New poll on does Obama love America

"Duty" is not "love". Neither is "ethics". You don't have to "love" an action you take because it's the ethical thing to do; you do it because it's ethical. You don't do your duty because you "love" it--- sometimes you may actually hate it. You do it because it's your duty.

"Love" is irrelevant to these. As it is to governing -- or for that matter doing most jobs that aren't volunteer positions.

Can't you see the connection with Parental Love here?

What happened to love of duty as a soldier, as an expression of love of country?
Does that mean ANYTHING to you?


What about when love of duty as Father or Mother shows in including ALL the children.

What if you have a Father who has 10 children and then marries a woman who adds her 10 children to make one family.
Wouldn't you expect him to treat them all inclusively and equally to show love, and yes that INCLUDES through fatherly duty.

What if the 10 kids from his side of the family want to focus the budget on eating Mexican food,
and the 10 kids from the other side want to focus on Mediterranean food.

What if he charges ALL the kids to chip in to pay for Mexican food, and if they don't pay, they get their allowance docked to go into Mexican food anyway. But if the kids who want to invest their allowance into Mediterranean food, they have to pay for this *themselves* and STILL get docked from their allowance to pay for the other Mexican food. They are not allowed equal choice to pay for the food of their preference. And when they complain they are excluded, they get blamed for this.

Don't you see that this isn't showing equal attention and care to ALL the children?
Wouldn't the average person feel unloved or even hated?

Wouldn't you see how people would feel left out, and that this is not only NEGLECT
but DISDAIN for their interests, and deliberate DISCRIMINATION to undercut their ability to pay for their interests.
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Worse, what if you have a school district that is run by a Hindu Principal
and half the district is Hindu and half is Muslim. the Principal claims to love all the students equally.
But when it comes to the policies, the Principal keeps adopting Hindu beliefs and practices and excluding the Muslims. And even with the cafeteria food, the Principal bans beef and requires pork as the only meat they will pay for. The Muslims say this is against their beliefs, but the Principal ignores that as not an issue, and runs around receiving cheers and applause and adoration of the Hindu students. And blames the Muslim students for complaining the Principal is biased towards Hindus, claims it is "obstruction for power" and nothing to do with beliefs.

Are you really going to say that Principal loves the students equally?
 
Uncensored2008 what you consider left
is rightwing to the people on the left.

Nonsense.

If you prefer calling them the Obama media or DNC media, that's fine - but these groups are a propaganda wing of the democrats, not a reliable source of fact.


Why do you think both sides are crying out the media is sold out to the other side?
It doesn't represent either side, but just stirs enough angst to generate ratings and votes.
The media is commercially biased, and profits off conflicts, not solutions.
That is why the left and right get painted in the worst possible light to trigger public outroar.

The majority of the media openly pimps the democrats and their agenda.
 
Uncensored2008 what you consider left
is rightwing to the people on the left.

Nonsense.

If you prefer calling them the Obama media or DNC media, that's fine - but these groups are a propaganda wing of the democrats, not a reliable source of fact.


Why do you think both sides are crying out the media is sold out to the other side?
It doesn't represent either side, but just stirs enough angst to generate ratings and votes.
The media is commercially biased, and profits off conflicts, not solutions.
That is why the left and right get painted in the worst possible light to trigger public outroar.

The majority of the media openly pimps the democrats and their agenda.

YES there is a SPLIT between the politicized LIBERALS like Clinton(s) and Obama that just want to get elected.

And the REAL progressives who work with the Greens, Peace and Justice, Social change on a grassroots level.

Man, if the Republicans and Conservatives were SMART they'd find a way to get in between
and FUND the real progressives to do all the progressive work on the grassroots levels
and quit giving the money to the PAID politicians. Buy their constituents right out from under them.
by paying to do all their environmental and microlending projects without going through govt!!!

Wow you gave me an idea. the same way the media SPLITS the Conservative vote by
pitting the moderates against the rightwing to divide the party,
the Conservatives need to help the REAL progressive fight off their Pimps in Power and out these people.

I will share this strategy and see if that gets the right funding for the progressives
who have been trounced and sold down the river by Obama, Clinton and anyone else who runs for Office through the Democrats. All the real progressives could get the work done faster independently.
So fund that, and no more funding all this "agenda" to go through govt where it doesn't belong.

The Democrats and media have been sold out to the Politicized Liberals for as long as I can remember.

When I work with fellow progressives, it's people being run over by their own party trying to vie for power.
The Garnet Coleman's, Mayor Annise Parker just using her office to further political agenda and career.

The real progressives don't go around excluding other people for political gain.
Like how the Greens will support other party candidates that do the best job.

Need better options than just compromising and going with the Democrats who taking advantage
in pimping the Black vote, Green vote, Pink vote, Brown vote etc. just to get elected and do what LOOKS
popular even if it isn't effective in practice. it's all symbolic for show.
Money needs to be invested in the actual solutions, not empty campaigns that waste billions the minorities
cannot afford that is sucked out of the community and into campaign finances of people blowing millions to run for office.

