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The inquisition was a backlash to the Muslim invasion of Spain and Southern Europe. In an effort to make those lands Christian again, all Muslims and Jews were ordered to convert or leave, however, it did not stop there.Can you see Jesus saying that?Christian minorities are under attack by Muslim savages, and the last thing Christians would want is for intolerant, violent, medieval Muslim barbarians to gain control of the the Holyland.
And what was The Inquisition about?In fact the Crusades were all about doing just that.
Thank you for responding without all the vitriol.The inquisition was a backlash to the Muslim invasion of Spain and Southern Europe. In an effort to make those lands Christian again, all Muslims and Jews were ordered to convert or leave, however, it did not stop there.
In essence all the Christian violent movements such as the Crusades and Inquisition were mainly a response to rid the Muslim invaders from Christian Europe.
No you dispelled jackshit. You listed a bunch of Jews some of which who aren't even Jewish.That is the myth I am dispelling in this thread.Zionism is an integral part of judaism.
Almost every jewish prayer includes Israel.
Not so, almost every Jewish prayer includes JERUSALEM, not the modern politico/military nation state of Israel.
Jesus said he will reappear as the Messiah in the Old Testament". It will be in Zion, under the control of a Jews, exactly as the prophecy in the Old Testament predicted. Do you think Jesus would be happy to see that Arab Muslims have taken over the land that God promised to his people, and practicing an alien faith? I seriously doubt thatCan you see Jesus saying that?Christian minorities are under attack by Muslim savages, and the last thing Christians would want is for intolerant, violent, medieval Muslim barbarians to gain control of the the Holyland.
And what was The Inquisition about?In fact the Crusades were all about doing just that.
Can I give it a shot?Since you felt compelled to neg me for the above post, PW - why don't you explain to everyone what I posted above which is inaccurate? And please do give some citations for your assertions. I'd also like to know what kind of background you've got in Jewish studies.....
That's not what I asked you.Jesus said he will reappear as the Messiah in the Old Testament". It will be in Zion, under the control of a Jews, exactly as the prophecy in the Old Testament predicted. Do you think Jesus would be happy to see that Arab Muslims have taken over the land that God promised to his people, and practicing an alien faith? I seriously doubt that
We're gonna kick your ass in World Cup!Gilad Atzmon, the last one on that list, has been accused of anti Semitism, even though he is Jewish. He is a MASSIVE scumbag.
"Atzmon has defined himself variously as a "secular Jew",[3] a "proud self-hating Jew",[50][51] an "ex-Jew"[52] "a Jew who hates Judaism"[53][54] and "a Hebrew-speaking Palestinian.
'Atzmon has compared the Jewish Ideology to that of the Nazis.'
Gilad Atzmon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Zionism is a political religious movement based on a religious belief. Torah Jews do not represent worldwide Jewry, which is 99.9999% Zionist. There cannot be a Judaism without Zionism. In fact the Torah Jews are Zionist as well, however have a different interpretation of the timing.Can I give it a shot?Since you felt compelled to neg me for the above post, PW - why don't you explain to everyone what I posted above which is inaccurate? And please do give some citations for your assertions. I'd also like to know what kind of background you've got in Jewish studies.....
First off, my qualifications:
White, Irish Catholic - who is required to drink (by law) = non-Jew
Secondly, my arguments:
1) Zionism is a political movement, not a religious one
2) If Zionism had anything to do with Judaism, then why are Torah Jews against it?
3) If Zionism did equal Judaism, then why is it in violation of The Three Oaths?
Man, was that easy!
Yes, we all welcome the Messiah when He returns.
But that isn't what we have got going on in Israel now.
And I really think it is doubtful that these Hasidim referenced would have expelled every Arab.
It is obviously doubtful that they would have established a state AT ALL!
Can I give it a shot?Since you felt compelled to neg me for the above post, PW - why don't you explain to everyone what I posted above which is inaccurate? And please do give some citations for your assertions. I'd also like to know what kind of background you've got in Jewish studies.....
First off, my qualifications:
White, Irish Catholic - who is required to drink (by law) = non-Jew
Secondly, my arguments:
1) Zionism is a political movement, not a religious one
2) If Zionism had anything to do with Judaism, then why are Torah Jews against it?
3) If Zionism did equal Judaism, then why is it in violation of The Three Oaths?
Man, was that easy!
Zionism is a political religious movement based on a religious belief. Torah Jews do not represent worldwide Jewry, which is 99.9999% Zionist. There cannot be a Judaism without Zionism. In fact the Torah Jews are Zionist as well, however have a different interpretation of the timing.Can I give it a shot?Since you felt compelled to neg me for the above post, PW - why don't you explain to everyone what I posted above which is inaccurate? And please do give some citations for your assertions. I'd also like to know what kind of background you've got in Jewish studies.....
First off, my qualifications:
White, Irish Catholic - who is required to drink (by law) = non-Jew
Secondly, my arguments:
1) Zionism is a political movement, not a religious one
2) If Zionism had anything to do with Judaism, then why are Torah Jews against it?
3) If Zionism did equal Judaism, then why is it in violation of The Three Oaths?
Man, was that easy!
Jews have been praying and getting buried towards Jerusalem / Zion for 3000 years. Jews take oaths to never forget Jerusalem and the Laws of Moses during marriage and various religious ceremonies. The Biblical Star of David, known as the star of Zion, is placed in the Israeli national flag.
You'd have to be pretty ignorant to claim that "Judaism has nothing to do with Zionism".
99.990999% Zionist, huh?
Then why do I keep meeting Jews who will tell me that they do NOT support Israel's policies, or even its existence as an exclusivist Jewish state?
I must just be lucky.
The Torah Jews are against it?
That's the funniest crap I've ever heard.
Read the sources and see who, though. Of course not all Orthodox Jews are anti-Zionist. Severral segments are, though.
According to the 3 Oaths, Jews are to remain in exile, until God comes back down to earth.The Torah Jews are against it?
That's the funniest crap I've ever heard.
According to the 3 Oaths, Jews are to remain in exile, until God comes back down to earth.The Torah Jews are against it?
That's the funniest crap I've ever heard.
Because HE told me HE didn't in an email a week ago, Tuesday.And how do you know that God didn't come back to earthe and create Israel??
According to the 3 Oaths, Jews are to remain in exile, until God comes back down to earth.The Torah Jews are against it?
That's the funniest crap I've ever heard.
And how do you know that God didn't come back to earthe and create Israel??
