Zone1 The Charismatic Movement and saving this world?

[DennisPTate]

I am of the belief that all Christians in 2026 have been set up in such a way that the power and influence of
Hollywood can be shifted over to The Bride of Messiah, the Church, and I believe that the Roman Catholic
Charismatic Movement is uniquely set up to TAKE CENTRE STAGE!

I believe that we Christians in 2026 are in a similar situation to the Tribes of Israel led by Joshua as they crossed
the Jordan River into Canaan.

I believe that the Seven Mountains of Influence HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO THE BRIDE OF MESSIAH BUT WE ARE
TERRIBLY DEAF AND BLIND AND WE ARE FULL OF FEAR LIKE THE TEN SPIES WHO BROUGHT A BAD REPORT
BACK TO MOSES!

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May 3, 2026

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I have a theory that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus wishes to bring the entire world into a whole new level of understanding and Jesus wants to use the Roman Catholic Charismatic Movement to accomplish a huge part in this massive transition.

1. Has Jesus raised up a Charismatic modern John the Baptist - Elijah type of leader in Charismatic visionary and author Pastor Rick Joyner?

Rick Joyner's "Message from the Patriarch Adam to all Mankind" makes Pastor Rick Joyner the perfect ACTOR to be chosen to play the role of a modern "Elijah" who prepares the way before the...

• DennisPTate

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I have a theory that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus wishes to bring the entire world into a whole new level of understanding and Jesus wants to use the Roman Catholic Charismatic Movement to accomplish a huge part in this massive transition.

1. Has Jesus raised up a Charismatic modern John the Baptist - Elijah type of leader in Charismatic visionary and author Pastor Rick Joyner?

Rick Joyner's "Message from the Patriarch Adam to all Mankind" makes Pastor Rick Joyner the perfect ACTOR to be chosen to play the role of a modern "Elijah" who prepares the way before the Second Coming of Jesus by fulfilling Ecclesiasticus chapter forty eight.

This message from Adam could play an important role in actually turning the hearts of the fathers to the children and the hearts of the children to the fathers, [our ancestors, all of whom are either in heaven, or Purgatory or a terrifying place in the afterlife]. Armed with the new information that is coming out at this time we can pray for our ancestors with a whole new level of intensity now in 2026."

1 And Elias the prophet stood up, as a fire, and his word burnt like a torch. 2 He brought a famine upon them, and they that provoked him in their envy, were reduced to a small number, for they could not endure the commandments of the Lord. 3 By the word of the Lord he shut up the heaven, and he brought down fire from heaven thrice. 4 Thus was Elias magnified in his wondrous works. And who can glory like to thee? 5 Who raisedst up a dead man from below, from the lot of death, by the word of the Lord God.

6 Who broughtest down kings to destruction, and brokest easily their power in pieces, and the glorious from their bed. 7 Who heardest judgment in Sina, and in Horeb the judgments of vengeance. 8 Who anointedst kings to penance, and madest prophets successors after thee. 9 Who wast taken up in a whirlwind of fire, in a chariot of fiery horses. 10 Who art registered in the judgments of times to appease the wrath of the Lord, to reconcile the heart of the father to the son, and to restore the tribes of Jacob.

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Here is that amazing message from Pastor Rick Joyner that was given to him in a visionary dream back in 1995 from the Patriarch Adam to all Mankind:

[Rick Joyner, The Call, chapter 4] :

Love Releases Life​

Another man who looked almost exactly like Abel came and stood beside him.

“I am Adam,” he said. “I was given authority over the earth, but I gave it to the evil one by obeying evil. He now rules in my place and your place. The earth was given to man, but the evil one has taken it. The authority I lost was restored by the cross. Jesus Christ is ‘the last Adam,’ and He will soon take His authority and rule. He will rule through mankind because He gave the earth to mankind. Those who live in your times will prepare the earth for Him to rule.”

“Please tell me more,” I asked, a little surprised to see Adam, but wanting to hear everything he had to say. “How do we prepare for Him?”

“Love,” he said. “You must love one another. You must love the earth, and you must love life. My sin released the death that now flows as rivers upon the earth. Your love will release rivers of life. When evil reigns, death is stronger than life, and death prevails over life. When righteousness reigns, life prevails, and life is stronger than death. Soon the life of the Son of God will swallow up the death that was released through my disobedience. It is not just living that you must love, but life. Death is your enemy. You are called to be a messenger of life.

“When the Lord’s people begin to love, He will use them to release His judgments. His judgments are to be desired. The whole world is groaning and travailing as it waits for His judgments, and when they come, the world will learn righteousness. What He is about to do, He will do through His people, and His people will stand as Elijah in the last days. Their words will shut up the heavens or bring rain; they will prophesy earthquakes and famines, and they will come to pass; they will stop famines and earthquakes.

“When they release armies in the heavens, armies will march on the earth. When they hold back armies, there will be peace. They will decide where He shows mercy and where He shows His wrath. They will have this authority because they will love, and those who love will be one with Him. What you will see through that door is to help prepare you for what He is about to do through His people.

“I know authority. I also know the responsibility of authority. Because of the great authority that I was given, I am responsible for what has happened to the earth. Even so, the grace of God began to cover me, and God’s great redemption will soon swallow up my mistake. Peace will be taken from the earth, but you are called to help restore it. Peace prevails in heaven, and you are called to bring heaven to earth. Those who abide in His presence will know peace and will spread peace.

