No, the USA is NOT Exceptional

We always hear how the US is an exceptional nation, but it simply isn't true. Exceptional nations don't have 160 people killed over the weekend in their cities. They have don't have riots and looting in the streets. Their major urban cores don't look like Hiroshima after the bomb. They don't have tens of thousands dying of drug overdoses every year. They don't have one of the most expensive education systems with one of the poorest outcomes.

I have been to 17 countries and while all of them have their set of issues, most of them don't experience the things I listed above on a scale anywhere near what we do. There was a time when America may have been exceptional, but that day is behind us. Neither the country nor the people in it are worthy of that title. The brutal truth is we've become the trailer trash of the industrialized world.

Trailer parks are not the sites of the carnage. Try again.
you idiots are still smack in the middle of the first wave. especially trailer parks, not known for healthy people with access to good health care, are definitely a site of carnage. Covid19 diagnosed or not.
Dunno. I hear blacks are dropping like flies from both the Chinese virus and thug culture. Do you think MSM is lying?
eh? that has what to do with my post?
What did your post have to do with mine. There is a Greek expression, "You can knock on a dead man's door forever. "

Go be annoying somewhere else.
your post was about trailer parks not being sites of carnage. my post was a direct response to that. it is easily understood when reading the thread. don't go all whiny twat on me because you cannot remember your own posts.
You'll have to forgive me. I hadn't realized all those thugs killing each other and those blacks dying of the Chinese virus were in trailer parks.
 
It used to be until democrats took over those crime holes you're posting about. Get rid of them and we are fine.

Here to parrot the lies of the Republican Party, are you? This whole line of urban/rural crime is bullshit and lies. Ronald Reagan started all of this bullshit of dividing people by race and where they live. Reagan is one of three Republican Presidents who crashed the economy. The only Republican President in the last 40 years not to crash the economy is Bush 41. Of course he was only a one term President and working Americans hadn't been totally impoverished at that point.

Where are the 75,000 opiod deaths happening Mikey? Where are all the suicides happening Mikey? Where are the crime rates HIGHER than the inner cities, Mikey????? As a working man, why are you still voting for the party of death, disease and destruction? How gullible are you?

Crime is product of poverty. Racism, and lack of opportunities drive crime. This article makes clear that the off-shoring of manufacturing jobs is driving the high crime rates in the mid-west.


The cities with the highest violent crime rates tend to share other socioeconomic characteristics – notably, a lack of economic opportunity. In the vast majority of cities on this list, poverty and unemployment rates are higher than they are nationwide. Some of these cities even rank among the poorest in the country. Here is a look at the poorest city in each state.
Get rid of democrats the crime goes way down. That's my own personal opinion and is proven daily.
 
We always hear how the US is an exceptional nation, but it simply isn't true. Exceptional nations don't have 160 people killed over the weekend in their cities. They have don't have riots and looting in the streets. Their major urban cores don't look like Hiroshima after the bomb. They don't have tens of thousands dying of drug overdoses every year. They don't have one of the most expensive education systems with one of the poorest outcomes.

I have been to 17 countries and while all of them have their set of issues, most of them don't experience the things I listed above on a scale anywhere near what we do. There was a time when America may have been exceptional, but that day is behind us. Neither the country nor the people in it are worthy of that title. The brutal truth is we've become the trailer trash of the industrialized world.

Trailer parks are not the sites of the carnage. Try again.
you idiots are still smack in the middle of the first wave. especially trailer parks, not known for healthy people with access to good health care, are definitely a site of carnage. Covid19 diagnosed or not.
Dunno. I hear blacks are dropping like flies from both the Chinese virus and thug culture. Do you think MSM is lying?
eh? that has what to do with my post?
What did your post have to do with mine. There is a Greek expression, "You can knock on a dead man's door forever. "

Go be annoying somewhere else.
your post was about trailer parks not being sites of carnage. my post was a direct response to that. it is easily understood when reading the thread. don't go all whiny twat on me because you cannot remember your own posts.
I have done a lot of financial work since reagan was prez with trailer park dwellers. Many clients over the years.

They ain't conservative trust me. Now tell me how many trailer dwellers you got to know mostly, their whole lives on paper. Give me your experience please
why would i do that. do you contest that they generally have no access to good health care, and are poor. poor being associated with bad health as well?
i spent one night on a camping site near staunton, va. they had permanent residents. not very healthy looking folks.
 
We always hear how the US is an exceptional nation, but it simply isn't true. Exceptional nations don't have 160 people killed over the weekend in their cities. They have don't have riots and looting in the streets. Their major urban cores don't look like Hiroshima after the bomb. They don't have tens of thousands dying of drug overdoses every year. They don't have one of the most expensive education systems with one of the poorest outcomes.

I have been to 17 countries and while all of them have their set of issues, most of them don't experience the things I listed above on a scale anywhere near what we do. There was a time when America may have been exceptional, but that day is behind us. Neither the country nor the people in it are worthy of that title. The brutal truth is we've become the trailer trash of the industrialized world.

