What do you consider a living being? How about an angel or spirit? Are they living beings? I say they are. They just have finer materials for their spirit bodies. And, the Holy Ghost is a member of the Godhead. He's not Father God. He's not Son of God. But, He's still God. And thus has authority and power. Thus, He is a force seeing that he can be in all things, testify of Christ's divinity, comfort those who are sick and afflicted and act as a phone line to the Father and Son. This is in the New Testament.
Yeah........0 for 5 and........tell us again why would anyone believe anything your cult has to say, especially a cult that did not exist until 1872, a cult that specifically denies the deity of our Lord and Savior, Christ Jesus, the Godhead with the Holy Spirit being included as a member of the Godhead....all because they did not want to accept the promise of eternal punishment in hell's fire for the wicked...that includes those who falsely feign prophecy void of the accompaniment of "Signs and Wonders" (miracle) to confirm those prophesies?
Why do you keep showing your inability to reason? You say Jesus is Adam, a sinful person. So according to you, Jesus is a sinner and cannot be forgiven. You can't have it both ways. And, once again, you refuse to refute the fact that both Jehovah and Jesus said that "Ye are all gods." Jesus referred to himself as the very Jehovah that said to King David in Psalms 82:6, "Ye are gods." It's simple logic that Jesus said he was Jehovah, not Adam. Not Michael or anyone else but Jehovah. Why do you continue to ignore this? This is not made up. It's in your bible too.
Back to John 1:1, "In the beginning (of our universe) was the Word (Jesus or Jehovah), and the Word was with God (The Father), and the Word (Jesus or Jehovah) was God. Both the Father and Son are Gods. Or members of a Godhead. The Son is not identical to God the Father. They are separate personages. But, the Jews understood Jesus was saying he was equal to God or God. Acts 5:3-4, "But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost...thou has not lied unto men, but unto God." Thus, The Holy Ghost is also God, part of the Godhead. So, you are wrong on all accounts. There were three God's or members of the Godhead at the baptism of Jesus. I don't believe they are all one personage. I believe they are 3 distinct personages but all members of a Godhead and therefore, all called God. God is a title, not a name.
Caught with a false statement and you try to wiggle out of it. So, who do you now claim Jesus is? As far as the true God, They all are. The Father, Son and Holy Ghost are all true Gods. God is a title, not the name of King of the Universe. Sometimes the term Lord God is used. Now what? You are getting way too hung up into letters and words rather than context and logical reasoning. Let me interject something so you can better understand. "The Father said unto my Son." Elohim (The most high God) said unto Jesus (Jehovah). And, once again, Jesus told the Jews that when he was Jehovah, he said "Ye are gods." Why do you continue to try and ignore this? When you finally grow up and accept that Jesus said he was Jehovah telling King David "ye are gods" then you will finally stop with the misinterpretations of your big L and little l foul up.
Deflection: The inability to defend an argument........the attempt to redirect away from that which is indefensible.
Dont start making up lies about me. I said Jesus was Michael. I never said he was Adam nor would ever say that.
No the gates didnt prevail-No trinity religion ever had Jesus. It was made up at a council of Catholicism. No trinity was being served or taught at the first council of Nicea in 325--read it. It was added later at another council. In their own encyclopedia it states.Deflection: The inability to defend an argument........the attempt to redirect away from that which is indefensible.
Are you suggesting that the Gates of Hell prevailed against the One Truth Church of God?
There is nothing you presented from scripture that even slightly defines a CULT. Question how do the supposed 34K trinity based religions prohibit the "one true church" that self defines itself as a Godhead.........STOP THAT ONE TRUE CHURCH FROM EXISTING?
"For in Him (Jesus) dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead." -- Col. 2:9
"Forasmuch we are the offspring of God, we ought not think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone graven by art and man's device." -- Acts 17:29
"For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead; so they are without excuse." -- Romans 1:20
There can be any number of false religions.........i.e., CULTS but logic and reason conclude there can be only ONE TRUTH. The are only 2 possibilities. All can be wrong..........but All cannot be truth and preach different doctrines. Of those 34K cults, clearly none but the One True Chruch (the one that finds its doctrine within the Holy Scriptures)follow all the precepts of doctrine required by the ONE TRUE CHURCH.
Even though the word "Trinity" is not found in scripture.........it did not stop you from attempting to define it as being non-existent. While the word trinity is not used (just like the word rapture is not used).........the concept is there.