“The earth itself will shake and tremble. Times of trouble greater than have ever been known will begin to move across the earth like great waves of the sea. Even so, those who know Him will not be troubled. They will stand before the raging of the seas and say, ‘Peace, be still’ and the seas will be calm. Even the least of His little ones will be like a great fortress of peace that will stand through all that is coming. His glory will be revealed to His people first and then through them. Even the creation will recognize Him in His people and will obey them as it does Him.

“This is the authority that I had, and it will be given to mankind again. I used my authority to turn Paradise into a wilderness. The Lord will use His authority to turn the wilderness into Paradise again. This is the authority that He is giving to His people. I used mine wrongly and death came. When His authority is used in righteousness, it will release life. Be careful how you use authority. With authority comes responsibility. You, too, can use it wrongly, but you will not do this if you love. As all of heaven knows, ‘Love never fails.”

“What about the earthquakes, famines and even wars that you said we would release on the earth? Won’t this be releasing death?” I asked.

“All the death that is coming upon the world is being allowed to prepare the way for life. Everything that is sown must be reaped, unless those who have sown evil call upon the cross in Spirit and truth. The army of the cross is about to be released, and it will march in the power of the cross, carrying the offer of mercy to all. Those who reject the mercy of God have rejected life.”

“That is a great responsibility,” I said. “How do we know when they have rejected His mercy?”

“Disobedience brought death, and obedience will bring life. When I walked with God, He taught me His ways. As I walked with Him, I began to know Him. You must walk with God and learn of His ways. Your authority is His authority, and you must be one with Him in order to use it. The weapons of His army are not carnal—they are spiritual and much more powerful than any earthly weapons. Your most powerful weapons are truth and love. Even the final judgment of destruction is God’s love extended in mercy.

“When truth spoken in love is rejected, death has been chosen over life. You will understand this as you walk with Him. You will come to understand the Spirit that He has given to you to bring life and not death. There is a time to give men over to reap what they have sown, but you must do all things in obedience. Jesus came to give life. He does not desire for any to perish, and this must be your desire also. For this reason, you must even love your enemies if you are to be trusted with the authority that He wants to give to His people.

“The time is at hand for the fulfillment of what has been written. His people have prayed for more time, and He gave it to them. However, few have used it wisely. You have a little more time, but soon the time can no longer be delayed. The time is near when time itself will seem to speed up. As it is written, when He comes, He will come quickly. However, you are not to fear the times. If you fear Him, you do not need to fear anything that is coming upon the earth.

“All that is about to happen is coming so that His wisdom can again prevail on earth just as it does in heaven. All of the evil that was sown in mankind is about to be reaped. Even so, the good that He has sown will also be reaped. Goodness is stronger than evil. Love is stronger than death. He walked the earth to destroy the works of the devil, and He will finish what He has begun.”

Power And Love​

[Rick Joyner, The Call, chapter 4]

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This sequel to The Final Quest issues a prophetic challenge to seize your destiny. Rick Joyner explores the restoration of the earth and the ultimate purpose of the Christian life in the face of spiritual darkness.

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I am convinced that near death experiencer Robert Marshall and his wife Carol Marshall who prayed for her husband and left a puddle of tears on the floor are a SIGN to all Christians that this is the time. Robert Marshall is above his flatlining body and brain and he sees his wife in a puddle of tears praying for him so Robert asks Jesus if he can go back to comfort his wife?

I believe that the near death experience of Robert Marshall and the way that Mrs. Carol Marshall prayed to Jesus for her husband is a massive sign for Pope Leo that the time is NOW for a massive Spiritual Awakening that will divide Satan's kingdom and cause it to collapse!

I do believe that it would be extremely helpful if Pope Leo were to meet with near death experiencer Robert Marshall and wife Carol Marshall who prayed with such intensity for her husband.

[Robert Marshall ] :

"Question:

Will our Pets be in Heaven?

I am happy to say absolutely! Yes!
Those who read the book “44 HOURS IN HEAVEN” already know the answer and why I am so sure. For those who have not had the chance to read the book, I am excited to share how and why my answer is yes.

On May 19th, 2024, I died 3 times and went to Heaven each time I died. When I died the 2nd time, I went to Heaven instantly. Just like the first time I went to Heaven, I experienced the love and peace, the beauty, the smells in the air, and the feelings of being connected to everything and everyone and they were a welcoming familiarity of coming home.

Unlike the first time, I was standing at the edge of a beautiful field of tall grass that had the same beautiful trees scattered throughout. Looking to my left, in the far distance, I saw the inner courtyard and my dad was still there, but this time, my mom was there.

I looked around, still in amazement at how beautiful everything was, how magnificent and bright the colors were, how warm and loving the light, sounds, and smells that filled the air were, and how peaceful and calm it was.

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It was at this time I was treated to a surprise. Our pets that we love are in heaven!

Two horses and three dogs greeted me. The horses were Carol’s and mine; their names are Shakush and Nugget.

Shakush is a pure white Arabian who has the personality of a playful clown. He would get in the arena without Carol on his back and jump and play with her like a playful dog would do, except he was a horse and much larger, but just as gentle. Carol raised and trained Shakush herself and was the only person who rode him. Carol was and still is an excellent horseperson and rider. She glides when riding, and it is a thing of beauty to watch. When Carol and Shakush were both younger, she would show him at horse shows, and they often finished in the top 3. When Carol would ride him, he was always a perfect gentleman, and they would ride for hours in the arena and open fields. While running uphill on a trail he would buck, tossing his head in absolute joy. Regardless of the hill, the gait, or his mood, Carol could always brace herself for a joyful exuberant buck.

