Zone1 If your child is a Muslim, this is what the kid faces

[Robert W]

Christians never face this problem. My church does not believe in the Trinity. It was never mentioned in the Bible. We believe in 3 but separate. God, Jesus and the holy ghost. WE do not believe in what is not in the Bible.

Back to Muslims. This wife of a minister tells the story. The minister advises the King. He murdered his own daughter who was then an adult and spent time being educated at Columbia University in New York. She told her father she believes in Jesus. She died at his hand. He lied about her death.

The video is compelling and please check into it.

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

Well, the word Islam means "submission." You must submit to everything in the Quran or expect punishment by those that obey it. Islam is a Death Cult. It relishes in it. Deviate from it and die. Only solution to it: Relegate it to the dustbin of history like the religions of the Aztecs and Mayans.

 

[Robert W]

Well, the word Islam means "submission." You must submit to everything in the Quran or expect punishment by those that obey it. Islam is a Death Cult. It relishes in it. Deviate from it and die. Only solution to it: Relegate it to the dustbin of history like the religions of the Aztecs and Mayans.

I believe your submission is correct.

 

[leftwinger]

Or worse

 

[BreezeWood]

Christians never face this problem. My church does not believe in the Trinity. It was never mentioned in the Bible. We believe in 3 but separate. God, Jesus and the holy ghost. WE do not believe in what is not in the Bible.

Back to Muslims. This wife of a minister tells the story. The minister advises the King. He murdered his own daughter who was then an adult and spent time being educated at Columbia University in New York. She told her father she believes in Jesus. She died at his hand. He lied about her death.

The video is compelling and please check into it.

who's kidding who - the problem is the "christians" ...

those three religions have the same preamble written in their bibles - false commandments - those same religions use their false doctrines to commit self righteous crimes at will since their beginnings, they are crucifiers the o p included till they bring justice by removing those doctrines from their bibles and as the 1st century, jesus taught - to sin no more.

not everyone was an atheist that then becomes a self righteous christian - some have always been religious and know better than to read the desert bibles and become a desert dweller.

 

[ding]

My church does not believe in the Trinity. It was never mentioned in the Bible. We believe in 3 but separate. God, Jesus and the holy ghost. WE do not believe in what is not in the Bible.

Your religion interprets many things that are not explicitly stated in scripture. The Trinity is no different.

 

[Robert W]

Your religion interprets many things that are not explicitly stated in scripture. The Trinity is no different.

Such as? Will you cite for me in the Bible where you find the Trinity?

 

[ding]

Such as? Will you cite for me in the Bible where you find the Trinity?

Such as the universe was created from existing matter. Or men can become gods but women can't.

 

[Robert W]

who's kidding who - the problem is the "christians" ...

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those three religions have the same preamble written in their bibles - false commandments - those same religions use their false doctrines to commit self righteous crimes at will since their beginnings, they are crucifiers the o p included till they bring justice by removing those doctrines from their bibles and as the 1st century, jesus taught - to sin no more.

not everyone was an atheist that then becomes a self righteous christian - some have always been religious and know better than to read the desert bibles and become a desert dweller.

Will some poster translate?

 

[Robert W]

Such as the universe was created from existing matter. Or men can become gods but women can't.

My church does not say the universe was created from existing matter. Gods as told means those who are highest, including women.

 

[ding]

My church does not say the universe was created from existing matter.

I had this discussion with cougarbear. He was quite adamant that the LDS are correct.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) teaches that God created the universe by organizing pre-existing, eternal matter rather than creating it out of nothing. LDS theology holds that both matter and intelligence are eternal, having no beginning and no end, and are merely organized into different forms.

Key Aspects of LDS Creation Beliefs:

• Ex Materia over Ex Nihilo: The Hebrew word baurau (create) is interpreted as "to organize," similar to a craftsman building with existing materials.
• Eternal Elements: According to Doctrine and Covenants 93:33, "the elements are eternal," meaning they can be reorganized but not destroyed or created from nothing.
• God as Organizer: The Book of Abraham, found in the Pearl of Great Price, states, "We will go down, for there is space there, and we will take of these materials, and we will make an earth whereon these [others] may dwell".
• Distinction from Traditional Christianity: This view differs from mainstream Christian doctrines, which generally believe God created the entire universe out of nothing, whereas LDS theology teaches that God is an architect or builder acting on existing chaotic matter.

Gods as told means those who are highest, including women.

That's not how the LDS teach it. According to LDS President Lorenzo Snow, "As man now is, God once was; as God now is, man may be".

According to LDS theology the man is god and his wife is a goddess and she can't become a goddess without being married to a man.

 

[ding]

Will you cite for me in the Bible where you find the Trinity?

You can literally google that question for yourself.

To me the much more important thing is to have a relationship with all three than it is to argue with you about it.

 

[ding]

Will some poster translate?

It's hopeless.

 

[Robert W]

I had this discussion with cougarbear. He was quite adamant that the LDS are correct.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) teaches that God created the universe by organizing pre-existing, eternal matter rather than creating it out of nothing. LDS theology holds that both matter and intelligence are eternal, having no beginning and no end, and are merely organized into different forms.

Key Aspects of LDS Creation Beliefs:

• Ex Materia over Ex Nihilo: The Hebrew word baurau (create) is interpreted as "to organize," similar to a craftsman building with existing materials.
• Eternal Elements: According to Doctrine and Covenants 93:33, "the elements are eternal," meaning they can be reorganized but not destroyed or created from nothing.
• God as Organizer: The Book of Abraham, found in the Pearl of Great Price, states, "We will go down, for there is space there, and we will take of these materials, and we will make an earth whereon these [others] may dwell".
• Distinction from Traditional Christianity: This view differs from mainstream Christian doctrines, which generally believe God created the entire universe out of nothing, whereas LDS theology teaches that God is an architect or builder acting on existing chaotic matter.

That's not how the LDS teach it. According to LDS President Lorenzo Snow, "As man now is, God once was; as God now is, man may be".

According to LDS theology the man is god and his wife is a goddess and she can't become a goddess without being married to a man.

 

[Robert W]

You can literally google that question for yourself.

To me the much more important thing is to have a relationship with all three than it is to argue with you about it.

Are you defending a particular religion?

 

[ding]

Are you defending a particular religion?

Do I need to? Why would I? I am telling you that the Trinity is not a mystery to be solved. It is a relationship to be entered into which leads to peace, joy, happiness and success.

 

[Robert W]

Do I need to? Why would I? I am telling you that the Trinity is not a mystery to be solved. It is a relationship to be entered into which leads to peace, joy, happiness and success.

Repeat, not in the Bible.

 

[ding]

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My church does not say the universe was created from existing matter.

 

[ding]

Repeat, not in the Bible.

Then don't enter into a relationship with the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. I am.

 

[Robert W]

I am wrong as to the church teaching matter always existed. I happen not to believe that. However, that does not make me a bad Mormon.