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[ding]

I am wrong as to the church teaching matter always existed. I happen not to believe that. However, that does not make me a bad Mormon.

I don't agree with everything my church teaches. It's ok.

No one is all good or all bad.

 

[Winco]

My church does not believe in the Trinity. It was never mentioned in the Bible. We believe in 3 but separate. God, Jesus and the holy ghost. WE do not believe in what is not in the Bible.

Explain how Mormons and Christian can both follow the Bible, but believe in two different "Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit" beliefs.

If they follow the same Bible, shouldn't it be clear?



Mainstream Christianity (Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox):

• Believes in the Trinity: one God in three persons—Father, Son (Jesus), and Holy Spirit.
• These three are co-equal, co-eternal, and one in essence.

Mormonism (LDS Church):

• Believes in the Godhead, but not the Trinity.
• God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are three separate beings, united in purpose, not substance.
• God the Father is believed to have a physical body.

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2. Scripture​

Christianity:

• The Bible (Old and New Testaments) is the only sacred scripture.

Mormonism:

• Accepts the Bible and additional scriptures:

 

[Robert W]

Explain how Mormons and Christian can both follow the Bible, but believe in two different "Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit" beliefs.

If they follow the same Bible, shouldn't it be clear?



Mainstream Christianity (Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox):

• Believes in the Trinity: one God in three persons—Father, Son (Jesus), and Holy Spirit.
• These three are co-equal, co-eternal, and one in essence.

Mormonism (LDS Church):

• Believes in the Godhead, but not the Trinity.
• God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are three separate beings, united in purpose, not substance.
• God the Father is believed to have a physical body.

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2. Scripture​

Christianity:

• The Bible (Old and New Testaments) is the only sacred scripture.

Mormonism:

• Accepts the Bible and additional scriptures:

You are a man. Are you your son and a spirit?

 

[Winco]

You are a man. Are you your son and a spirit?

I don't believe in any Sky God.

Why the different theories from the same Bible?

 

[Robert W]

I don't believe in any Sky God.

Why the different theories from the same Bible?

Do you believe in the universe including Earth? I have no idea why the Catholics teach that they have a delightful person called GOD who is the delightful Jesus and the delightful Holy spirit. What are they talking about?

 

[Winco]

Do you believe in the universe including Earth? I have no idea why the Catholics teach that they have a delightful person called GOD who is the delightful Jesus and the delightful Holy spirit. What are they talking about?

Agree, so why the different beliefs from the SAME Bible?
If God was REAL, it should be ultimately CLEAR what the truth is.

 

[Robert W]

Agree, so why the different beliefs from the SAME Bible?
If God was REAL, it should be ultimately CLEAR what the truth is.

I like your questions. They signify you don't know and really are willing to learn. I can't explain Catholic teachings and seems you can't either.

 

[Robert W]

I don't believe in any Sky God.

Why the different theories from the same Bible?

We are not talking about the topic of if your child is a Muslim!!

 

[Winco]

I like your questions. They signify you don't know and really are willing to learn. I can't explain Catholic teachings and seems you can't either.

I have an older brother, he had 3 children.
Oldest Daughter, married a Christian Pastor.
Middle Child, another Daughter, married a Christian Pastor.
Youngest Child, Son, Is a Christian Pastor.

I have been surrounded by this Religious Indoctrination my entire adult life.

I can't explain something that religious folks can't agree upon.
I can't fathom why Catholics and Mormons follow different teaching and beliefs from the same Bible.

 

[Winco]

Then WHY did you go Off Topic in Post #7 and Post #10.

Such as? Will you cite for me in the Bible where you find the Trinity?

My church does not say the universe was created from existing matter. Gods as told means those who are highest, including women.

 

[ding]

I have an older brother, he had 3 children.
Oldest Daughter, married a Christian Pastor.
Middle Child, another Daughter, married a Christian Pastor.
Youngest Child, Son, Is a Christian Pastor.

I have been surrounded by this Religious Indoctrination my entire adult life.

I can't explain something that religious folks can't agree upon.
I can't fathom why Catholics and Mormons follow different teaching and beliefs from the same Bible.

Diversity is the natural order. Just look at nature. Apparently, God loves diversity. So different people will have different perceptions of God. But where you see differences, I see similarities. When comparing similarities to differences it's not the quantity necessarily. If all of the differences were minor or ticky tacki in nature and didn't really change the core message, they don't carry as much weight. This is especially true if the differences are of the dogmatic variety or of the cultural variety. Which are the differences I see. All major religions and even primal religions share a common, underlying truth and point toward the same "Ultimate Reality". With each having its own unique, rich blend of tradition based upon the particulars of their culture. Diverse faiths are different paths leading to the same mountaintop. Diverse traditions are "different songs to the same divine" rather than contradictory systems. Commonalities like the belief in a higher, transcendent reality. All great religions share a core of "metaphysical truths" or shared ethical principles. How can they not? Isn't virtue logical?

 

[ding]

I don't believe in any Sky God.

I don't believe in a "Sky God" - as you so eloquently put it - either.

What I do believe in is a moralistic and providential creator who is the source of all realities. As near as I can tell we exist in the mind of God.

 

[ding]

Why the different theories from the same Bible?