Nugget is a buckskin quarter horse and absolutely beautiful. She did not have the same personality as Shakush, but rather, she always acted very regal and gentle. Carol would ride Nugget, and on a rare occasion, she would share Nugget with me for a trail ride. Nugget was raised and trained by Carol just like Shakush. Both Shakush and Nugget were magnificent horses and were truly a gift and blessing from God.

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Three dogs greeted me with our two horses. Two of the dogs that greeted me are named Fudge 1 and Fudge 2 because they are dark brown and sweet, just like Fudge. We named all of our dogs Fudge, so we don’t get their name wrong when a new pet joins our family. There was a third dog that approached me in Heaven with the others, but I did not recognize her. I later learned the dog was named Annie and was Carol’s dog before we met.

Fudge 1 was a rescue dog that was a sweet little dog that would run and play his game of catch me. Of course, it was only when he decided to let us catch him that we were able to. Then he would cuddle up like the sweet dog he was. It was his way of playing.

Fudge 2 was used as a bait dog prior to our rescuing him. He wanted to be sweet and loving but had some prior issues as a result of his abuse before he became part of our family. There were times he would snap or have a flashback. It took a long time and a lot of love before he would trust us. However, he eventually did, and he turned out to be a sweet little boy. He would jump around like a kangaroo. He was unbelievably quick and would spring around like a bouncing ball. He still had flashbacks occasionally, back to when he was abused and treated so meanly. When this happened, it was as if he recognized what happened and was sorry for snapping at us, that was when we got the most loving and cuddling from him. Our best efforts did not erase his abuse on earth. In heaven he’s no longer like that. He is a happy puppy running and playing.

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The third dog's name was Annie. I didn’t know the third dog's name until I was out of the hospital and was telling Carol about going to Heaven and our pets being there. It was when I described the dog I did not recognize that she said it was her dog, Annie. Carol had Annie before I even knew her. Mystery solved.

We currently have a dog, and of course, that is Fudge 3. He is a spitting image of Fudge 2, only sweeter.

So, when I say that our pets are in Heaven, it is not just a hopeful desire; it is an eyewitness account. I saw our horses and dogs, and they were as happy as they could be, waiting for us to come home."
[Robert Marshall]

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[DennisPTate]

I guess I should explain what the Seven Mountains of Influence are?

7 Mountain Strategy - Lance Wallnau

Dr. Lance Wallnau explains the 7 Mountain Strategy in this video.

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Dr. Lance Wallnau’s 7 Mountain Strategy, often explained in his teaching, is a framework for Christians to influence seven key spheres of societal culture: Business, Arts/Entertainment, Media, Government, Family, Education, and Religion. He teaches that believers should occupy leadership positions in these areas to drive societal transformation and implement Kingdom principles. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Key Aspects of the 7 Mountain Strategy

• The Mandate: The goal is to move beyond just saving souls to "discipling nations" by placing Christians in positions of power and influence (the "mountains").
• The Seven Spheres:
  1. Family: Reclaiming the foundation of society.
  2. Religion: Reforming religious institutions.
  3. Education: Influencing schools and shaping the minds of the next generation.
  4. Government: Impacting laws and public policy.
  5. Media: Shaping public opinion and communication.
  6. Arts/Entertainment: Influencing culture through creativity.
  7. Business: Influencing economy and finance.
• Actionable Strategy: Wallnau encourages believers to identify their "mountain" (area of gifting) and work to reach the top, becoming the dominant culture shaper rather than being influenced by the culture.
• Source Material: Often presented in seminars, this teaching often aims to empower Christians to take "territory" and exercise authority within their respective sectors. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

For in-depth training, Wallnau offers materials like his "7 Mountain Strategy" video courses, which often include multiple sessions on how to effectively apply these principles

The Seven Mountains of Influence | Lance Wallnau​

So what is the KEY to these seven mountains.

1. Realize that The Being of Light of Near Death Experience fame, [who I believe is Messiah Yeshua - Jesus], places essentially INFINITE VALUE on human life but......

Satan has his workers attempting to convince all eight billion of us that our lives are connected to our "Carbon Footprint" and we are in desperate need to be DEPOPULATED due to how dangerous our tendency to be PRODUCTIVE REALLY IS!

The Life Review of near death experience accounts indicates that YOU AND I are in a sense, "Stars" in a massive INTERACTIVE REALITY FILM PROJECT starring all Eight Billion of US!


Here is an important key:

"And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do." (Genesis 11)

Ecclesiastes 10:19
"A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things. "

Here is an excellent example of one of those "Life Reviews" that a significant percentage of near death experiencers report.

[Howard Storm]

4. The Life Review of Howard Storm​

Next, they wanted to talk about my life. To my surprise my life played out before me, maybe six or eight feet in front of me, from beginning to end.

The life review was very much in their control, and they showed me my life, but not from my point of view. I saw me in my life and this whole thing was a lesson, even though I didn’t know it at the time. They were trying to teach me something, but I didn’t know it was a teaching experience, because I didn’t know that I would be coming back. We just watched my life from beginning to the end. Some things they slowed down on, and zoomed in on and other things they went right through.

My life was shown in a way that I had never thought of before. All of the things that I had worked to achieve, the recognition that I had worked for, in elementary school, in high school, in college, and in my career, they meant nothing in this setting.

