Jesus was a rich conservative industrialist

[Smilebong]

Jesus,
Was he poor.
The most powerful man in the world, poor? A Liberal?

Nope, not at all.

Jesus's advice results in record profit for early fisherman.

John 21 - Jesus and the Miraculous Catch of Fish - Bible Gateway

Jesus and the Miraculous Catch of Fish

21 Afterward Jesus appeared again to his disciples, by the Sea of Galilee.[a] It happened this way: 2 Simon Peter, Thomas (also known as Didymus), Nathanael from Cana in Galilee, the sons of Zebedee, and two other disciples were together. 3 “I’m going out to fish,” Simon Peter told them, and they said, “We’ll go with you.” So they went out and got into the boat, but that night they caught nothing.

4 Early in the morning, Jesus stood on the shore, but the disciples did not realize that it was Jesus.

5 He called out to them, “Friends, haven’t you any fish?”

“No,” they answered.

6 He said, “Throw your net on the right side of the boat and you will find some.” When they did, they were unable to haul the net in because of the large number of fish.

7 Then the disciple whom Jesus loved said to Peter, “It is the Lord!” As soon as Simon Peter heard him say, “It is the Lord,” he wrapped his outer garment around him (for he had taken it off) and jumped into the water. 8 The other disciples followed in the boat, towing the net full of fish, for they were not far from shore, about a hundred yards.[c] 9 When they landed, they saw a fire of burning coals there with fish on it, and some bread.

10 Jesus said to them, “Bring some of the fish you have just caught.” 11 So Simon Peter climbed back into the boat and dragged the net ashore. It was full of large fish, 153, but even with so many the net was not torn. 12 Jesus said to them, “Come and have breakfast.” None of the disciples dared ask him, “Who are you?” They knew it was the Lord. 13 Jesus came, took the bread and gave it to them, and did the same with the fish. 14 This was now the third time Jesus appeared to his disciples after he was raised from the dead.

Yes, early in history, Jesus proves the value of Capitalism as a way to avoid Socialism.

It wasn't capitalsim. It was a miracle.

 

[elektra]

Jesus,
Was he poor.
The most powerful man in the world, poor? A Liberal?

Nope, not at all.

Jesus's advice results in record profit for early fisherman.

John 21 - Jesus and the Miraculous Catch of Fish - Bible Gateway

Jesus and the Miraculous Catch of Fish

21 Afterward Jesus appeared again to his disciples, by the Sea of Galilee.[a] It happened this way: 2 Simon Peter, Thomas (also known as Didymus), Nathanael from Cana in Galilee, the sons of Zebedee, and two other disciples were together. 3 “I’m going out to fish,” Simon Peter told them, and they said, “We’ll go with you.” So they went out and got into the boat, but that night they caught nothing.

4 Early in the morning, Jesus stood on the shore, but the disciples did not realize that it was Jesus.

5 He called out to them, “Friends, haven’t you any fish?”

“No,” they answered.

6 He said, “Throw your net on the right side of the boat and you will find some.” When they did, they were unable to haul the net in because of the large number of fish.

7 Then the disciple whom Jesus loved said to Peter, “It is the Lord!” As soon as Simon Peter heard him say, “It is the Lord,” he wrapped his outer garment around him (for he had taken it off) and jumped into the water. 8 The other disciples followed in the boat, towing the net full of fish, for they were not far from shore, about a hundred yards.[c] 9 When they landed, they saw a fire of burning coals there with fish on it, and some bread.

10 Jesus said to them, “Bring some of the fish you have just caught.” 11 So Simon Peter climbed back into the boat and dragged the net ashore. It was full of large fish, 153, but even with so many the net was not torn. 12 Jesus said to them, “Come and have breakfast.” None of the disciples dared ask him, “Who are you?” They knew it was the Lord. 13 Jesus came, took the bread and gave it to them, and did the same with the fish. 14 This was now the third time Jesus appeared to his disciples after he was raised from the dead.

Yes, early in history, Jesus proves the value of Capitalism as a way to avoid Socialism.

It wasn't capitalsim. It was a miracle.