Because different people process information differently. Why do you believe God's existence depends solely on everyone interpreting a book written by men in the exact same way? If you want to talk about illogical beliefs, I suggest you start there.

 

[ding]

If God was REAL, it should be ultimately CLEAR what the truth is.

Why is that the measure of God's existence? Man is mostly subjective. That's why you see almost everyone arguing they didn't do wrong when they did. It's not easy to be objective. It takes a lot of thoughtfulness and work.

Wouldn't a better question be why aren't you studying what God supposedly created as a means of determining if God exists rather than illogical strawmen?

 

[DennisPTate]

I had this discussion with cougarbear. He was quite adamant that the LDS are correct.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) teaches that God created the universe by organizing pre-existing, eternal matter rather than creating it out of nothing. LDS theology holds that both matter and intelligence are eternal, having no beginning and no end, and are merely organized into different forms.

Key Aspects of LDS Creation Beliefs:

• Ex Materia over Ex Nihilo: The Hebrew word baurau (create) is interpreted as "to organize," similar to a craftsman building with existing materials.
• Eternal Elements: According to Doctrine and Covenants 93:33, "the elements are eternal," meaning they can be reorganized but not destroyed or created from nothing.
• God as Organizer: The Book of Abraham, found in the Pearl of Great Price, states, "We will go down, for there is space there, and we will take of these materials, and we will make an earth whereon these [others] may dwell".
• Distinction from Traditional Christianity: This view differs from mainstream Christian doctrines, which generally believe God created the entire universe out of nothing, whereas LDS theology teaches that God is an architect or builder acting on existing chaotic matter.

That's not how the LDS teach it. According to LDS President Lorenzo Snow, "As man now is, God once was; as God now is, man may be".

According to LDS theology the man is god and his wife is a goddess and she can't become a goddess without being married to a man.

I have to admit that this does fit with my conclusion that Energy from Quantum Vacuum has existed from all of eternity in the past and in a sense this fundamental form of energy has been organized into all organic plus inorganic forms in our four dimensional space and time continuum.

This same general rule would also apply to all other higher energetic invisible dimensions.

[Mellen Benedict]

6. The Void​

At this point of my NDE, I found myself in a profound stillness, beyond all silence. I could see or perceive FOREVER, beyond Infinity. I was in the Void.

I was in pre-creation, before the Big Bang. I had crossed over the beginning of time / the First Word / the First vibration. I was in the Eye of Creation. I felt as if I was touching the Face of God. It was not a religious feeling. Simply, I was at one with Absolute Life and Consciousness. When I say that I could see or perceive forever, I mean that I could experience all of creation generating itself. It was without beginning and without end. That’s a mind-expanding thought, isn’t it? Scientists perceive the Big Bang as a single event that created the Universe. I saw during my life after death experience that the Big Bang is only one of an infinite number of Big Bangs creating Universes endlessly and simultaneously. The only images that even come close in human terms would be those created by super computers using fractal geometry equations.

The ancients knew of this. They said God had periodically created new Universes by breathing out, and recreated other Universes by breathing in. These epochs were called Yugas. Modern science called this the Big Bang. I was in absolute, pure consciousness. I could see or perceive all the Big Bangs or Yugas creating and recreating themselves. Instantly I entered into them all simultaneously. I saw that each and every little piece of creation has the power to create. It is very difficult to try to explain this. I am still speechless about this.

It took me years after I returned from my NDE to assimilate any words at all for the Void experience. I can tell you this now: the Void is less than nothing, yet more than everything that is! The Void is absolute zero; chaos forming all possibilities. It is Absolute Consciousness; much more than even Universal Intelligence. The Void is the vacuum or nothingness between all physical manifestations. The SPACE between atoms and their components. Modern science has begun to study this space between everything. They call it Zero point. Whenever they try to measure it, their instruments go off the scale, or to infinity, so to speak. They have no way, as of yet, to measure infinity accurately. There is more of the zero space in your own body and the Universe than anything else!

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[LuckyDuck01!]

who's kidding who - the problem is the "christians" ...

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those three religions have the same preamble written in their bibles - false commandments - those same religions use their false doctrines to commit self righteous crimes at will since their beginnings, they are crucifiers the o p included till they bring justice by removing those doctrines from their bibles and as the 1st century, jesus taught - to sin no more.

not everyone was an atheist that then becomes a self righteous christian - some have always been religious and know better than to read the desert bibles and become a desert dweller.

Every religion has had its share of crap followers, even the Christians. Just think: Spanish Inquisition. As much as I admire Buddhism, even it has had its bad moments.
I'm seeing a picture of the KKK. Its founder was Nathan Beford Forrest, a Democrat and whose followers were Democrats. Democrats introduced indentured servitude after the US Civil War, as well as Poll Taxes and Jim Crow. It was a racial thing more than a religious thing.

 

[ding]

Energy from Quantum Vacuum has existed from all of eternity

Only as potential. It exists in a quantum probability state.

 

[BreezeWood]

I'm seeing a picture of the KKK. Its founder was Nathan Beford Forrest, a Democrat and whose followers were Democrats.

a christian, bible belt confederate ...

kkk is a christian only organization - and panders to the political party at those times it sees as their avenue for participation - presently overwhelmingly the republicans and their despotic christian autocracy.