I could feel their feelings of sorrow and suffering, or joy, as my life’s review unfolded. They didn’t say that something was bad or good, but I could feel it. And I could sense all those things they were indifferent to. They didn’t, for example, look down on my high school shot-put record. They just didn’t feel anything towards it, nor towards other things which I had taken so much pride in.

What they responded to was how I had interacted with other people. That was the long and short of it. Unfortunately, most of my interactions with other people didn’t measure up with how I should have interacted, which was in a loving way. Whenever I did react during my life in a loving way they rejoiced.

Most of the time I found that my interactions with other people had been manipulative. During my professional career, for example, I saw myself sitting in my office, playing the college professor, while a student came to me with a personal problem. I sat there looking compassionate, and patient, and loving, while inside I was bored to death. I would check my watch under my desk as I anxiously waited for the student to finish.

I got to go through all those kinds of experiences in the company of these magnificent beings.

When I was a teenager my father’s career put him into a high-stress, twelve-hour-a-day job. Out of my resentment because of his neglect of me, when he came home from work, I would be cold and indifferent toward him. This made him angry, and it gave me further excuse to feel hatred toward him. He and I fought, and my mother would get upset. Most of my life I had felt that my father was the villain and I was the victim. When we reviewed my life I got to see how I had precipitated so much of that, myself. Instead of greeting him happily at the end of a day, I was continually putting thorns in him in order to justify my hurt.

I got to see when my sister had a bad night one night, how I went into her bedroom and put my arms around her. Not saying anything, I just lay there with my arms around her. As it turned out that experience was one of the biggest triumphs of my life.

The entire life’s review would have been emotionally destructive, and would have left me a psychotic person, if it hadn’t been for the fact that my friend, and my friend’s friends, were loving me during the unfolding of my life. I could feel that love.

Every time I got a little upset they turned the life’s review off for awhile, and they just loved me. Their love was tangible. You could feel it on your body, you could feel it inside you; their love went right through you. I wish I could explain it to you, but I can’t.

The therapy was their love, because my life’s review kept tearing me down. It was pitiful to watch, just pitiful. I couldn’t believe it. And the thing is, it got worse as it went on.

My stupidity and selfishness as a teenager only magnified as I became an adult – all under the veneer of being a good husband, a good father, and a good citizen. The hypocrisy of it all was nauseating. But through it all was their love.

When the review was finished they asked, “Do you want to ask any questions?” and I had a million questions.

I asked, for example, “What about the Bible?”

They responded, “What about it?”

I asked if it was true, and they said it was. Asking them why it was that when I tried to read it, all I saw were contradictions, they took me back to my life’s review again – something that I had overlooked. They showed me, for the few times I had opened the Bible, that I had read it with the idea of finding contradictions and problems. I was trying to prove to myself that it wasn’t worth reading. I observed to them that the Bible wasn’t clear to me. It didn’t make sense. They told me that it contained spiritual truth, and that I had to read it spiritually in order to understand it. It should be read prayerfully. My friends informed me that it was not like other books. They also told me, and I later found out this was true, that when you read it prayerfully, it talks to you. It reveals itself to you. And you don’t have to work at it anymore.

My friends answered lots of questions in funny ways. They really knew the whole tone of what I asked them, even before I got the questions out. When I thought of questions in my head, they really understood them.

I asked them, for example, which was the best religion. I was looking for an answer which was like, “Presbyterians.” I figured these guys were all Christians. The answer I got was:

“The best religion is the religion that brings you closest to God.”

Asking them if there was life on other planets, their surprising answer was that the universe was full of life.

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[luiza]

I appreciate you post with good and heartfelt intent .

However , I happen to believe that the Abrahamic religions are slap bang and wallop -- at the end of their allotted time .
Literally .

I only bother to post because I believe that devotees like yourself need to slowly be made aware of the imminent, imho , collapse of your belief system in order to help minimise the terrible shock you will suffer when it becomes universally clear that you have been scammed into a dishonest Cult .

As I am sure you know , I believe considerable disclosure re Aliens is due very soon and people may have to grapple with that huge fact plus our co-operation with many of them over the last 75-- 80 years .
The further submissions that there are alien bases on our planet already, and that separately we have off - planet bases will be almost beyond belief for most .
And totally rejected as an instinctive response to something seen as "life"( belief system ) threatening .

This scenario will of course be an unmitigated disaster for committed Cultists , and many will need help in terms of facts management and finding replacement life beliefs and practises .

BUT
I put all of that on one side -- as it were --- but go on to reference your specific belief in the Crucifixion and Resurrection of someone you believe to be the Son of God .

All of it is completely denied from the Dead Sea Scroll findings .
At its simplest , he was taken alive from the cross, though wine poisoned ---was helped to recover principally by Simon Magus wrongly remembered as Barabbas -- more correctly translated as Man of Power and Action rather than Thief .

That he later married ,had three children with the Magdalene and lived to around AD 60 is almost of secondary importance .
Enough said ---
Other than that 99.9% ?? of Christians are unaware of this History because it is heavily suppressed and deflected whenever required .

Comment please -- as they say .
And better than claiming conveniently--- but without justification --- that the Dead Sea Scrolls are untrue because "you" say so .

 

[DennisPTate]

I appreciate you post with good and heartfelt intent .

However , I happen to believe that the Abrahamic religions are slap bang and wallop -- at the end of their allotted time .
Literally .