Yes, capitalism was the miracle, literally. The United States of America became a nation free from the rule of Kings and Dictators, a very successful capitalist society, a society of Christians who largely followed the teachings of Jesus.

It was a simple miracle that the Pilgrims changed from a Liberal/Socialist Society to a Capitalist society thus saving the Pilgrims, thus the beginning of the World's greatest Republic.

 

[elektra]

The OP has no facts.
I don't know what you'll say, but I certainly know you're afraid to say anything.

still afraid to support your posts? where is the link?

how about that post your holding back, go ahead, don't be afraid, post it, you ain't got to wait on me.

Yes, I am so afraid, so, so, afraid to address your bickering with me, frightening you are.

That post wasn't mine. Couldn't do a link for you if I wanted to.
Not bickering.
Simple question.
Favorite translation?
Three words.

of course the post was not yours, but you picked up the defense of it, you obfuscated the thread with this endless tit for tat.

and now you demand of me to a play a game in the guise of a question? so smart you are, yes?

so forget your poor attempt at a set-up,

make your statement and see if it can stand on its own, lets see if you can defend what you think, you are predetermined, ready with a reply you want to wiggle into this thread, so have it, man up and post your post.

I anxiously await your response. I bet its a good one.

 

[elektra]

Hebrew and Aramaic are better translations than Hebrew to Greek to Latin to English

The King James version is inaccurate in translations because of clarity of meaning.

Christ spoke in Aramaic and Hebrew, both are Semitic languages..
So as you see Jesus was a Jew and a rabbi..

but it is frustrating to debate with people that have a hard time controlling their emotions and language. Name calling is not very mature or a sign of intelligence in matters of argument..

Using Bart Simpson's "kiss my ass", avatar is even less mature, less intelligent, and in this post of Moomglow's wreaks of hypocrisy.

Now, how does one engage a hypocrite in an intelligent argument, difficult I say.

 

[Toro]

If Jesus were alive today, I bet He would use an offshore Cayman LLC to defer paying taxes on capital gains.

 

[thebrucebeat]

Hebrew and Aramaic are better translations than Hebrew to Greek to Latin to English

The King James version is inaccurate in translations because of clarity of meaning.

Christ spoke in Aramaic and Hebrew, both are Semitic languages..
So as you see Jesus was a Jew and a rabbi..

but it is frustrating to debate with people that have a hard time controlling their emotions and language. Name calling is not very mature or a sign of intelligence in matters of argument..

Using Bart Simpson's "kiss my ass", avatar is even less mature, less intelligent, and in this post of Moomglow's wreaks of hypocrisy.

Now, how does one engage a hypocrite in an intelligent argument, difficult I say.

Don't see the hypocrisy in Moonglow's post, but I do see a person I'll-equipped to engage him or others in your posts that evade arguments and simply run from the discussion.
I'm pretty sure you are a sock puppet.
Your whole act has GOT to be a send up.
No one would let themselves look so stupid unless it was parody.

 

[thebrucebeat]

still afraid to support your posts? where is the link?

how about that post your holding back, go ahead, don't be afraid, post it, you ain't got to wait on me.

Yes, I am so afraid, so, so, afraid to address your bickering with me, frightening you are.

That post wasn't mine. Couldn't do a link for you if I wanted to.
Not bickering.
Simple question.
Favorite translation?
Three words.

of course the post was not yours, but you picked up the defense of it, you obfuscated the thread with this endless tit for tat.

and now you demand of me to a play a game in the guise of a question? so smart you are, yes?

so forget your poor attempt at a set-up,

make your statement and see if it can stand on its own, lets see if you can defend what you think, you are predetermined, ready with a reply you want to wiggle into this thread, so have it, man up and post your post.

I anxiously await your response. I bet its a good one.

It's a simple question.
You object to Jesus as Jew and Rabbi as depicted in the post.
What translation do you use that does not depict him this way?

 

[hangover]

This is a flame thread. Electra knows this thread is a lie, he just enjoys being a dickhead. Like Satan, he doesn't see the consequences of his evil.

 

[Moonglow]

Hebrew and Aramaic are better translations than Hebrew to Greek to Latin to English

The King James version is inaccurate in translations because of clarity of meaning.

