There is an alternative to fossil fuels and it is NOT Electric Vehicles... and the difference is $660 billion VERSUS $51.1 quadrillion!

[healthmyths]

Those of you that are reading this are among the first to learn of an alternative to doing what Biden has guaranteed!
"I guarantee We Are Going To Get Rid of Fossil Fuels” September 06, 2019, 5:49 PM

So the reason for Biden's totally ignorant statement is to reduce global warming. Everyone agree?
We all agree "global warming" is due to CO2 emissions. Right?
So Biden and truly uninformed people advocate Electric Vehicles (EVs) for cars and trucks instead of fossil fuels.
But uninformed EV advocates don't seem to realize these simple facts:
1. To replace at least 80% of all trucks(132 million EV trucks at 100,000 miles/year each using 1.89 kWh/mile) will require 24,948,000,000,000 kWh. FACT!
Battery capacity and recharging needs for electric buses in city transit service (Journal Article) | OSTI.GOV
2. To replace at least 80% of all cars with EV(The average EV car gets .25 kWh per mile. The average American driver drives 14,263 miles per year.
There are 182 million drivers or a total drive miles of 2,603,853,280,000. At .25 kWh/mile that is a total of 650,963,320,000 kWh.
3. A total of 25,598,963,320,000 kWh or more than 6 times the current electricity of
4,165,030,000,000 kWh done by 11,070 power plants or an average of 376,244,806 kWh.
Total kWh electricity generated In USA source: Electricity generation, capacity, and sales in the United States - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
4. To build the 68,038 ADDITIONAL power plants at a cost of $2,000/kWh will require: $51,197,926,640,000,000 - That's $51.1 quadrillion!
This will destroy the annual revenue of the global oil and gas exploration and production industry is $5 trillion.fossil fuel industry

20 Incredible Oil And Gas Industry Statistics [2023]: Extraction, Products And Profit - Zippia

Research Summary. The oil and gas industry is a huge player in the world’s economy, and although it’s often controversial, there is no denying the impact it makes on our daily lives (and wallets). Here are some statistics about the oil and gas industry: In 2021, the world produced 4.2 billion...

www.zippia.com

BUT BUT BUT.... There is an alternative to "Rid of Fossil Fuels" and save the $5 Trillion into our GDP!

The alternative that will reduce or possibly rid the entire CO2 emissions!
CO2 can be used to produce fuels and chemical intermediates through several conversion routes but require significant energy input.
The chief cost factor is typically electricity, accounting for between 40-70% of the production costs,
and hence very low average grid electricity prices are required for CO2-derived methanol and methane to be competitive,

Putting CO2 to Use – Analysis - IEA

Putting CO2 to Use - Analysis and key findings. A report by the International Energy Agency.

www.iea.org

So Electricity is the biggest COST!!! Wow...so the cost of EV conversions of just Trucks in the USA of building 68,038 nuclear power plants will be definitely more
expensive than using CO2 to produce fuels!!! People... there are some truly ignorant people in CHARGE!!!
Carbon Engineering (CE) has broken down the costs of a Direct air capture (DAC) systems
FACT:In a new research paper based on three years of data from a pilot plant, the CE team shows how it could be done for between $94 and $232 per metric ton.
At CE, we've been working on direct air capture since 2009, running our pilot plant since 2015, and we now have the data and engineering to prove that DAC can achieve costs below $100USD per ton

Pilot plant demonstrates low-cost conversion of CO2 into fuel

Reducing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is one of the most pressing concerns facing the world today. Cutting back the amount of CO2 that's newly pumped into the air is vital, but it might not be enough – we need to suck out some that's already up there. Direct air capture (DAC) systems have been…

newatlas.com

So in the USA the total CO2 emissions In 2020, U.S. greenhouse gas emissions totaled (6,600,000,000 tons) of carbon dioxide equivalents

Climate Change Indicators: U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions | US EPA

This indicator describes emissions of greenhouse gases in the United States.

www.epa.gov

So at $100 per ton of CO2 to be converted the cost will be $660,000,000,000! $660 billion! VS $51,197,926,640,000,000 - That's $51.1 quadrillion!
FOLKS!!! Do you understand?
We can all keep our gas cars/trucks...
we won't have to buy an EV unless we want too!
But more importantly... 129 million American households won't have to pay $1,653,679 per month for 20 years!