I only bother to post because I believe that devotees like yourself need to slowly be made aware of the imminent, imho , collapse of your belief system in order to help minimise the terrible shock you will suffer when it becomes universally clear that you have been scammed into a dishonest Cult .

As I am sure you know , I believe considerable disclosure re Aliens is due very soon and people may have to grapple with that huge fact plus our co-operation with many of them over the last 75-- 80 years .
The further submissions that there are alien bases on our planet already, and that separately we have off - planet bases will be almost beyond belief for most .
And totally rejected as an instinctive response to something seen as "life"( belief system ) threatening .

This scenario will of course be an unmitigated disaster for committed Cultists , and many will need help in terms of facts management and finding replacement life beliefs and practises .

BUT
I put all of that on one side -- as it were --- but go on to reference your specific belief in the Crucifixion and Resurrection of someone you believe to be the Son of God .

All of it is completely denied from the Dead Sea Scroll findings .
At its simplest , he was taken alive from the cross, though wine poisoned ---was helped to recover principally by Simon Magus wrongly remembered as Barabbas -- more correctly translated as Man of Power and Action rather than Thief .

That he later married ,had three children with the Magdalene and lived to around AD 60 is almost of secondary importance .
Enough said ---
Other than that 99.9% ?? of Christians are unaware of this History because it is heavily suppressed and deflected whenever required .

Comment please -- as they say .
And better than claiming conveniently--- but without justification --- that the Dead Sea Scrolls are untrue because "you" say so .

Thank you Luiza, these are fascinating ideas and I have to admit that I personally have ran into evidence for what I can only think of as "Applied Multiverse Theory" that basically means that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus is willing to set in motion many Ezekiel chapter thirty seven type of resurrections, but....... they seem to take place in a moment in time.... when somebody is given a near death experience and that person works with their whole heart to do what they were told to do during their brush with death.

I strongly suspect that the near death experience account of Mr. Dannion Brinkley may have set in motion a series of events that altered the future so that by January 1, 2013, fifteen to twenty percent of North America WAS NOT BELOW SEA LEVEL?!

[Dannion Brinkley] : "BOX 12: Technology & Virus

The 11th box was gone & I was into the 12th box. Its visions addressed an important event in the distant future, the decade of the 90's (remember, this was 1975), when many of the great changes would take place. In this box, I watched as a biological engineer from the Middle East found a way to alter DNA & create a biological virus that would be used in the manufacture of computer chips. This discovery allowed for huge strides in science & technology. Japan, China, & other countries of the Pacific Rim experienced boom times as a result of this discovery & became powers of incredible magnitude. Computer chips produced from this process found their way into virtually every form of technology, from cars & airplanes to vacuum cleaners & blenders.

Before the turn of the century, this man was among the richest in the world, so rich that he had a stranglehold on the world economy. Still the world welcomed him, since the computer chips he had designed somehow put the world on an even keel. Gradually, he succumbed to his own power. He began to think of himself as a deity & insisted on greater control of the world. With that extra control, he began to rule the world.

His method of rule was unique. Everyone in the world was mandated by law to have one of his computer chips inserted underneath his or her skin. This chip contained all of an individual's personal information. If a government agency wanted to know something, all it had to do was scan your chip with a special device. By doing so, it could discover everything about you, from where you worked & lived to your medical records & even what kind of illnesses you might get in the future.

There was an even more sinister side to this chip. A person's lifetime could be limited by programming this chip to dissolve & kill him with the viral substance it was made from. Lifetimes were controlled like this to avoid the cost that growing old places on the government. It was also used as a means of eliminating people with chronic illnesses that put a drain on the medical system. People who refused to have chips implanted in their bodies roamed as outcasts. They could not be employed & were denied government services."
(Dannion Brinkley, Saved By The Light, chapter 5)

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Thread 'Eventual Universal Salvation, Applied Multiverse Theory and "inexpressible and unlawful words" given to Paul.'

Apr 18, 2026

I know that when I die and I meet with the Being of Light of near death experience fame
I will answer for every word that I speak, and write, and what I feel that I must write at this
time is playing with fire.

What did the Apostle Paul mean by "heard inexpressible words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter?"

I believe that finally in our time period a pretty good speculation can be pieced together that may well help to understand what Paul meant by this. I believe that Paul had a near death experience, [perhaps at the time that he had been stoned and "appeared to be dead." That...

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IF the theory is true that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus can and will... set in motion many fulfillments of Ezekiel chapter thirty seven through Applied Multiverse Theory......
then we are faced with the confusing possibility of TIME looking more like the roots and branches of a tree.....
than like a straight line as we had assumed in the past.

Once that possibility is understood.....
then seeming contradictions in what we think of as "history" are almost certain to occur but they are not a problem at all.

This whole idea hinges on whether or not Messiah Yeshua - Jesus can indeed resurrect all of the dead who ever lived... without even working up a sweat?

[Pastor Rick Joyner]

The Power of His Word

“You seek to know and walk in My power so that you can heal the sick and perform miracles, but you have not even begun to comprehend the power of My word. To resurrect all the dead who have ever lived on earth will not even cause Me to strain. I uphold all things by the power of My word. The creation exists because of My word, and it is held together by My word.

“Before the end, I will reveal My power on earth. Even so, the greatest power that I have ever revealed on the earth, or ever will, is still a very small demonstration of My power I do not reveal My power to cause men to believe in My power, but to cause men to believe in My love.

