US politicians should not punish Russian people. Because when the USA invaded Iraq Americans were not punished.

[Toddsterpatriot]

I saw that channel. I like this video from Russia on how kindly the opponents are treated.



The thing about your Lies Russian Stooge. You only confirm what we know. Russians lie about everything. It’s in their culture. And only a fool would trust anything a Russian said ever.

Commies gonna commie.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

The godless communists?

Don’t be like the one line left-wing propagandists. There is a rich history of Russia that goes back before the communist era. Come on Lenny.

I would like some detailed responses brother. Thought out posts. What about the Russians who liberated Jews from concentration camps? All of these people who claimed to support Israel, but also hate Russia for invading Ukraine are going against the millions of Russian Jews of history, who faithfully stood by their ancestors who fought the third reich.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Boy you guys are stretching aren’t you?

The invasion of Iraq in 2003 was sanctioned by the UN Security Council. What international group authorized or approved Russia’s invasion of Ukraine again?

An invasion is an invasion. There’s a multitude of points that I made and you’re only talking about perhaps one thing. What about responding to all the other informed points sir?

Your point is also not going to cut it. Russia is actually a member of the UN Security Council. So it only goes to support the entire point of this argument, which is that the USA practiced American exceptionalism by invading Iraq but but then also sanctioning Russia for invading Ukraine in 2021 …. That’s the definition of American exceptionalism. So what that some other western countries who are also in NATO or the EU or our similar minded western countries like France and England supported the USA’s invasion of Iraq. You and everybody knows that it was vehemently criticized by tons of protesters in the west.

I mean, this is such a critical point in world history the world is watching how American exception-ists are reacting. Many of these Americans are fellow people are high on drugs every day. They’re totally feminized and brainwashed by the media. It’s an embarrassment to American history into our founding fathers, who would be against our intervention in Ukraine. It’s not sound diplomacy we were not attacked by Russia. If you are a Ukrainian, then go fight for Ukraine. That’s your right. Just like it was in the Spanish Civil War. But Don’t use our taxpayer dollars to support Russia invading a third-party country.


Why didn’t Russia give $100 billion to Iraq in 2003. You can see the blatant difference. Why didn’t Russia sanction individual Americans.

Also respond to the fact that there were some good things happening when the USA invaded Iraq like Americans building schools. The same thing is happening in Ukraine. Lots of Russian soldiers are building schools and helping out Ukrainian kids. Say something good about the Russian soldiers. They are fellow Christians. They are good family people. They did not invade the USA. They are engaging in an invasion which has been practiced by countless countries throughout history.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

I saw that channel. I like this video from Russia on how kindly the opponents are treated.



The thing about your Lies Russian Stooge. You only confirm what we know. Russians lie about everything. It’s in their culture. And only a fool would trust anything a Russian said ever.

There it is basically a response of zero substance. There’s been tons of points made by me other posters and you’re trying to come in here writing one liners. They didn’t get a cut up man. I’m talking about the 1420 YouTube channel. That video is from a different channel. Yes obviously Russia is more authoritarian compared to the USA. But you did not post a video from the 1420 channel you posted something else.
Here you go



It is proof that Russia is home to a vibrant culture today. This is direct video evidence that contradicts the lazy drug addicted McDonald’s, eating Americans, who just believe everything the media, tell them who believe everything that the Ukrainian authoritarian state tells them.


But again, though your responses simply won’t cut it respond to the points I have made with more details and stop using the personal attacks. I’ve said nothing negative about you.

 

[skews13]

Drug problem and porn along with the feminization of men has ZOMBIFIED many Americans.

Most, especially this is the case with the hard-core pro-Ukrainian supporters in America. Many of them don’t know much about the history of Ukraine. They don’t understand that it was once part of the Soviet Union. Some of them might not understand anything about Ukraine other than a few points They learn on CNN or Fox News.

For example, some Americans, who support Ukraine, believe that every Russian is a brain, dead supporter of Putin. That’s blatantly not the case simply look at YouTube the 1420 channel where Russians are interviewed on the streets of Moscow and they vehemently criticize Putin.

The only thing we need to know is Putin will not be allowed to invade and occupy a European country.

Long range missiles will be coming to Ukraine soon, those Russians on the street will soon be getting a taste of Putins crimes.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

The only thing we need to know is Putin will not be allowed to invade and occupy a European country.

Long range missiles will be coming to Ukraine soon, those Russians on the street will soon be getting a taste of Putins crimes.

Russia invading ukraine has no effect on America. There is a war in Ukraine , but war is a part of human history. Many countries have gone to war. And so when the USA invaded Iraq, Russia did not give missiles to Iraq. We should not give weapons or missiles to Ukraine to fight Russians. It’s bad foreign policy it’s not the right way forward.