First truth from scripture that cannot be denied. The scriptures are clear, The Father, The Son, and the Holy Ghost/Spirit are distinct because each person of the Godhead can be found in the same passage of scripture at the same time and occasion. For example when Jesus was baptized by the prophet John the Baptist in the Jordon River we read, "And when Jesus was baptized, He immediately went up from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and coming to rest upon Him (that is when Jesus first began using the Miraculous Power from Heaven); and behold, a voice from heaven (the Father) said, "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." --Matt.3:16-17
Then in John 20:21-22, we read, "Jesus said to them again, Peace be with you. As the Father has sent Me, even so I am sending you (the apostles of Christ), And when He had said this, He breathed on them and said to them; Receive ye the Holy Spirit.'" Again all 3 persons of the Godhead TRIUNE are involved as identified as individual persons.
In addition to identifying the Holy Spirit/Ghost as a person of the Godhead.....Jesus, on occasion if found speaking or praying to the Father, making it clear there is more than 1 person of the Godhead (Matt. 6:9)
Then in Acts 5:3-4 we find the Holy Ghost specifically referred to as GOD. "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back part of the proceeds of this land? While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not at your disposal? Why is it you have contrived this deed in your heart? YOU HAVE NOT LIED TO MAN BUT TO GOD." When Ananias lied to the Holy Spirit..........he lied to God, as both are persons of the Godhead.
It is unambiguously clear. The Father is God (Deut. 6:4). Jesus is God (John 1:1, Col. 1:16). And, THE SPIRIT is GOD (Acts 5:3-4)
Again.......just how do false cults and religions stop the ONE TRUE CHURCH FROM EXISTING? "........and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it." (the church/kingdom that Christ founded) -- Matt. 16
There is One Body and One Spirit, just as you were called (from out of the world) in One Hope of your calling, One Lord (Jesus), One Faith (Christianity), One Baptism (Water) One God and Father of All, who is above all, and through all, and in you all." -- Eph. 4:5
Jesus is seated on the right hand of the Father until death is defeated (and Hades (the resting place of the dead) shall give up its dead -- Rev. 20:13)........after the judgment of the dead, the kingdom of God is returned to the Father. -- 1 Cor. 15:24
I think that it's Jehovah Witnesses that brings out the final eschatological occurrence.
Yes Jehovah (And why are you using YHWH? You are Jehovah Witnesses) said to David, "Ye are gods." Note, plurality. But, Jesus also said in John 10:34, "Is it not written in your law (Psalms 82:2), I SAID ("I" refers to Jesus), Ye are gods?" Now, if Jesus isn't Jehovah, how why would he say "I" SAID? Hmmmm.... It's extremely 100% clear that Jesus was referring to himself that said it to David. And, you just agreed that it was Jehovah that said it to David. So, Jehovah and Jesus are the very same person. Slam Dunk! Case Closed! Jehovah Witnesses teach false doctrine concerning who Jesus Christ is and what His purpose is.
Everyone on earth knows the ancient of Days is God. He is the only one with the right to appoint a king to his kingdom. Your teachers are fully confused-blind guides. YHWH said to my Lord(Jesus) proves he is not YHWH. When Jesus went back to heaven he sat at Gods right hand. One cannot sit at their own right hand.
Exactly! That's why their are 3 personages making up the Godhead. Jesus prayed to His Father in Heaven. Jesus is Jehovah, the Son of the Father literally here on earth during his ministry. The Holy Ghost who doesn't have a physical body so that he can testify to our souls that Jesus is the Christ. Jesus went back and sat on the right hand of the Father.
You told me but you are not an authority on scriptures. You are just parroting what those in your Church had to do, change the words to run with their false doctrine. You do know that just just a few decades ago it was in your bible. Did you know that? Did you know the words "I AM" were in your bibles. But, Christians began to point this discrepancy out and so your leaders had to make changes to your bibles. But, they have not done so with John 10:34 and Psalms 82:6. And, those two scriptures condemn your interpretation of who Jesus, Jehovah, Michael and Adam are. I notice you continue to try and ignore my challenge with these two versus.
What Hebrew scholars? I was born Jewish and didn't convert until I was 24. So, please, stop with the Hebrew scholars. There is "I AM" in every bible but your own. The perverse attempt to change the everlasting doctrine and covenant of Jesus Christ is sinful. And, it doesn't match up with what you try to ignore, John 10:34 and Psalms 82:6. Clear cut evidence Jesus is Jehovah, not Michael. Yet, you are silent on this because you know I'm right.