“If I had wanted to save the world with My power when I walked the earth, I could have moved mountains by pointing a finger Then all men would have bowed to Me, but not because they loved Me or loved the truth, but because they feared My power I do not want men to obey Me because they fear My power, but because they love Me and love the truth.

“If you do not know My love, then My power will corrupt you. I do not give you love so you can know My power, but I give you power so that you can know My love. The goal of your life must be love, not power Then I will give you power with which to love people. I will give you the power to heal the sick because you love them, and I love them, and I do not want them sick.

“So you must seek love first, and then faith. You cannot please Me without faith. But faith is not just the knowledge of My power, it is the knowledge of My love and the power of My love. Faith must first be exercised in order to receive more love. Seek faith to love more, and to do more with your love. Only when you seek the faith to love can I trust you with My power Faith works by love.

“My word is the power that upholds all things. To the degree that you believe My word is true, you can do all things. Those who really believe that My words are true, will also be true to their own words. It is My nature to be true, and the creation trusts My word because I am faithful to it.

“Those who are like Me are also true to their own words. Their word is sure, and their commitments are trustworthy. Their ‘yes’ means ‘yes,’ and their ‘no’ means ‘no.’ If your own words are not true, you will also begin to doubt My words, because deception is in your heart. If you are not faithful to your own words, it is because you do not really know Me. To have faith, you must be faithful. I have called you to walk by faith because I am faithful. It is My nature.

“That is why you will be judged because of the careless words you speak. To be careless is to care less. Words have power and those who are careless with words cannot be trusted with the power of My word. It is wisdom to be careful with your words, and to keep them as I do Mine.”

The Lord’s words were rolling over me like great waves from the sea. I felt like Job before the whirlwind. I thought that I was getting smaller and smaller, and then realized that He was getting larger. I had never felt so presumptuous. How could I have been so casual with God? I felt like an ant staring up at a mountain range. I was less than dust, yet He was taking the time to speak to me. I could not stand any more, and turned away.

After a few moments, I felt a reassuring hand on my shoulder. It was Wisdom. His glory was even greater now, but He was again my size. “Do you understand what happened just then?” He asked.

Knowing very well that when the Lord asks a question He is not seeking information, I began to ponder what had happened. I knew that it was reality. Compared to Him, I am less than a speck of dust would be to the earth, and for some reason He wanted me to experience that realization in a profound way.

Answering my thoughts, He elaborated:

“What you are thinking is true, but this comparison of man to God is not just in size. You began to experience the power of My words. To be entrusted with My words is to be entrusted with the power by which the universe is held together I did not do this to make you feel small, but to help you understand the seriousness and the power that with which you have been entrusted—the word of God.

“In all of your endeavors, remember that the importance of a single word from God to man is of more value than all of the treasures on earth. You must understand and teach My brethren to respect the value of My word. As one who is called to carry My words, you must also respect the value of your own words. Those who will carry the truth must be true.”

Meeting the Evangelist
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The Hordes of Hell Are Marching

On February the 16th, 1995 I was given a dream in which I saw a great army from hell that had been released against the church. Two days later I was given a vision in which I saw this diabolical horde again, but in much greater detail. This is an abbreviated version of the first part of that...

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Luiza... I must admit that you are correct in the sense that all of us are in for a serious humbling as we begin to see our own flaws and sins and agenda's and worship of SELF for what it really is.

[Rick Joyner, The Final Quest] :

The Evil Army

I saw a demonic army so large that it stretched as far as I could see. It was separated into divisions, with each carrying a different banner. The foremost and most powerful divisions were Pride, Self righteousness, Respectability, Selfish Ambition, and Unrighteous Judgment, but the largest of all was Jealousy. The leader of this vast army was the Accuser of the Brethren himself. I knew that there were many more evil divisions beyond my scope of vision, but these were the vanguard of this terrible horde from hell that was now being released against the church.

The weapons carried by this horde had names on them: the swords were named Intimidation; the spears were named Treachery; and their arrows were named Accusations, Gossip, Slander and Faultfinding. Scouts and smaller companies of demons with such names as Rejection, Bitterness, Impatience, Un-forgiveness and Lust were sent in advance of this army to prepare for the main attack. I knew in my heart that the church had never faced anything like this before.

The main assignment of this army was to cause division. It was sent to attack every level of relationship-churches with each other, congregations with their pastors, husbands and wives, children and parents, and even children with each other. The scouts were sent to locate the openings in churches, families or individuals that rejection, bitterness, lust, etc., could exploit and make a larger breech for the divisions that were coming.

The most shocking part of this vision was that this horde was not riding on horses, but on Christians! Most of them were well-dressed, respectable, and had the appearance of being refined and educated. These were Christians who had opened themselves to the powers of darkness to such a degree that the enemy could use them and they would think that they were being used by God. The Accuser knows that a house divided cannot stand, and this army represented his ultimate attempt to bring such complete division to the church that she would completely fall from grace.​

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[The Irish Ram]

he later married ,had three children

What were their names?

Your post is pure garbage...

 

[Parker21]

I am of the belief that all Christians in 2026 have been set up in such a way that the power and influence of
Hollywood can be shifted over to The Bride of Messiah, the Church, and I believe that the Roman Catholic
Charismatic Movement is uniquely set up to TAKE CENTRE STAGE!

I believe that we Christians in 2026 are in a similar situation to the Tribes of Israel led by Joshua as they crossed
the Jordan River into Canaan.