If Russia attacks us Sure, it’s a different story. That’s not gonna happen though. Makes no logical sense.

Whatever opinion you might have on who’s going to win the Russia Ukraine war OK, so be it that’s fine. But if you want to try and call Russia a uniquely evil country in the annals of history, that just will not stand up to history. Every country that we can think of has gone to war.

That’s my point here and also that Russia invading Ukraine has zero effect on our lives as Americans just like when America invaded Iraq it had zero effect on the lives of people living in Moscow.

 

[SavannahMann]

An invasion is an invasion. There’s a multitude of points that I made and you’re only talking about perhaps one thing. What about responding to all the other informed points sir?

Your point is also not going to cut it. Russia is actually a member of the UN Security Council. So it only goes to support the entire point of this argument, which is that the USA practiced American exceptionalism by invading Iraq but but then also sanctioning Russia for invading Ukraine in 2021 …. That’s the definition of American exceptionalism. So what that some other western countries who are also in NATO or the EU or our similar minded western countries like France and England supported the USA’s invasion of Iraq. You and everybody knows that it was vehemently criticized by tons of protesters in the west.

I mean, this is such a critical point in world history the world is watching how American exception-ists are reacting. Many of these Americans are fellow people are high on drugs every day. They’re totally feminized and brainwashed by the media. It’s an embarrassment to American history into our founding fathers, who would be against our intervention in Ukraine. It’s not sound diplomacy we were not attacked by Russia. If you are a Ukrainian, then go fight for Ukraine. That’s your right. Just like it was in the Spanish Civil War. But Don’t use our taxpayer dollars to support Russia invading a third-party country.


Why didn’t Russia give $100 billion to Iraq in 2003. You can see the blatant difference. Why didn’t Russia sanction individual Americans.

Also respond to the fact that there were some good things happening when the USA invaded Iraq like Americans building schools. The same thing is happening in Ukraine. Lots of Russian soldiers are building schools and helping out Ukrainian kids. Say something good about the Russian soldiers. They are fellow Christians. They are good family people. They did not invade the USA. They are engaging in an invasion which has been practiced by countless countries throughout history.

So no international authorization. Got it. How about the build up? America spent the better part of a year publicly stating their reasons to invade. Russia spent a couple months denying it until after their troops crossed the border. In fact, didn’t Russia call everyone who was warning that the Russians would invade a liar?

You lie about everything. And you claim that Russians are good and honest. Nonsense. They are bastards ruled by a dictator of their own choosing. This is what they want. And international sanctions are the very least we can do to demonstrate the outrage the world feels at the barbaric Russians raping their way through the Ukrainian people.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

So no international authorization. Got it. How about the build up? America spent the better part of a year publicly stating their reasons to invade. Russia spent a couple months denying it until after their troops crossed the border. In fact, didn’t Russia call everyone who was warning that the Russians would invade a liar?

You lie about everything. And you claim that Russians are good and honest. Nonsense. They are bastards ruled by a dictator of their own choosing. This is what they want. And international sanctions are the very least we can do to demonstrate the outrage the world feels at the barbaric Russians raping their way through the Ukrainian people.

Here it is more rude language, and personal attacks. You’re making yourself look very bad when I’ve said nothing negative about you. Cut it out or not just try and be civil.


The USA had western allies that were already members of the western culture. It’s no surprise that they authorized the US invasion of Iraq. Don’t you understand something Russia is a member of the UN security council, the very security council you brought up.

And the United States launches strikes against countries whenever it wants. We have the most militarized country in the world so that is a direct counterpoint to your claims about Russia calling people liars for saying that they would invade Ukraine. Obviously Russia changed its mind. Something went wrong. Maybe if Trump was an office none of this would’ve happened. Again, though this is one point that is part of a series of many points being made that you never responded to.

Please respond to the other points. And respond to other posters, who brought up informative points that run counter to your ideology.

Wow holy Toledo you’re saying Russians as in Russian people people are dishonest. One am I dealing with here like are you are a nazi or something? That’s totally insane man.

You’re calling Russians bastards. Who are you? Really are you an Eastern European.? And it’s OK if you are but it’s unfortunate that you are holding these racist ideologies. I don’t think about Ukrainians in general like that. I’m starting to wonder if it’s worth it to have a conversation with you one because you’re not responding to the many points that myself and other posters have made. Two you’re going back to the trolling and personal attacks in some kind of attempt to drown people out.

And perhaps the biggest point. You’re not responding to the fact that throughout human history, perhaps every country has invaded another country. And so Russia is not uniquely evil for invading Ukraine it’s not “barbaric.” there’s even other wars going on in the world right now.

I don’t think this conversation is going to last long and that is on you for your constant personal attacks and now a new thing You’re racist idea that Russians are not honest. Wow like you didn’t even just criticize Putin you criticize Russians in general. Thanks for your honesty but you’re showing who you are.