Christ spoke in Aramaic and Hebrew, both are Semitic languages..
So as you see Jesus was a Jew and a rabbi..

but it is frustrating to debate with people that have a hard time controlling their emotions and language. Name calling is not very mature or a sign of intelligence in matters of argument..

Using Bart Simpson's "kiss my ass", avatar is even less mature, less intelligent, and in this post of Moomglow's wreaks of hypocrisy.

Now, how does one engage a hypocrite in an intelligent argument, difficult I say.

Look in the mirror.....

You do cut a mean rug, but that only shows your intellectual dishonesty to even reply to the subject at hand....By the vie, it's Bart mooning....but you can kiss my ass also...

-30-

 

[elektra]

Hebrew and Aramaic are better translations than Hebrew to Greek to Latin to English

The King James version is inaccurate in translations because of clarity of meaning.

Christ spoke in Aramaic and Hebrew, both are Semitic languages..
So as you see Jesus was a Jew and a rabbi..

but it is frustrating to debate with people that have a hard time controlling their emotions and language. Name calling is not very mature or a sign of intelligence in matters of argument..

Using Bart Simpson's "kiss my ass", avatar is even less mature, less intelligent, and in this post of Moomglow's wreaks of hypocrisy.

Now, how does one engage a hypocrite in an intelligent argument, difficult I say.

Look in the mirror.....

You do cut a mean rug, but that only shows your intellectual dishonesty to even reply to the subject at hand....By the vie, it's Bart mooning....but you can kiss my ass also...

-30-

Such a mean rug I cut, but compared to your wall to wall carpet bombing, one little rug is nothing.

Yes, the mirror, I point hypocrisy and you substitute mirror? Very nice comeback, ouch, how will I continue.

There are not very many posts that Moonglow defends, unless its a tit for tat flame war withing a thread.

I am happy to see me attacked and not my OP, the OP stands as valid.

 

[elektra]

This is a flame thread. Electra knows this thread is a lie, he just enjoys being a dickhead. Like Satan, he doesn't see the consequences of his evil.

grow up

 

[thebrucebeat]

Using Bart Simpson's "kiss my ass", avatar is even less mature, less intelligent, and in this post of Moomglow's wreaks of hypocrisy.

Now, how does one engage a hypocrite in an intelligent argument, difficult I say.

Look in the mirror.....

You do cut a mean rug, but that only shows your intellectual dishonesty to even reply to the subject at hand....By the vie, it's Bart mooning....but you can kiss my ass also...

-30-

Such a mean rug I cut, but compared to your wall to wall carpet bombing, one little rug is nothing.

Yes, the mirror, I point hypocrisy and you substitute mirror? Very nice comeback, ouch, how will I continue.

There are not very many posts that Moonglow defends, unless its a tit for tat flame war withing a thread.

I am happy to see me attacked and not my OP, the OP stands as valid.

Your OP remains brain dead and an impossible defecant on the teachings of Christ.
You have to be a parody.

 

[Moonglow]

Using Bart Simpson's "kiss my ass", avatar is even less mature, less intelligent, and in this post of Moomglow's wreaks of hypocrisy.

Now, how does one engage a hypocrite in an intelligent argument, difficult I say.

Look in the mirror.....

You do cut a mean rug, but that only shows your intellectual dishonesty to even reply to the subject at hand....By the vie, it's Bart mooning....but you can kiss my ass also...

-30-

Such a mean rug I cut, but compared to your wall to wall carpet bombing, one little rug is nothing.

Yes, the mirror, I point hypocrisy and you substitute mirror? Very nice comeback, ouch, how will I continue.

There are not very many posts that Moonglow defends, unless its a tit for tat flame war withing a thread.

I am happy to see me attacked and not my OP, the OP stands as valid.

You have yet to prove your assertion of your logical conclusion...as you have posted is opinion, I have seen no facts...

 

[elektra]

17But on the first day of Unleavened Bread, the disciples came to Yeshua and they said to him, “Where do you want us to prepare for you that you may eat the Passover?” 18But he said to them, “Go to the city to a certain man and say to him, 'Our Rabbi says, 'My time is come. I will perform the Passover at your place with my disciples'.” 19And his disciples did just as Yeshua ordered them and they prepared the Passover.