I believe that the Seven Mountains of Influence HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO THE BRIDE OF MESSIAH BUT WE ARE
TERRIBLY DEAF AND BLIND AND WE ARE FULL OF FEAR LIKE THE TEN SPIES WHO BROUGHT A BAD REPORT
BACK TO MOSES!

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I have a theory that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus wishes to bring the entire world into a whole new level of understanding and Jesus wants to use the Roman Catholic Charismatic Movement to accomplish a huge part in this massive transition.

1. Has Jesus raised up a Charismatic modern John the Baptist - Elijah type of leader in Charismatic visionary and author Pastor Rick Joyner?

Rick Joyner's "Message from the Patriarch Adam to all Mankind" makes Pastor Rick Joyner the perfect ACTOR to be chosen to play the role of a modern "Elijah" who prepares the way before the...

• DennisPTate

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I have a theory that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus wishes to bring the entire world into a whole new level of understanding and Jesus wants to use the Roman Catholic Charismatic Movement to accomplish a huge part in this massive transition.

1. Has Jesus raised up a Charismatic modern John the Baptist - Elijah type of leader in Charismatic visionary and author Pastor Rick Joyner?

Rick Joyner's "Message from the Patriarch Adam to all Mankind" makes Pastor Rick Joyner the perfect ACTOR to be chosen to play the role of a modern "Elijah" who prepares the way before the Second Coming of Jesus by fulfilling Ecclesiasticus chapter forty eight.

This message from Adam could play an important role in actually turning the hearts of the fathers to the children and the hearts of the children to the fathers, [our ancestors, all of whom are either in heaven, or Purgatory or a terrifying place in the afterlife]. Armed with the new information that is coming out at this time we can pray for our ancestors with a whole new level of intensity now in 2026."



Here is that amazing message from Pastor Rick Joyner that was given to him in a visionary dream back in 1995 from the Patriarch Adam to all Mankind:




I am convinced that near death experiencer Robert Marshall and his wife Carol Marshall who prayed for her husband and left a puddle of tears on the floor are a SIGN to all Christians that this is the time. Robert Marshall is above his flatlining body and brain and he sees his wife in a puddle of tears praying for him so Robert asks Jesus if he can go back to comfort his wife?

I believe that the near death experience of Robert Marshall and the way that Mrs. Carol Marshall prayed to Jesus for her husband is a massive sign for Pope Leo that the time is NOW for a massive Spiritual Awakening that will divide Satan's kingdom and cause it to collapse!

I do believe that it would be extremely helpful if Pope Leo were to meet with near death experiencer Robert Marshall and wife Carol Marshall who prayed with such intensity for her husband.

The bride of Christ is not the Church. The bride = the anointed little flock(Luke 12:32-Rev 14:3)= 144,000 are bought from the Earth. The great crowd( Rev 7:9) that no man can number are the other sheep( John 10:16) who are not of that fold.
Catholicism=2Thess 2:3, and all her branches.

 

[luiza]

What were their names?

Your post is pure garbage...

Naturally it is garbage to a Muncher like yourself who is unaware of the Dead Sea Scrolls or all of the early Gospels .

And of course it upsets your ingrained World View and your desperate need to preserve 100% Cognitive Rigidity .

BUT their names are well documented as you should know if you had even a glimmer of awareness of the subject .
But you are a Fraud , albeit unwitting .

 

[SaxonJackson]

God is the same yesterday, today, and for eternity. His plan is the same today as it was in the beginning. The Bible reveals His plan. It's written down for all to see. Read it. Study it. Believe it. Trust it. And try to live it. Prepare yourselves spiritually and physically for the trials we currently face and the more difficult ones looming over our shoulders.

Nobody but Christ and His angels will save America and the world. But mankind WILL experience the Great Tribulation before Christ's return. There's no getting around it. No denomination will stop it. In fact, most denominations are either helping the enemies of mankind or are completely oblivious to where we're currently heading.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Naturally it is garbage to a Muncher like yourself who is unaware of the Dead Sea Scrolls or all of the early Gospels .

And of course it upsets your ingrained World View and your desperate need to preserve 100% Cognitive Rigidity .

BUT their names are well documented as you should know if you had even a glimmer of awareness of the subject .
But you are a Fraud , albeit unwitting .

Don't you worry about me dear, you have some shopping to do...

 

[DennisPTate]

God is the same yesterday, today, and for eternity. His plan is the same today as it was in the beginning. The Bible reveals His plan. It's written down for all to see. Read it. Study it. Believe it. Trust it. And try to live it. Prepare yourselves spiritually and physically for the trials we currently face and the more difficult ones looming over our shoulders.

Nobody but Christ and His angels will save America and the world. But mankind WILL experience the Great Tribulation before Christ's return. There's no getting around it. No denomination will stop it. In fact, most denominations are either helping the enemies of mankind or are completely oblivious to where we're currently heading.

True....
but is it possible that in our time line......
instead of ninety percent of our children and grandchildren
being killed in warfare... famine... plague......
they could instead be burned up by The Holy Spirit............

because Isaiah revealed that "all flesh is as grass"......
and John in the Book of Revelation was shown that a third of the grass and trees would be burned up..........

Could there be a positive way for all of the Book of Revelation.... and Isaiah... and Jeremiah.... and Ezekiel.. AND Matthew chapter twenty four....... to be worked out??????