I KNOW I KNOW... what a ridiculous number BUT folks where have you heard any discussion of how we are going to pay for a total of 25,598,963,320,000 kWh
or more than 6 times the current 4.15 Trillion kWh of electricity all needed by 80% of cars/Trucks in the USA!
$660 billion! VS $51,197,926,640,000,000! Is there any questions? Please folks tear the figures apart and EVEN IF I'm off by 90%...
$5,119,792,664,000,000 $5.19 Quadrillion Versus $660,000,000,000!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Those of you that are reading this are among the first to learn of an alternative to doing what Biden has guaranteed!
"I guarantee We Are Going To Get Rid of Fossil Fuels” September 06, 2019, 5:49 PM

So the reason for Biden's totally ignorant statement is to reduce global warming. Everyone agree?
We all agree "global warming" is due to CO2 emissions. Right?
So Biden and truly uninformed people advocate Electric Vehicles (EVs) for cars and trucks instead of fossil fuels.
But uninformed EV advocates don't seem to realize these simple facts:
1. To replace at least 80% of all trucks(132 million EV trucks at 100,000 miles/year each using 1.89 kWh/mile) will require 24,948,000,000,000 kWh. FACT!
Battery capacity and recharging needs for electric buses in city transit service (Journal Article) | OSTI.GOV
2. To replace at least 80% of all cars with EV(The average EV car gets .25 kWh per mile. The average American driver drives 14,263 miles per year.
There are 182 million drivers or a total drive miles of 2,603,853,280,000. At .25 kWh/mile that is a total of 650,963,320,000 kWh.
3. A total of 25,598,963,320,000 kWh or more than 6 times the current electricity of
4,165,030,000,000 kWh done by 11,070 power plants or an average of 376,244,806 kWh.
Total kWh electricity generated In USA source: Electricity generation, capacity, and sales in the United States - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
4. To build the 68,038 ADDITIONAL power plants at a cost of $2,000/kWh will require: $51,197,926,640,000,000 - That's $51.1 quadrillion!
This will destroy the annual revenue of the global oil and gas exploration and production industry is $5 trillion.fossil fuel industry

20 Incredible Oil And Gas Industry Statistics [2023]: Extraction, Products And Profit - Zippia

Research Summary. The oil and gas industry is a huge player in the world’s economy, and although it’s often controversial, there is no denying the impact it makes on our daily lives (and wallets). Here are some statistics about the oil and gas industry: In 2021, the world produced 4.2 billion...

www.zippia.com

BUT BUT BUT.... There is an alternative to "Rid of Fossil Fuels" and save the $5 Trillion into our GDP!

The alternative that will reduce or possibly rid the entire CO2 emissions!
CO2 can be used to produce fuels and chemical intermediates through several conversion routes but require significant energy input.
The chief cost factor is typically electricity, accounting for between 40-70% of the production costs,
and hence very low average grid electricity prices are required for CO2-derived methanol and methane to be competitive,

Putting CO2 to Use – Analysis - IEA

Putting CO2 to Use - Analysis and key findings. A report by the International Energy Agency.

www.iea.org

So Electricity is the biggest COST!!! Wow...so the cost of EV conversions of just Trucks in the USA of building 68,038 nuclear power plants will be definitely more
expensive than using CO2 to produce fuels!!! People... there are some truly ignorant people in CHARGE!!!
Carbon Engineering (CE) has broken down the costs of a Direct air capture (DAC) systems
FACT:In a new research paper based on three years of data from a pilot plant, the CE team shows how it could be done for between $94 and $232 per metric ton.
At CE, we've been working on direct air capture since 2009, running our pilot plant since 2015, and we now have the data and engineering to prove that DAC can achieve costs below $100USD per ton

Pilot plant demonstrates low-cost conversion of CO2 into fuel

Reducing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is one of the most pressing concerns facing the world today. Cutting back the amount of CO2 that's newly pumped into the air is vital, but it might not be enough – we need to suck out some that's already up there. Direct air capture (DAC) systems have been…

newatlas.com

So in the USA the total CO2 emissions In 2020, U.S. greenhouse gas emissions totaled (6,600,000,000 tons) of carbon dioxide equivalents

Climate Change Indicators: U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions | US EPA

This indicator describes emissions of greenhouse gases in the United States.

www.epa.gov

So at $100 per ton of CO2 to be converted the cost will be $660,000,000,000! $660 billion! VS $51,197,926,640,000,000 - That's $51.1 quadrillion!
FOLKS!!! Do you understand?
We can all keep our gas cars/trucks...
we won't have to buy an EV unless we want too!
But more importantly... 129 million American households won't have to pay $1,653,679 per month for 20 years!