Matthew 26 Aramaic Bible in Plain English

You are referencing a 2010 copyright translation of the Bible by David Bauscher.

A copyright on scripture by David Bauscher.

you have got to be joking, Bauscher is discredited, the Bible as David Bauscher's intellectual property is a big red flag.

 

[Moonglow]

according to you, all sources I use will be discredited......c'est la vie....have a nice day.....

 

[elektra]

according to you, all sources I use will be discredited......c'est la vie....have a nice day.....

How did you choose of all people David Bauscher?

moonglow, you were never here to discuss the OP, asked about your use of David Bauscher and moonglow replies with an accusation against me, personally, failing to support moonglow's own post.

obviously moonglow knows there is no defense of David Bauscher's copyrighted work.

 

[thebrucebeat]

according to you, all sources I use will be discredited......c'est la vie....have a nice day.....

How did you choose of all people David Bauscher?

moonglow, you were never here to discuss the OP, asked about your use of David Bauscher and moonglow replies with an accusation against me, personally, failing to support moonglow's own post.

obviously moonglow knows there is no defense of David Bauscher's copyrighted work.

I have repeatedly asked you the same one question and you have never answered it but simply pelted me with all kinds of epithets and accusations, and now simply ignore the last three posts I have addressed to you.

 

[elektra]

I am of the understanding that the disciples,along with Jesus aid, caught alot of fish. But what I am missing is what did they do with that fish?

Did they sell it? That is Capitalism
Did they give some away?--That sounds a bit like socialism.

Or did they let the fish rot in the net? Now that would be Communism!!

Well, first as it states, they ate the fish.

Second, I am sure that these fisherman were not in the business of giving away fish, I think its safe to say they dried the fish, preserved the fish, sold the fish, traded the fish. They marketed their labor, their private property, as they always did.

Socialism, this was not.

Scriptural evidence?
None.
Capitalist wet dream?
Definitely!
If a man asks for your shirt, give him your cloak as well.
Then ask him for ten bucks and if he doesn't have it tell him you will finance at 25%.
You're a moron.

according to you, all sources I use will be discredited......c'est la vie....have a nice day.....

How did you choose of all people David Bauscher?

moonglow, you were never here to discuss the OP, asked about your use of David Bauscher and moonglow replies with an accusation against me, personally, failing to support moonglow's own post.

obviously moonglow knows there is no defense of David Bauscher's copyrighted work.

I have repeatedly asked you the same one question and you have never answered it but simply pelted me with all kinds of epithets and accusations, and now simply ignore the last three posts I have addressed to you.

You began your discussion in this thread by making "all kinds of epithets and accusations,"

Now, thebrucebeat, pretends to not be the one who initiated such conduct, but one who is above the fray, a victim.

Talk about nerve and gall, thebrucebeat (self beater?) begins by flames and insults yet its thebrucebeat who cries and lies when thebrucebeat is simply here to continue the insultes.

thebrucebeat, you did nothing but flame me as far as I can see, now thebrucebeat is upset I do not engage thebrucebeat.

if your question was serious or pertinent, I would address it.

yes, I ignored the last three of your posts, why not add them to all the other posts in this thread where you simply rant, rave, and flame.

thebrucebeat, you did nothing but rant, taunt and flame, that thebrucebeat now pretends to be the one slighted, is very rich and very telling of character.

thebrucebeat, you have no character, you begin by calling me a moron, and you end proving thebrucebeat to be a moron. Everyone can go back and see your lunatic ravings, rants, and flames.

someone called thebrucebeat an epithat, after thebrucebeat hurled a dozen first, and now thebrucebeat is the wounded one.

poor, poor, thebrucebeat. the victim.

 

[thebrucebeat]

Well, first as it states, they ate the fish.

Second, I am sure that these fisherman were not in the business of giving away fish, I think its safe to say they dried the fish, preserved the fish, sold the fish, traded the fish. They marketed their labor, their private property, as they always did.

Socialism, this was not.

