a cheaper option. Charging at home will take between 8 to over 40 hours, depending on your car’s battery size.

You can choose to charge your car at home or in public charging stations depending on how much time you have

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Think about that... you just got home, your expecting wife needs to go, and your car is 10% charged able to go 20 miles!
Right!!!

Horseshit, charging at home, which is primary charging, costs ~20c/kWh, without considering off-peak incentives.

 

[AntonToo]

In 2020, there were 286.9 million cars registered in America.
In 2020, while the US grid had 1,117.5TW of utility electricity capacity and 27.7GW of solar, according to the US Energy Information Administration.

If all the cars were EVs charging at 7kW, they would need 2,008.3TW – nearly twice the grid capacity.

(NOTE... Total current US grid capacity:1,244TWs:
Required charging: 2,008.3TW and remember that's assuming ONLY cars are charging...
what about your refrigerator , A/C , TV, Internet...all use electricity including the factories processing your food!)
If they charged at 50kW, they would need 14,345TW – 12.8 times the capacity.

Electricity Grids Can Handle Electric Vehicles Easily â They Just Need Proper Management

One of the most frequent concerns you will see from electric vehicle haters is that the electricity grid can’t possibly cope with all cars becoming EVs. However, they haven’t done the math properly. The grids in most developed nations will be just fine. Here’s how.

www.forbes.com

SO FOLKS... If we were all electric cars today...
A typical electric car (60kWh battery) takes just under 8 hours to charge from empty-to-full with a 7kW charging point. Most drivers top up charge rather than waiting for their battery to recharge from empty-to-full. For many electric cars, you can add up to 100 miles of range in ~35 minutes with a 50kW rapid charger.Nov 11, 2021

How Long Does It Take to Charge an Electric Car? | Pod Point

A complete guide on how long it takes to charge an electric car, the factors that influence charging time and the concept of top-up charging.

pod-point.com

Dammy wtf makes you think that our electricity production can’t expand to meet the need in a few decades that a full electric switch would require?

You start with a demand fantasy and then complain it doesn’t match supply reality.

 

[DBA]

After paying $4.50 a gallon, those “peasants” are going to give a serious look at EVs for their next purchase

That is the plan isn't it? I mean, plenty of idiots don't see that, but it seems as though you at least know that you are being led around by the nose.

 

[Leo123]

That is the plan isn't it? I mean, plenty of idiots don't see that, but it seems as though you at least know that you are being led around by the nose.

RW simply LOVES the Marxist way. "screw the market, let central government control everything." He loves him some nose ring.

 

[toobfreak]

In 2020, there were 286.9 million cars registered in America.
In 2020, while the US grid had 1,117.5TW of utility electricity capacity and 27.7GW of solar, according to the US Energy Information Administration.

If all the cars were EVs charging at 7kW, they would need 2,008.3TW – nearly twice the grid capacity.

(NOTE... Total current US grid capacity:1,244TWs:
Required charging: 2,008.3TW and remember that's assuming ONLY cars are charging...
what about your refrigerator , A/C , TV, Internet...all use electricity including the factories processing your food!)
If they charged at 50kW, they would need 14,345TW – 12.8 times the capacity.

Electricity Grids Can Handle Electric Vehicles Easily â They Just Need Proper Management

One of the most frequent concerns you will see from electric vehicle haters is that the electricity grid can’t possibly cope with all cars becoming EVs. However, they haven’t done the math properly. The grids in most developed nations will be just fine. Here’s how.

www.forbes.com

SO FOLKS... If we were all electric cars today...
A typical electric car (60kWh battery) takes just under 8 hours to charge from empty-to-full with a 7kW charging point. Most drivers top up charge rather than waiting for their battery to recharge from empty-to-full. For many electric cars, you can add up to 100 miles of range in ~35 minutes with a 50kW rapid charger.Nov 11, 2021

How Long Does It Take to Charge an Electric Car? | Pod Point

A complete guide on how long it takes to charge an electric car, the factors that influence charging time and the concept of top-up charging.

pod-point.com

I just love electrical threads like this which point out that our electric grid has been allowed to decay for decades, merely patching it here and there as needed, while many of its most vital parts are unavailable or would take years to replace! Like our infrastructure, politicians have put corporate greed and lobbying profits ahead of building an electric grid ready for tomorrow, and I know this whole EV thing is a FANTASY as we now stand, it would take literally TRILLIONS of dollars in upgrade before we would be even close to a grid truly able to support a true all-electric transportation system, and that is ignoring the environmental horrors of mining enough raw materials to supply all of the batteries and the fact that by the time all this is done, it would cost far more to own and operate even a bare-bones EV as compared to even a luxuriant ICE car!

 

[Nostra]

You caught us

Dems have a plan to have Russia invade Ukraine to Jack up global gas prices and force people to buy Electric Vehicles

Hey Troll, gas price were skyrocketing well before Putin went into Ukraine due to your Vegetable Messiah's policies.

