New poll on does Obama love America
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Right, I can't imagine why anybody would decline to vote for a septuagenarian cancer survivor closely associated with an administration carrying a major economic collapse and also carrying Sarah Palin as baggage, can you??
Sarcasm generator test: nominal limits exceeded
I thought you were here to parrot the Democrats, thanks for clarifying that.
I do see your point though. The media accurately reports what Democrats think of the issues, They aren't skewing the Democrat's views, they are reporting them as stated, so there is no bias.
Your concern for Americans is touching though. Hearing two sides of an issue like Fox does is confusing, even dangerous. People might start to question what they are told. Shudder
True there are worse but there are also better now. Couldn't say that until bushanomics and Reagan fucked the middle class.
Also notice companies hiring these illegals is one of the reasons for our decline.
Yes, Obama did fix the stupid Republican policies by doing the same things, only it is OK now because a Democrat's in the White House. I feel better about it too
Bush did nothing, so that's not really a comparison, but you think Obama is trying to get rid of illegals? Seriously?
"Self-certified" whould be continuously running a slogan like this....
Let's face it, when you have to go to these lengths to overcompensate, you're compesating for sump'm.
Wonder what that could be...
"Certified".
Interesting adjective.
You don't understand what they mean by fair and balanced because you are running it through your own bias.
"Self-certified" whould be continuously running a slogan like this....
Not unlike the 400-pound linebacker nickamed "Tiny".
Let's face it, when you have to go to these lengths to overcompensate, you're compesating for sump'm.
Wonder what that could be...
"Certified".
Interesting adjective.
To you fair and balanced can only be done by liberals. You asses Republican views and in a fair and balanced way you tell us why they are wrong. Of course everyone else is wrong, so no one can say in a fair and balanced way why you are wrong because of course, you are not wrong. So that would be bias.
To Fox, fair and balanced means they have both sides on to speak for themselves. Which they do. They are not claiming they are fair and balanced in reporting your views, they are fair and balanced because they have you on to speak for yourself. Something the leftstream media doesn't do for their opponents. The lamestream media has already processed the information and are only reporting fairly that the Democrats are right and the Republicans are wrong.
That went right over your head, didn't it?
You don't understand what they mean by fair and balanced because you are running it through your own bias.
"Self-certified" whould be continuously running a slogan like this....
Not unlike the 400-pound linebacker nickamed "Tiny".
Let's face it, when you have to go to these lengths to overcompensate, you're compesating for sump'm.
Wonder what that could be...
"Certified".
Interesting adjective.
To you fair and balanced can only be done by liberals. You asses Republican views and in a fair and balanced way you tell us why they are wrong. Of course everyone else is wrong, so no one can say in a fair and balanced way why you are wrong because of course, you are not wrong. So that would be bias.
To Fox, fair and balanced means they have both sides on to speak for themselves. Which they do. They are not claiming they are fair and balanced in reporting your views, they are fair and balanced because they have you on to speak for yourself. Something the leftstream media doesn't do for their opponents. The lamestream media has already processed the information and are only reporting fairly that the Democrats are right and the Republicans are wrong.
That went right over your head, didn't it?
It kinda did. Because in the second person present tense it would be "you ass". Asses would be present tense third person -- "I ass; you ass; he/she/it asses".
If ass were a verb.
I don't give a shit about what the Dem-Rep score is as they run it up. I just observe that the referees are throwing the game.
After all -- pretty hard to live this down....
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I think the ones that are already here aren't going to go. They've been here too long. They have kids here now. I get it. Plus he wants the Latino vote. I do too. Plus we need the taxes. They aren't paying taxes now. So get them on the books.
Listen. If we really wanted them gone we could find them and deport them. But we don't allow officers to profile or even to bother with deporting. Most police say , "that's not my job". So the scam or con is on brother. They like the cheap labor and they aren't going to stop hiring them. Lets take a persons home and business away from them if they get caught hiring illegals. You can't be an illegal and work in Switzerland. It would not happen there. But we have a culture of corporations who like hiring cheap labor. Next you'll be arguing Jobs Americans Won't Do.
Liberals may want to let illegals stay, but we aren't paying their wages or salaries. We can't wish them here or gone. We have to stop paying them. If they job disappears so do they. And since we probably won't do that, **** it make them legal. They're white enough and Christians right?
Why don't you want to make 1 million Mexicans officially Mexican Americans? Are you agreeing with us liberals that the planet is over populated? Good!
We have too many retirees and not enough workers to pay their ss because we borrowed all the money they put into it. We need more workers unfortunately. Are you arguing for raising your taxes instead of bringing on the help?
Are you afraid of the low skilled low wage workers? It does bring everyone's wages down when we have more workers than jobs.
I see it both ways.
Of course Obama loves America. That's the definition of Liberal Democratic Progressive. Bush and the GOP love Free Market Capitalism. **** America this is an international love baby. They're taking over the world not worried about middle class Americans who just so happen to be the highest paid workers in the world. Its all about labor costs. They had to do something about that and they did. NAFTA.
Liberals understand Corporations and the rich are vital to America but we know to keep them on a short leash. They only care about money. That's the definition of a corporation. A corporation doesn't care about charity, god or this country above itself.
So Obama was exporting illegals now he wants them to stay. And I keep saying liberals are flip floppers. Wow, what was I thinking?
I didn't take a position on that. Instead of making up my view, if you want to know, ask what I think, don't tell me what I think. I pointed out that liberals flip flop on the same issue based on who is President. You confirmed that
I don't get the purpose of snarky questions that have nothing to do with anything I said
You do understand how politics work, right?
But let me tell you a brief history on this. Until Reagan, migrants came and went at the end of the pickin season. Then all of the sudden they stopped leaving and 1 million became 10 million. Guys like Romney hired illegals for the cheap labor and to ultimately lower middle class wages. Look at the number of times Clinton busted illegal employers vs Bush to see which party is actually making an effort.
Stop being so blind you don't see it is your own party that wants the illegals here. But they want to keep them illegal too.
Reclaiming the Issues It s an Illegal Employer Problem Thom Hartmann
"Between 1999 and 2003, work-site enforcement operations were scaled back 95 percent by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which subsequently was merged into the Homeland Security Department. The number of employers prosecuted for unlawfully employing immigrants dropped from 182 in 1999 to four in 2003, and fines collected declined from $3.6 million to $212,000, according to federal statistics.
"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."
- See more at: Reclaiming the Issues It s an Illegal Employer Problem Thom Hartmann
Now go ahead and argue that Bush didn't stop looking on purpose you dishonest right wingers.
The Republican party is split on immigration
Today s Immigration Battle Corporatists vs. Racists and Labor is Left Behind Thom Hartmann
Today s Immigration Battle Corporatists vs. Racists and Labor is Left Behind Thom Hartmann
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