Trailer parks are not the sites of the carnage. Try again.
you idiots are still smack in the middle of the first wave. especially trailer parks, not known for healthy people with access to good health care, are definitely a site of carnage. Covid19 diagnosed or not.
Dunno. I hear blacks are dropping like flies from both the Chinese virus and thug culture. Do you think MSM is lying?
eh? that has what to do with my post?
What did your post have to do with mine. There is a Greek expression, "You can knock on a dead man's door forever. "

Go be annoying somewhere else.
your post was about trailer parks not being sites of carnage. my post was a direct response to that. it is easily understood when reading the thread. don't go all whiny twat on me because you cannot remember your own posts.
You'll have to forgive me. I hadn't realized all those thugs killing each other and those blacks dying of the Chinese virus were in trailer parks.
^ non-responsive.
 
Any nation that could elect Donald J Trump is not exceptional

He got elected because he is exceptional. He's not a politician. He's a billionaire who can't be bought and he's a businessman that know how to get things done. Which he has and will continue to do through 2024.

We weren't very exceptional when we elected a do nothing like Barry not once but twice. Exceptional stupidity is what I'd call that little exercise in futility.

Donald Trump isn't a real billioniare, he just plays one on TV. Nor is he "exceptional" in any real sense other than he's a malignant narciscist. Trump barely has the money his father left him. If not for being propped up financially all of his life, by his father's money, Russian millionaires, and the money from his TV show, Trump would be broke and running from the law.

I don't think that ANYONE who voted for Donald Trump in 2016, and is planning on voting for him in 2020, has any room to talk about the intellect of Obama voters. As the saying goes "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Anyone who would vote for another 4 years of this walking catastrophe is the very definition of "exceptional stupidity".

Obama had the most successful economy in American history. Donald Trump has the WORST economy since the Great Depression. And you want four more years of THIS?????
 
We always hear how the US is an exceptional nation, but it simply isn't true. Exceptional nations don't have 160 people killed over the weekend in their cities.
The measure of "exceptional" does not come down to isolated areas of inner-city violence which those responsible for law and order in those areas refuses to control.

They have don't have riots and looting in the streets.
Because no one is attempting to overthrow the government in other nations and bring about the communist revolution, because it has already happened. Here, it will never happen, but they keep trying.

Their major urban cores don't look like Hiroshima after the bomb. They don't have tens of thousands dying of drug overdoses every year. They don't have one of the most expensive education systems with one of the poorest outcomes.
Whose fault is that (it starts with a huge D)?
I have been to 17 countries and while all of them have their set of issues, most of them don't experience the things I listed above on a scale anywhere near what we do. There was a time when America may have been exceptional, but that day is behind us. Neither the country nor the people in it are worthy of that title. The brutal truth is we've become the trailer trash of the industrialized world.
Thanks to whom?
 
Still think my country is exceptional, love the place, that does not negate my right to express my disappointment in the Money matters more than people. and that people still have to fight for a measure of equality.


Money is just a tool that we use to we don't have to barter.

Every decision that we make involves tradeoffs. And it's a lot easier to decide which trafeoffs we should make when we have money as a tool in decision making.

This does not mean that money is more important than people.

Some people say that the COVID-19 lockdown debate is about "money vs lives." But that's not what it's about. It's actually about "fewer people dying vs more people dying." If the lockwon ends up killing more people than it saves, then it was a bad policy.

For example, this article is called, "Anxiety from reactions to Covid-19 will destroy at least seven times more years of life than can be saved by lockdowns."

 
The level of human developement that the average person in America enjoys is 28th in the world. Certainly not exceptionally good



Then why do so many people from Africa the Middle East immigrate all the way to the U.S., when it would be so much easier to just immigrate to western Europe?

Would it? State your case?


The immigrants coming from Africa and the Middle East are a lot closer to western Europe than they are to the U.S. That's why I said it would be easier for them to immigrate to westen Euopre than to the U.S.

If the U.S. is so undeveloped that it's all the way down at number 28 on the list, then why do so many immigrants from Africa and the Middle East move to the U.S. instead of moving to western Europe?
 
America is Exceptional, primarily because of your Constitution, culture of forgiveness, open debate and opportunity in a more Free Market system. Some wish to change that.
Sadly, as you said, a large portion of our population does not appreciate those values and positive attributes. They want legal government theft and to divide up the resources so the productive can continue to be productive, while the unproductive prosper. I call that slavery, but...you know...now I am racist.
 
The level of human developement that the average person in America enjoys is 28th in the world. Certainly not exceptionally good



Then why do so many people from Africa the Middle East immigrate all the way to the U.S., when it would be so much easier to just immigrate to western Europe?

Would it? State your case?


The immigrants coming from Africa and the Middle East are a lot closer to western Europe than they are to the U.S. That's why I said it would be easier for them to immigrate to westen Euopre than to the U.S.

If the U.S. is so undeveloped that it's all the way down at number 28 on the list, then why do so many immigrants from Africa and the Middle East move to the U.S. instead of moving to western Europe?
...because the numbers are made-up bullshit Marxist propaganda.
 