I KNOW I KNOW... what a ridiculous number BUT folks where have you heard any discussion of how we are going to pay for a total of 25,598,963,320,000 kWh
or more than 6 times the current 4.15 Trillion kWh of electricity all needed by 80% of cars/Trucks in the USA!
$660 billion! VS $51,197,926,640,000,000! Is there any questions? Please folks tear the figures apart and EVEN IF I'm off by 90%...
$5,119,792,664,000,000 $5.19 Quadrillion Versus $660,000,000,000!

To replace at least 80% of all trucks(132 million EV trucks at 100,000 miles/year each using 1.89 kWh/mile) will require 24,948,000,000,000 kWh. FACT!

You might want to check your math.

You think there are 132 million tractor trailers in the US?

 

[Hossfly]

To replace at least 80% of all trucks(132 million EV trucks at 100,000 miles/year each using 1.89 kWh/mile) will require 24,948,000,000,000 kWh. FACT!

You might want to check your math.

You think there are 132 million tractor trailers in the US?

FYI

Trucking Industry Trends, Statistics, & Forecast – 2023 Edition

See our team's research on the trucking industry. We cover statistics on vehicles, drivers, companies, the market size, truck accidents, fuel consumption, and more

www.truckinfo.net

 

[candycorn]

To build the 68,038 ADDITIONAL power plants

A couple of months ago, it was only 2,000 or so power plants needed.

You're full of shit.

If all vehicles are EVs,it will take $20 trillion to build the additional 2,767 nuclear power plants to supply the 8,300,000,000 kWh per year for EVs.

I've provided the links that show how many vehicles if replaced by EVs will require double the current electricity (4.1 trillion kWh) annually to provide the EVs the electricity to charge their batteries. Based on documentation that .25 kWh per 1 mile traveled is required for all vehicles..cars...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[White 6]

Those of you that are reading this are among the first to learn of an alternative to doing what Biden has guaranteed!
"I guarantee We Are Going To Get Rid of Fossil Fuels” September 06, 2019, 5:49 PM

So the reason for Biden's totally ignorant statement is to reduce global warming. Everyone agree?
We all agree "global warming" is due to CO2 emissions. Right?
So Biden and truly uninformed people advocate Electric Vehicles (EVs) for cars and trucks instead of fossil fuels.
But uninformed EV advocates don't seem to realize these simple facts:
1. To replace at least 80% of all trucks(132 million EV trucks at 100,000 miles/year each using 1.89 kWh/mile) will require 24,948,000,000,000 kWh. FACT!
Battery capacity and recharging needs for electric buses in city transit service (Journal Article) | OSTI.GOV
2. To replace at least 80% of all cars with EV(The average EV car gets .25 kWh per mile. The average American driver drives 14,263 miles per year.
There are 182 million drivers or a total drive miles of 2,603,853,280,000. At .25 kWh/mile that is a total of 650,963,320,000 kWh.
3. A total of 25,598,963,320,000 kWh or more than 6 times the current electricity of
4,165,030,000,000 kWh done by 11,070 power plants or an average of 376,244,806 kWh.
Total kWh electricity generated In USA source: Electricity generation, capacity, and sales in the United States - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
4. To build the 68,038 ADDITIONAL power plants at a cost of $2,000/kWh will require: $51,197,926,640,000,000 - That's $51.1 quadrillion!
This will destroy the annual revenue of the global oil and gas exploration and production industry is $5 trillion.fossil fuel industry

20 Incredible Oil And Gas Industry Statistics [2023]: Extraction, Products And Profit - Zippia

Research Summary. The oil and gas industry is a huge player in the world’s economy, and although it’s often controversial, there is no denying the impact it makes on our daily lives (and wallets). Here are some statistics about the oil and gas industry: In 2021, the world produced 4.2 billion...

www.zippia.com

BUT BUT BUT.... There is an alternative to "Rid of Fossil Fuels" and save the $5 Trillion into our GDP!