What a mess. You remind me there is a way to step in and change that.
If the media can split the moderates from rightwing, the financiers can help lend the money buy out land for
the minorities to manage their own schools and communities and quit relying on liberal politics and govt for
schools and housing and now health care. So there would be no more need to fund liberal politicians.
\
They'd have to work for a living like everyone else, prove they can lead by working to manage schools, cities
and states and run for office based on their work records, not selling themselves to corporate interests who then control them.
 
Uncensored2008 what you consider left
is rightwing to the people on the left.

Nonsense.

If you prefer calling them the Obama media or DNC media, that's fine - but these groups are a propaganda wing of the democrats, not a reliable source of fact.


Why do you think both sides are crying out the media is sold out to the other side?
It doesn't represent either side, but just stirs enough angst to generate ratings and votes.
The media is commercially biased, and profits off conflicts, not solutions.
That is why the left and right get painted in the worst possible light to trigger public outroar.

The majority of the media openly pimps the democrats and their agenda.

YES there is a SPLIT between the politicized LIBERALS like Clinton(s) and Obama that just want to get elected.

And the REAL progressives who work with the Greens, Peace and Justice, Social change on a grassroots level.

Man, if the Republicans and Conservatives were SMART they'd find a way to get in between
and FUND the real progressives to do all the progressive work on the grassroots levels
and quit giving the money to the PAID politicians. Buy their constituents right out from under them.
by paying to do all their environmental and microlending projects without going through govt!!!

Wow you gave me an idea. the same way the media SPLITS the Conservative vote by
pitting the moderates against the rightwing to divide the party,
the Conservatives need to help the REAL progressive fight off their Pimps in Power and out these people.

I will share this strategy and see if that gets the right funding for the progressives
who have been trounced and sold down the river by Obama, Clinton and anyone else who runs for Office through the Democrats. All the real progressives could get the work done faster independently.
So fund that, and no more funding all this "agenda" to go through govt where it doesn't belong.

The Democrats and media have been sold out to the Politicized Liberals for as long as I can remember.

When I work with fellow progressives, it's people being run over by their own party trying to vie for power.
The Garnet Coleman's, Mayor Annise Parker just using her office to further political agenda and career.

The real progressives don't go around excluding other people for political gain.
Like how the Greens will support other party candidates that do the best job.

Need better options than just compromising and going with the Democrats who taking advantage
in pimping the Black vote, Green vote, Pink vote, Brown vote etc. just to get elected and do what LOOKS
popular even if it isn't effective in practice. it's all symbolic for show.
Money needs to be invested in the actual solutions, not empty campaigns that waste billions the minorities
cannot afford that is sucked out of the community and into campaign finances of people blowing millions to run for office.

What a mess. You remind me there is a way to step in and change that.
If the media can split the moderates from rightwing, the financiers can help lend the money buy out land for
the minorities to manage their own schools and communities and quit relying on liberal politics and govt for
schools and housing and now health care. So there would be no more need to fund liberal politicians.
\
They'd have to work for a living like everyone else, prove they can lead by working to manage schools, cities
and states and run for office based on their work records, not selling themselves to corporate interests who then control them.

FWIW, I don't hate anyone. Suffering fools isn't my forte' ... (reference to earlier in the thread).
 
Exactly what obama is doing when he refuses to identify the enemy as radical muslim terrorists.

While bombing and leading a coalition against them with the goal of destroying them/ That's some comfort.

Apparently the bar for defining "aid and comfort" is adjustable for the occasion.
And has a heluva range.

We have no evidence he's conducting any sort of effective bombing campaigns. Not even drone attacks. He does think killing our way out of this problem isn't the answer....even though if anyone needed killing, it's these ISIS bastards. Nope, Obama thinks we could end this by finding them jobs.
 
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I wouldn't expect any less from the ODS stricken rightwingers of this country. The shocking thing is that, in a Rasmussen poll, only 35% said he doesn't love his country.
ONLY 35%??? That's a huge number.

Bet you could make some racist demographics out of it too.
The race card died years ago, the only racist we have left are democrats.
Are you this stupid or just full of shit?
No, you're that stupid. Sorry.
 
The fact is all those people who some in this thread want to disdain have the same number of votes as you do --1 and the fact the 49% feel the way they do is significant. No two ways around it and I don't think there is another president who a number anywhere near close to that would say that about no matter how much they disagreed with the guy.

Its a big deal.
Similar polls said that Romney was going to win the election.

Why are you harping about Romney?

I'm more concerned that people understand the Constitution.

Obama has not helped by teaching people that one pass through Congress and Courts
makes a bill PERMANENT on the same level as the "law of the land."