God bless the Russians for liberating the concentration camps and saving many Jews in World War II.

 

[SavannahMann]

Here it is more rude language, and personal attacks. You’re making yourself look very bad when I’ve said nothing negative about you. Cut it out or not just try and be civil.


The USA had western allies that were already members of the western culture. It’s no surprise that they authorized the US invasion of Iraq. Don’t you understand something Russia is a member of the UN security council, the very security council you brought up.

And the United States launches strikes against countries whenever it wants. We have the most militarized country in the world so that is a direct counterpoint to your claims about Russia calling people liars for saying that they would invade Ukraine. Obviously Russia changed its mind. Something went wrong. Maybe if Trump was an office none of this would’ve happened. Again, though this is one point that is part of a series of many points being made that you never responded to.

Please respond to the other points. And respond to other posters, who brought up informative points that run counter to your ideology.

Wow holy Toledo you’re saying Russians as in Russian people people are dishonest. One am I dealing with here like are you are a nazi or something? That’s totally insane man.

You’re calling Russians bastards. Who are you? Really are you some kind of an eastern You’re calling Russians bastards. Who are you? Really are you some kind of an Eastern European.? And it’s OK if you are but it’s unfortunate that you are holding these racist ideologies. I don’t think about Ukrainian in general like that. I’m starting to wonder if it’s worth it to have a conversation with you one because you’re not responding to the many points that myself and other posters have made. Two you’re going back to the trolling and personal attacks and maybe some kind of attempt to drown people out.

And perhaps the biggest point. You’re not responding to the fact that throughout human history, perhaps every country has invaded another country. And so Russia is not uniquely evil and invading Ukraine it’s not “barbaric.”

I don’t think this conversation is going to last long and that is on you for your constant personal attacks and now a new thing. You’re racist idea that Russians are not honest. Wow like you didn’t even just criticize Putin you just criticize Russians in general. Thanks for your honesty but you’re showing who you are.

Yeah. I’m a terrible person ignoring the civility of lies. Yes. Russia is on the security council. And let’s check the record.

Russia voted for it. Wow.

The United Nations Security Council -- Its Role in the Iraq Crisis: A Brief Overview

On September 12, 2002, President Bush in his address to the U.N. General Assembly, focused on Iraq and its failure to comply with...

www.everycrsreport.com

So where is the international vote on Ukraine? Nowhere right?

We have lots of excuses. None of which stand up to even a modicum of scrutiny.

So where are we? Odd days Russia threatens nuclear war.

Putin friend predicts nuclear strike "most likely" coming

Viktor Medvedchuk said, "If the collective West continues to assert its right to global dominance, Ukraine's human capital will not be enough in any case."

www.newsweek.com

On Even days Russia swears they are civilized and doing good work Raping women in Ukraine.

Ukraine: Rape and torture by Russian forces continuing, rights experts report

Russian forces in Ukraine faced new allegations of war crimes on Monday as UN-appointed independent rights experts published the findings of their latest report into Russia’s full-scale invasion of its neighbour.

news.un.org

That’s the problem with your Propaganda Tovarich. We know the truth. We know what is really happening. We remember the history. And we are not fooled.

So when you report to the current incarnation of the Zampolit of old. Tell them an imperialist posted truth to blunt your propaganda.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Don’t be like the one line left-wing propagandists. There is a rich history of Russia that goes back before the communist era. Come on Lenny.

I would like some detailed responses brother. Thought out posts. What about the Russians who liberated Jews from concentration camps? All of these people who claimed to support Israel, but also hate Russia for invading Ukraine are going against the millions of Russian Jews of history, who faithfully stood by their ancestors who fought the third reich.

Maybe if the Russian people rise up and get rid of Putin, they can rejoin civilization?

 

[ESay]

That’s my point here and also that Russia invading Ukraine has zero effect on our lives as Americans just like when America invaded Iraq it had zero effect on the lives of people living in Moscow

And that again, this way of thinking is possible when you haven't read the Russian ultimatums in November 2022. Have you? These ultimatums, if accepted, would have divided NATO on 'old' and 'new' parts, and the latter one would have been put under limitations in military cooperation with the other part.

Indeed, that wouldn't have directly had a direct impact on American lives, but would have brought Russian imposed restrictions on the US' European policy and on American cooperation with its NATO allies.

While Iraq was for Russia just another country in the Middle East.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Putin has no choice over the Ukraine, and it is entirely the fault of the US that planned this whole thing out before they implemented their 2014 Maidan coup.
The Ukraine is INSIDE the Russian defense grid.
They can never allow the Ukraine to have NATO nukes.

The US did not plan any such thing.

The US did NOT impplement the coup

Ukraine's geopraphical location is irrelevant.

The US has no plan wish or desire to put nukes in Ukraine


You are a liar