 

[Leo123]

I just love electrical threads like this which point out that our electric grid has been allowed to decay for decades, merely patching it here and there as needed, while many of its most vital parts are unavailable or would take years to replace! Like our infrastructure, politicians have put corporate greed and lobbying profits ahead of building an electric grid ready for tomorrow, and I know this whole EV thing is a FANTASY as we now stand, it would take literally TRILLIONS of dollars in upgrade before we would be even close to a grid truly able to support a true all-electric transportation system, and that is ignoring the environmental horrors of mining enough raw materials to supply all of the batteries and the fact that by the time all this is done, it would cost far more to own and operate even a bare-bones EV as compared to even a luxuriant ICE car!

Yes, and solar panels will need to be maintained and constantly replaced over the estimated hundreds of millions of acres of solar arrays. Add to that, solar panels loose approximately .5% to 1% efficiency every year. Constant maintenance and constant replacement. Wind turbines have an approximate 20 year lifespan and need regular maintenance every six months. Wind Turbines wear out and will need to be taken down, recycled. The trash, plastics, fiberglass will end up in landfill. Look at this:

 

[Nostra]

Yes, and solar panels will need to be maintained and constantly replaced over the estimated hundreds of millions of acres of solar arrays. Add to that, solar panels loose approximately .5% to 1% efficiency every year. Constant maintenance and constant replacement. Wind turbines have an approximate 20 year lifespan and need regular maintenance every six months. Wind Turbines wear out and will need to be taken down, recycled. The trash, plastics, fiberglass will end up in landfill. Look at this:

Windmills need approx 80 gallons of oil to operate, and they often leak



.At the moment, the average wind farm has 150 turbines. Each wind turbine requires 80 gallons of oil for lubrication, and this isn’t vegetable oil; this is a PAO synthetic oil based on crude… 12,000 gallons. Once a year, that oil must be replenished.

 

[Leo123]

Windmills need approx 80 gallons of oil to operate, and they often leak



.At the moment, the average wind farm has 150 turbines. Each wind turbine requires 80 gallons of oil for lubrication, and this isn’t vegetable oil; this is a PAO synthetic oil based on crude… 12,000 gallons. Once a year, that oil must be replenished.

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It has been estimated it will take 1.26 million wind turbines to to power the U.S. That's about 200 million gallons of oil, once a year.

 

[toobfreak]

It has been estimated it will take 1.26 million wind turbines to to power the U.S. That's about 200 million gallons of oil, once a year.

Wait. So, we need 200 million gallons of oil a year to run the machines that are supposed to get us off dependency on oil?!

 

[Leo123]

Wait. So, we need 200 million gallons of oil a year to run the machines that are supposed to get us off dependency on oil?!

Don’t forget all the materials made from petroleum too.

 

[Nostra]

Don’t forget all the materials made from petroleum too.

Yep. The windmills themselves use petroleum and all kinds of other chemicals in their manufacturing. Then they have to be thrown in a landfill when they are used up.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

With range of over 200 miles between charges, most owners will only charge once a week and at night when electric consumption is at its lowest.

Many homeowners will also invest in solar panels to charge their cars for free

On average Americans drive 1,200 miles per month and commuters average.

The average commute is a half hour of start and stop traffic. That means the 200 mi range is going to be cut by well over half particularly in cold and hot weather.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

Yep. The windmills themselves use petroleum and all kinds of other chemicals in their manufacturing. Then they have to be thrown in a landfill when they are used up.

The turbines are also heavily dependent on oil for lubricants to keep running which they leak profusely require frequent repairs and fillups.

Over 10,000 products are made from petroleum from pharmaceuticals to paints and statins to tires, lubricants, fabrics, and fuels.

 

[Winco]

guess you got your answer. Winco maybe you need to take a better look at the party you support.

1).
America was originally built upon destroying the current occupants.
Native Americans and Mexicans.

2).
Then, America was rebuilt by Foreigners (immigrants) entering this land.

3).
Now, (R) or Right Wingers want to protect the belief that they are the rightful occupants.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

1).
America was originally built upon destroying the current occupants.
Native Americans and Mexicans.

2).
Then, America was rebuilt by Foreigners (immigrants) entering this land.

3).
Now, (R) or Right Wingers want to protect the belief that they are the rightful occupants.

Virtually every country on earth that exists today was built on the rubble of civilizations they conquered to take that land to begin with so what is your point?

 

[Big Bend Texas]

America was originally built upon destroying the current occupants.
Native Americans and Mexicans.

That certainly isn't true, fighting only broke out between the original settlers and Indians when the Indians decided they didn't like their new neighbors anymore.

Instead of moving out of their old neighborhoods which is the rule in the country today they decided to fight war after war over what they believed to be their lands/neighborhoods.

 

[LeftofLeft]

With range of over 200 miles between charges, most owners will only charge once a week and at night when electric consumption is at its lowest.

Many homeowners will also invest in solar panels to charge their cars for free

Sounds great to me but we are nowhere near that. The best way the President and the Democrats can end fossil fuel is to bring viable alternative energy to market. Otherwise, if they are going to first hurt fossil fuel with policies then they need to be willing to pay the political outcome.