That's what my coworkers thought. They thought you can't change the law after that
because Obama declared it the law of the land, on the same level of the Constitution.

And they took that LITERALLY. They really feel they have no power to change or
challenge anything but depend on parties or elected leaders to pass "any law they want to."
So of course they depend on Obama since they don't relate to anyone else in these parties. And they think THAT is what decides government, instead of relying on the Constitution as the standards. They never even read it and was told "by Obama supporters" that it no longer applies to today because it is outdated.
It should have been obvious.
 
I wouldn't expect any less from the ODS stricken rightwingers of this country. The shocking thing is that, in a Rasmussen poll, only 35% said he doesn't love his country.
ONLY 35%??? That's a huge number.

Bet you could make some racist demographics out of it too.
The race card died years ago, the only racist we have left are democrats.
Are you this stupid or just full of shit?
No, you're that stupid. Sorry.
You ate the one making stupid statements.
 
I wouldn't expect any less from the ODS stricken rightwingers of this country. The shocking thing is that, in a Rasmussen poll, only 35% said he doesn't love his country.
The shocking thing is you pay any creedence to a Rasmussen poll.
 
ONLY 35%??? That's a huge number.

Bet you could make some racist demographics out of it too.
The race card died years ago, the only racist we have left are democrats.
Are you this stupid or just full of shit?
No, you're that stupid. Sorry.
You ate the one making stupid statements.
He ate him?

Just for making stupid statements?

Kind of harsh...don't you think?
 
Bet you could make some racist demographics out of it too.
The race card died years ago, the only racist we have left are democrats.
Are you this stupid or just full of shit?
No, you're that stupid. Sorry.
You ate the one making stupid statements.
He ate him?

Just for making stupid statements?

Kind of harsh...don't you think?
That was a spelling mistake.
 
How many conservatives, in any poll about Obama are going to reply favorably?

You could have a poll "Is Obama worse than Hitler?" and 35 % conservatives will agree

... And 25% of Americans may answer the "sun revolves around the earth."
1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth Survey Says The Two-Way NPR

But that's not what the question was.

If people don't have confidence the President loves, understands, INCLUDES and represents
what they love about America, that's how many don't have faith in this government.

He can love America all he can, but if he has failed relations with half the country, that's a problem.

He deals with a rightwing media tha has convinced 35% of the population that Obama is the devil

They will reply as such to any question
That's great since 15 years ago you had 100% of the media. We are doing fine at 35% now. Good bye liberalism!
ONLY 35%??? That's a huge number.

Bet you could make some racist demographics out of it too.
The race card died years ago, the only racist we have left are democrats.
Are you this stupid or just full of shit?
No, you're that stupid. Sorry.
You ate the one making stupid statements.
I'm ate? Lol talk about stupid.
 
I cannot imagine a poll on any leader anywhere which asks if a leader loves his country. I cannot imagine a poll where a significant number says he doesn't.

The "Age of Obama"indeed.

Exactly -- it's more like a poll on Rudy Giuliani.
Giuliani is telling the truth, if the media did it's job to begin with. Obama would still be a senator.
If the media did their job, Obama would still be slingin' crack or in jail.
 
The race card died years ago, the only racist we have left are democrats.
Are you this stupid or just full of shit?
No, you're that stupid. Sorry.
You ate the one making stupid statements.
He ate him?

Just for making stupid statements?

Kind of harsh...don't you think?
That was a spelling mistake.

Well, nobody's perfect.
 
How many conservatives, in any poll about Obama are going to reply favorably?

You could have a poll "Is Obama worse than Hitler?" and 35 % conservatives will agree

... And 25% of Americans may answer the "sun revolves around the earth."
1 In 4 Americans Thinks The Sun Goes Around The Earth Survey Says The Two-Way NPR

But that's not what the question was.

If people don't have confidence the President loves, understands, INCLUDES and represents
what they love about America, that's how many don't have faith in this government.

He can love America all he can, but if he has failed relations with half the country, that's a problem.
Grubercrats
 
Here is a Rassmussen poll that shows that 35% of Americans agrees with Rudy that Obama doesn't love his country (to be clear we are now referring to the USA, not Kenya or Indonesia) and 14% aren't sure -- so almost half the country doesn't believe that Obama loves America. Those are BAD numbers for the President but totally predictable. And it also shows that Rudy was speaking for a lot of people

And before people start screaming about a Rasmussen poll, remember even if you want to assume it skews a bit to the right - they don't but fine - even at a combined 45% that's a disaster. And FWIW Obama for months has been doing better in Rassmussen's daily presidential approval poll than any other poll



Love America poll Obama 51 voters 92 WashingtonExaminer.com
He's not running again so what. Back in Ww2 we put all italian americans not born here on an enemy list. Hero Joe DiMaggio s parents were on that list. Proof the american people are ignorant bigots. Did it to japs. Didn't treat blacks or indians very well and now Arabs.
 

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