The alternative that will reduce or possibly rid the entire CO2 emissions!
CO2 can be used to produce fuels and chemical intermediates through several conversion routes but require significant energy input.
The chief cost factor is typically electricity, accounting for between 40-70% of the production costs,
and hence very low average grid electricity prices are required for CO2-derived methanol and methane to be competitive,

Putting CO2 to Use – Analysis - IEA

Putting CO2 to Use - Analysis and key findings. A report by the International Energy Agency.

www.iea.org

So Electricity is the biggest COST!!! Wow...so the cost of EV conversions of just Trucks in the USA of building 68,038 nuclear power plants will be definitely more
expensive than using CO2 to produce fuels!!! People... there are some truly ignorant people in CHARGE!!!
Carbon Engineering (CE) has broken down the costs of a Direct air capture (DAC) systems
FACT:In a new research paper based on three years of data from a pilot plant, the CE team shows how it could be done for between $94 and $232 per metric ton.
At CE, we've been working on direct air capture since 2009, running our pilot plant since 2015, and we now have the data and engineering to prove that DAC can achieve costs below $100USD per ton

Pilot plant demonstrates low-cost conversion of CO2 into fuel

Reducing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is one of the most pressing concerns facing the world today. Cutting back the amount of CO2 that's newly pumped into the air is vital, but it might not be enough – we need to suck out some that's already up there. Direct air capture (DAC) systems have been…

newatlas.com

So in the USA the total CO2 emissions In 2020, U.S. greenhouse gas emissions totaled (6,600,000,000 tons) of carbon dioxide equivalents

Climate Change Indicators: U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions | US EPA

This indicator describes emissions of greenhouse gases in the United States.

www.epa.gov

So at $100 per ton of CO2 to be converted the cost will be $660,000,000,000! $660 billion! VS $51,197,926,640,000,000 - That's $51.1 quadrillion!
FOLKS!!! Do you understand?
We can all keep our gas cars/trucks...
we won't have to buy an EV unless we want too!
But more importantly... 129 million American households won't have to pay $1,653,679 per month for 20 years!

I KNOW I KNOW... what a ridiculous number BUT folks where have you heard any discussion of how we are going to pay for a total of 25,598,963,320,000 kWh
or more than 6 times the current 4.15 Trillion kWh of electricity all needed by 80% of cars/Trucks in the USA!
$660 billion! VS $51,197,926,640,000,000! Is there any questions? Please folks tear the figures apart and EVEN IF I'm off by 90%...
$5,119,792,664,000,000 $5.19 Quadrillion Versus $660,000,000,000!

He is not getting rid of fossil fuels, whether the Eco rubes bought into that or not.

 

[g5000]

To replace at least 80% of all trucks(132 million EV trucks at 100,000 miles/year each using 1.89 kWh/mile) will require 24,948,000,000,000 kWh. FACT!

You might want to check your math.

You think there are 132 million tractor trailers in the US?

healthmyths has always been innumerate, and this is not the first time he has started this topic and been corrected.

He ignores the facts and just plows ahead.

 

[DudleySmith]

The Great American Trucker Shortage Isn't Real

The trucking industry has a retention problem, not a recruitment problem.

time.com

As the U.S. contends with supply-chain problems that could make holiday shopping harder, one explanation comes up again and again: The country doesn’t have enough truckers. “The Biggest Kink in America’s Supply Chain: Not Enough Truckers,” a New York Times story read this week. Where Are All the Truck Drivers? Shortage Adds to Delivery Delays, cried a Wall Street Journal headline the week before.

In reality, there is no shortage of people who want to get into truck driving, nor is there a shortage of people who have obtained commercial driving licenses (CDLs).



The stories inevitably cite a report from the American Trucking Association that says the industry is short 80,000 drivers and quote experts who blame the alleged shortage on a lack of people interested in these difficult jobs. Yet, in California alone, there are 640,445 people who hold active Class A and Class B commercial driver’s licenses, according to the Department of Motor Vehicles. Meanwhile there are only 140,000 “truck transportation” jobs in the state, according to the state Employment Development Department.

over 640,000 with current CDLs; this doesn't count all those who let theirs lapse, which is probably easily 3 or 4 times that, and the Fed just keeps right on subsidizing training schools for the companies. It's a stupid waste of taxpayers money.

No, there aren't '132,000,000' trucks in the U.S. Our largest state claims there are only 140,000 drivers needed for their local needs.

 

[jknowgood]

A couple of months ago, it was only 2,000 or so power plants needed.

You're full of shit.

If all vehicles are EVs,it will take $20 trillion to build the additional 2,767 nuclear power plants to supply the 8,300,000,000 kWh per year for EVs.

I've provided the links that show how many vehicles if replaced by EVs will require double the current electricity (4.1 trillion kWh) annually to provide the EVs the electricity to charge their batteries. Based on documentation that .25 kWh per 1 mile traveled is required for all vehicles..cars...

www.usmessageboard.com

Dumbass, Biden wants to shut down power plants and go 100% renewable and go 100% ev's. It cannot be done right now.