Again, this is simple....multiculturalism and dark people are the problem.
Don't be afraid to talk about it...find your balls people...This is not the time to be spineless.

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We always hear how the US is an exceptional nation, but it simply isn't true. Exceptional nations don't have 160 people killed over the weekend in their cities. They have don't have riots and looting in the streets. Their major urban cores don't look like Hiroshima after the bomb. They don't have tens of thousands dying of drug overdoses every year. They don't have one of the most expensive education systems with one of the poorest outcomes.

I have been to 17 countries and while all of them have their set of issues, most of them don't experience the things I listed above on a scale anywhere near what we do. There was a time when America may have been exceptional, but that day is behind us. Neither the country nor the people in it are worthy of that title. The brutal truth is we've become the trailer trash of the industrialized world.


60 years of creeping liberalism will do that to a country.
 
Any nation that could elect Donald J Trump is not exceptional

He got elected because he is exceptional. He's not a politician. He's a billionaire who can't be bought and he's a businessman that know how to get things done. Which he has and will continue to do through 2024.

We weren't very exceptional when we elected a do nothing like Barry not once but twice. Exceptional stupidity is what I'd call that little exercise in futility.

Donald Trump isn't a real billioniare, he just plays one on TV. Nor is he "exceptional" in any real sense other than he's a malignant narciscist. Trump barely has the money his father left him. If not for being propped up financially all of his life, by his father's money, Russian millionaires, and the money from his TV show, Trump would be broke and running from the law.

I don't think that ANYONE who voted for Donald Trump in 2016, and is planning on voting for him in 2020, has any room to talk about the intellect of Obama voters. As the saying goes "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Anyone who would vote for another 4 years of this walking catastrophe is the very definition of "exceptional stupidity".

Obama had the most successful economy in American history. Donald Trump has the WORST economy since the Great Depression. And you want four more years of THIS?????

Exceptionally stupid would be you.

Trump has done a great job as POTUS. Before this Covid crap UE was the lowest its been in 50 years. There were jobs all across this country.

As for Barry's great economy?? Guess you forgot all about UE being extended time after time. No jobs and thousands on food stamps during Barry's "Great Economy."

Another dumbass with selective memory. Carry on you whiny little shit.
 
We always hear how the US is an exceptional nation, but it simply isn't true. Exceptional nations don't have 160 people killed over the weekend in their cities. They have don't have riots and looting in the streets. Their major urban cores don't look like Hiroshima after the bomb. They don't have tens of thousands dying of drug overdoses every year. They don't have one of the most expensive education systems with one of the poorest outcomes.

I have been to 17 countries and while all of them have their set of issues, most of them don't experience the things I listed above on a scale anywhere near what we do. There was a time when America may have been exceptional, but that day is behind us. Neither the country nor the people in it are worthy of that title. The brutal truth is we've become the trailer trash of the industrialized world.

Seems to me that those who keep pushing the "exceptionalism" stuff are choosing to ignore the fact that we all have different priorities.

For many, just being happy and content in their lives is a higher priority than desperately chasing riches or fame.

So, if just being happy and content were the main components of "exceptionalism" - yeah, I doubt we'd be exceptional.

Leftist are by nature unhappy and never content. Exclude them and that categorie soars.
 
We always hear how the US is an exceptional nation, but it simply isn't true. Exceptional nations don't have 160 people killed over the weekend in their cities. They have don't have riots and looting in the streets. Their major urban cores don't look like Hiroshima after the bomb. They don't have tens of thousands dying of drug overdoses every year. They don't have one of the most expensive education systems with one of the poorest outcomes.

I have been to 17 countries and while all of them have their set of issues, most of them don't experience the things I listed above on a scale anywhere near what we do. There was a time when America may have been exceptional, but that day is behind us. Neither the country nor the people in it are worthy of that title. The brutal truth is we've become the trailer trash of the industrialized world.

We would be well above exceptional if we had the ability to kick out all the Dimwinger run cities that stuff is happening in.
 
We always hear how the US is an exceptional nation, but it simply isn't true. Exceptional nations don't have 160 people killed over the weekend in their cities. They have don't have riots and looting in the streets. Their major urban cores don't look like Hiroshima after the bomb. They don't have tens of thousands dying of drug overdoses every year. They don't have one of the most expensive education systems with one of the poorest outcomes.

I have been to 17 countries and while all of them have their set of issues, most of them don't experience the things I listed above on a scale anywhere near what we do. There was a time when America may have been exceptional, but that day is behind us. Neither the country nor the people in it are worthy of that title. The brutal truth is we've become the trailer trash of the industrialized world.

Your including democrats run cities in America.. democrats are anti American, and we are trying to handle that. Please excuse the mess during reconstruction
 
America is Exceptional, primarily because of your Constitution, culture of forgiveness, open debate and opportunity in a more Free Market system. Some wish to change that.

As for crime, the more free a society, the more you should expect, especially when some are convinced by other profiteers that they can't make it due to their race, or economic status. There are many people who profit from crime, and I'm not talking about the criminal...

They are still criminals; we just don't have a viable way to deal with modern slavers.
 

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