Scriptural evidence?
None.
Capitalist wet dream?
Definitely!
If a man asks for your shirt, give him your cloak as well.
Then ask him for ten bucks and if he doesn't have it tell him you will finance at 25%.
You're a moron.

How did you choose of all people David Bauscher?

moonglow, you were never here to discuss the OP, asked about your use of David Bauscher and moonglow replies with an accusation against me, personally, failing to support moonglow's own post.

obviously moonglow knows there is no defense of David Bauscher's copyrighted work.

I have repeatedly asked you the same one question and you have never answered it but simply pelted me with all kinds of epithets and accusations, and now simply ignore the last three posts I have addressed to you.

You began your discussion in this thread by making "all kinds of epithets and accusations,"

Now, thebrucebeat, pretends to not be the one who initiated such conduct, but one who is above the fray, a victim.

Talk about nerve and gall, thebrucebeat (self beater?) begins by flames and insults yet its thebrucebeat who cries and lies when thebrucebeat is simply here to continue the insultes.

thebrucebeat, you did nothing but flame me as far as I can see, now thebrucebeat is upset I do not engage thebrucebeat.

if your question was serious or pertinent, I would address it.

yes, I ignored the last three of your posts, why not add them to all the other posts in this thread where you simply rant, rave, and flame.

thebrucebeat, you did nothing but rant, taunt and flame, that thebrucebeat now pretends to be the one slighted, is very rich and very telling of character.

thebrucebeat, you have no character, you begin by calling me a moron, and you end proving thebrucebeat to be a moron. Everyone can go back and see your lunatic ravings, rants, and flames.

someone called thebrucebeat an epithat, after thebrucebeat hurled a dozen first, and now thebrucebeat is the wounded one.

poor, poor, thebrucebeat. the victim.

Long way to go to avoid a simple question.
But I understand.
The answer will humiliate you, so go into full frontal attack mode and hope no one notices you are afraid to debate.
Good luck with that.
(I think they've already noticed.)

 

[elektra]

Scriptural evidence?
None.
Capitalist wet dream?
Definitely!
If a man asks for your shirt, give him your cloak as well.
Then ask him for ten bucks and if he doesn't have it tell him you will finance at 25%.
You're a moron.

I have repeatedly asked you the same one question and you have never answered it but simply pelted me with all kinds of epithets and accusations, and now simply ignore the last three posts I have addressed to you.

You began your discussion in this thread by making "all kinds of epithets and accusations,"

Now, thebrucebeat, pretends to not be the one who initiated such conduct, but one who is above the fray, a victim.

Talk about nerve and gall, thebrucebeat (self beater?) begins by flames and insults yet its thebrucebeat who cries and lies when thebrucebeat is simply here to continue the insultes.

thebrucebeat, you did nothing but flame me as far as I can see, now thebrucebeat is upset I do not engage thebrucebeat.

if your question was serious or pertinent, I would address it.

yes, I ignored the last three of your posts, why not add them to all the other posts in this thread where you simply rant, rave, and flame.

thebrucebeat, you did nothing but rant, taunt and flame, that thebrucebeat now pretends to be the one slighted, is very rich and very telling of character.

thebrucebeat, you have no character, you begin by calling me a moron, and you end proving thebrucebeat to be a moron. Everyone can go back and see your lunatic ravings, rants, and flames.

someone called thebrucebeat an epithat, after thebrucebeat hurled a dozen first, and now thebrucebeat is the wounded one.

poor, poor, thebrucebeat. the victim.

Long way to go to avoid a simple question.
But I understand.
The answer will humiliate you, so go into full frontal attack mode and hope no one notices you are afraid to debate.
Good luck with that.
(I think they've already noticed.)

This is your idea of a debate;

Scriptural evidence?
None.
Capitalist wet dream?
Definitely!
If a man asks for your shirt, give him your cloak as well.
Then ask him for ten bucks and if he doesn't have it tell him you will finance at 25%.
You're a moron.

Now how should we characterize your very first post? How would you respond to this.........

Oh, but now you are, "cool", and its me who is in "full frontal attack".

you have literally flipped your lid


what is really funny, is you will be back to read this, punish yourself some more, I can not wait until your next thorned barb, ouch.