 

[candycorn]

Dumbass, Biden wants to shut down power plants and go 100% renewable and go 100% ev's. It cannot be done right now.

So in one post your brother there says we need 2000 +/- plants.
Now he says we need 70,000.

How many plants do you think we're going to need?

 

[jknowgood]

So in one post your brother there says we need 2000 +/- plants.
Now he says we need 70,000.

How many plants do you think we're going to need?

Biden is shutting them down.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

A couple of months ago, it was only 2,000 or so power plants needed.

You're full of shit.

If all vehicles are EVs,it will take $20 trillion to build the additional 2,767 nuclear power plants to supply the 8,300,000,000 kWh per year for EVs.

I've provided the links that show how many vehicles if replaced by EVs will require double the current electricity (4.1 trillion kWh) annually to provide the EVs the electricity to charge their batteries. Based on documentation that .25 kWh per 1 mile traveled is required for all vehicles..cars...

www.usmessageboard.com

Give the poor little guy a break, he just copies and paste things, he has no idea what any of it means.

He is very proud of never having to think for himself, even attacked me for doing so.

 

[2aguy]

To replace at least 80% of all trucks(132 million EV trucks at 100,000 miles/year each using 1.89 kWh/mile) will require 24,948,000,000,000 kWh. FACT!

You might want to check your math.

You think there are 132 million tractor trailers in the US?

They don't want to replace trucks....they want people to do without......force them to have smaller families, live in apartments instead of single family homes, eat less, eat less meat, and eat more crickets and bugs.....all part of their utopian/totalitarian dreams.

 

[Mac-7]

Those of you that are reading this are among the first to learn of an alternative to doing what Biden has guaranteed!
"I guarantee We Are Going To Get Rid of Fossil Fuels” September 06, 2019, 5:49 PM

So the reason for Biden's totally ignorant statement is to reduce global warming. Everyone agree?
We all agree "global warming" is due to CO2 emissions. Right?
So Biden and truly uninformed people advocate Electric Vehicles (EVs) for cars and trucks instead of fossil fuels.
But uninformed EV advocates don't seem to realize these simple facts:
1. To replace at least 80% of all trucks(132 million EV trucks at 100,000 miles/year each using 1.89 kWh/mile) will require 24,948,000,000,000 kWh. FACT!
Battery capacity and recharging needs for electric buses in city transit service (Journal Article) | OSTI.GOV
2. To replace at least 80% of all cars with EV(The average EV car gets .25 kWh per mile. The average American driver drives 14,263 miles per year.
There are 182 million drivers or a total drive miles of 2,603,853,280,000. At .25 kWh/mile that is a total of 650,963,320,000 kWh.
3. A total of 25,598,963,320,000 kWh or more than 6 times the current electricity of
4,165,030,000,000 kWh done by 11,070 power plants or an average of 376,244,806 kWh.
Total kWh electricity generated In USA source: Electricity generation, capacity, and sales in the United States - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
4. To build the 68,038 ADDITIONAL power plants at a cost of $2,000/kWh will require: $51,197,926,640,000,000 - That's $51.1 quadrillion!
This will destroy the annual revenue of the global oil and gas exploration and production industry is $5 trillion.fossil fuel industry

20 Incredible Oil And Gas Industry Statistics [2023]: Extraction, Products And Profit - Zippia

Research Summary. The oil and gas industry is a huge player in the world’s economy, and although it’s often controversial, there is no denying the impact it makes on our daily lives (and wallets). Here are some statistics about the oil and gas industry: In 2021, the world produced 4.2 billion...

www.zippia.com

BUT BUT BUT.... There is an alternative to "Rid of Fossil Fuels" and save the $5 Trillion into our GDP!

The alternative that will reduce or possibly rid the entire CO2 emissions!
CO2 can be used to produce fuels and chemical intermediates through several conversion routes but require significant energy input.
The chief cost factor is typically electricity, accounting for between 40-70% of the production costs,
and hence very low average grid electricity prices are required for CO2-derived methanol and methane to be competitive,

Putting CO2 to Use – Analysis - IEA

Putting CO2 to Use - Analysis and key findings. A report by the International Energy Agency.

www.iea.org

So Electricity is the biggest COST!!! Wow...so the cost of EV conversions of just Trucks in the USA of building 68,038 nuclear power plants will be definitely more
expensive than using CO2 to produce fuels!!! People... there are some truly ignorant people in CHARGE!!!
Carbon Engineering (CE) has broken down the costs of a Direct air capture (DAC) systems
FACT:In a new research paper based on three years of data from a pilot plant, the CE team shows how it could be done for between $94 and $232 per metric ton.
At CE, we've been working on direct air capture since 2009, running our pilot plant since 2015, and we now have the data and engineering to prove that DAC can achieve costs below $100USD per ton

Pilot plant demonstrates low-cost conversion of CO2 into fuel

Reducing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is one of the most pressing concerns facing the world today. Cutting back the amount of CO2 that's newly pumped into the air is vital, but it might not be enough – we need to suck out some that's already up there. Direct air capture (DAC) systems have been…

newatlas.com

So in the USA the total CO2 emissions In 2020, U.S. greenhouse gas emissions totaled (6,600,000,000 tons) of carbon dioxide equivalents

Climate Change Indicators: U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions | US EPA

This indicator describes emissions of greenhouse gases in the United States.

www.epa.gov

So at $100 per ton of CO2 to be converted the cost will be $660,000,000,000! $660 billion! VS $51,197,926,640,000,000 - That's $51.1 quadrillion!
FOLKS!!! Do you understand?
We can all keep our gas cars/trucks...
we won't have to buy an EV unless we want too!
But more importantly... 129 million American households won't have to pay $1,653,679 per month for 20 years!

I KNOW I KNOW... what a ridiculous number BUT folks where have you heard any discussion of how we are going to pay for a total of 25,598,963,320,000 kWh
or more than 6 times the current 4.15 Trillion kWh of electricity all needed by 80% of cars/Trucks in the USA!
$660 billion! VS $51,197,926,640,000,000! Is there any questions? Please folks tear the figures apart and EVEN IF I'm off by 90%...
$5,119,792,664,000,000 $5.19 Quadrillion Versus $660,000,000,000!

The ultimate goal of libs is for everyone to live in a high rise apartment and use public transportation

 

[healthmyths]

The ultimate goal of libs is for everyone to live in a high rise apartment and use public transportation

Oh I don't disagree with you. But the point is THERE is an alternative to $29 quadrillion waste!

 

[healthmyths]

He is not getting rid of fossil fuels, whether the Eco rubes bought into that or not.

Oh I totally agree with you! All those rubes I'm 100% confident don't know the following:
what will replace the 300 million barrels of oil used in making 2 billion tires or the 1.4 BILLION barrels per year used to make asphalt which makes up 94% of our ALL our roads.
Products made from petroleum | Ranken Energy Corporation
Among the following items that use oil..

 

[healthmyths]

A couple of months ago, it was only 2,000 or so power plants needed.

You're full of shit.

If all vehicles are EVs,it will take $20 trillion to build the additional 2,767 nuclear power plants to supply the 8,300,000,000 kWh per year for EVs.

I've provided the links that show how many vehicles if replaced by EVs will require double the current electricity (4.1 trillion kWh) annually to provide the EVs the electricity to charge their batteries. Based on documentation that .25 kWh per 1 mile traveled is required for all vehicles..cars...

www.usmessageboard.com

AND YOU are still a STATIC thinking person. Did you know that the population of the USA is 339,996,563 in 2023 and the population of U.S. in 2022 was 338,289,857. An increase of 1,706,706. Wait in your luddite, STATIC brain... we are still at population of 338 million!
Information changes and is not like luddites like you think... totally static information.
But your complaints about the numbers changing is truly a static comment... you don't perceive changes in information.
By the way, are you aware you are 2 months older than you were a couple of months ago? NO?

 

[Mac-7]

Oh I don't disagree with you. But the point is THERE is an alternative to $29 quadrillion waste!

Libs will solve that waste issue by doing away with personal transportation entirely

 

[there4eyeM]

The real threat is "fossilized" thinking, or rather the lack of capacity to think and reason at all. Only human intelligence and creativity can save us from the incredible stupidity of humans.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

AND YOU are still a STATIC thinking person. Did you know that the population of the USA is 339,996,563 in 2023 and the population of U.S. in 2022 was 338,289,857. An increase of 1,706,706. Wait in your luddite, STATIC brain... we are still at population of 338 million!
Information changes and is not like luddites like you think... totally static information.
But your complaints about the numbers changing is truly a static comment... you don't perceive changes in information.
By the way, are you aware you are 2 months older than you were a couple of months ago? NO?

How many tractor trailers in the US?

 

[22lcidw]

So in one post your brother there says we need 2000 +/- plants.
Now he says we need 70,000.

How many plants do you think we're going to need?

Kerry making a statement to tell farmers to not to grow food. These little things are adding up. And it is not good.