Could the Holy Spirit fulfill hidden meaning in the Book of Revelation......
that could be shockingly POSITIVE??????

3. A Successful Apocalyptic Prophecy is One That Doesn’t Happen​

The goal of apocalyptic prophecy is to warn people to prevent it from happening. The reason prophecies are given to humanity is to change current trends and change enough people so that the prophecy will be diverted. Well-known prophecies that were foretold to occur around the millennium have not happened. Skeptics point out that this proves these prophecies to be false. But a better understanding of prophecy reveals that either (a) or (b) is true:

(a) The prophecy was successful in permanently diverting the outcome by the raising of the world’s consciousness.

(b) Because the prophecy gives an exact date, the prophecy may still be valid and the date may be wrong.

Prophecies from very credible sources rarely give an exact date. Even Jesus said he didn’t know the date and time when he would return. This should be a lesson to everyone who comes across a prophecy with an exact date.

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[SaxonJackson]

True....
but is it possible that in our time line......
instead of ninety percent of our children and grandchildren
being killed in warfare... famine... plague......
they could instead be burned up by The Holy Spirit............

because Isaiah revealed that "all flesh is as grass"......
and John in the Book of Revelation was shown that a third of the grass and trees would be burned up..........

Could there be a positive way for all of the Book of Revelation.... and Isaiah... and Jeremiah.... and Ezekiel.. AND Matthew chapter twenty four....... to be worked out??????

Could the Holy Spirit fulfill hidden meaning in the Book of Revelation......
that could be shockingly POSITIVE??????

From my perspective, there will be an extremely positive outcome but the road that leads to that outcome will be terrifying and painful. The positive outcome is that Christ and His angels will case the tares into the lake of fire where there will be "wailing and gnashing of teeth." God's children (the wheat) will remain. Read the parable of the wheat and the tares:

Matthew 24:30, "Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn."

Christ explains the above parable here:

Matthew 13:38-42, "Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

The idea that we can live in a world where evildoers no longer exist gives me great hope and comfort.

 

[DennisPTate]

I appreciate you post with good and heartfelt intent .

However , I happen to believe that the Abrahamic religions are slap bang and wallop -- at the end of their allotted time .
Literally .

I only bother to post because I believe that devotees like yourself need to slowly be made aware of the imminent, imho , collapse of your belief system in order to help minimise the terrible shock you will suffer when it becomes universally clear that you have been scammed into a dishonest Cult .

As I am sure you know , I believe considerable disclosure re Aliens is due very soon and people may have to grapple with that huge fact plus our co-operation with many of them over the last 75-- 80 years .
The further submissions that there are alien bases on our planet already, and that separately we have off - planet bases will be almost beyond belief for most .
And totally rejected as an instinctive response to something seen as "life"( belief system ) threatening .

This scenario will of course be an unmitigated disaster for committed Cultists , and many will need help in terms of facts management and finding replacement life beliefs and practises .

BUT
I put all of that on one side -- as it were --- but go on to reference your specific belief in the Crucifixion and Resurrection of someone you believe to be the Son of God .

All of it is completely denied from the Dead Sea Scroll findings .
At its simplest , he was taken alive from the cross, though wine poisoned ---was helped to recover principally by Simon Magus wrongly remembered as Barabbas -- more correctly translated as Man of Power and Action rather than Thief .

That he later married ,had three children with the Magdalene and lived to around AD 60 is almost of secondary importance .
Enough said ---
Other than that 99.9% ?? of Christians are unaware of this History because it is heavily suppressed and deflected whenever required .

Comment please -- as they say .
And better than claiming conveniently--- but without justification --- that the Dead Sea Scrolls are untrue because "you" say so .

I have to admit that in a way.....
what is about to emerge is beyond Judaism....
beyond Christianity......
and even beyond the most accurate and Holy Spirit led
Christian church in all of the earth.

What is about to emerge is flawed.....
is made up of mere humans and all humans are flawed.....
but the way is being prepared right now for a massive spiritual awakening that
will shock all of us......

I do believe that a Billion Souls are about to be added to
"The Marriage Supper of the Lamb."

Some as part of the "Bride of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus" but many others as GUESTS at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb.

Is this Rick Joyner merely a "Christian Literary Genius" comparable to C. S. Lewis.....
or is he an ordinary mere man who had a genuine visionary dream from heaven back in 1995?

I believe that he had a genuine visionary dream from heaven.

[Rick Joyner, The Call]:

Chapter 10: The Army​

Suddenly, I was standing on a high mountain overlooking a great plain. Before me, there was an army marching on a wide front. There were 12 divisions in the vanguard that stood out sharply from the great multitude of soldiers who followed behind them. These divisions were further divided into what I assumed to be regiments, battalions, companies and squads. The divisions were distinguished by their banners, and the regiments were distinguished by their different colored uniforms.

Battalions, companies and squads were distinguished by such things as sashes or epaulets that each different group wore. All wore armor that was polished silver, shields that appeared to be pure gold, and weapons that were both silver and gold. The banners were huge, 30 to 40 feet long. As the soldiers marched, their armor and weapons flashed in the sun like lightening, and the flapping of the banners and the tread of their feet sounded like rolling thunder. I did not think that the earth had ever witnessed anything like this before.

Then I was close enough to see their faces—male and female, old and young from every race. There was a fierce resolution on their faces, yet they did not seem tense. War was in the air, but in the ranks I could sense such a profound peace that I knew that not a single one feared the battle to which they were marching. The spiritual atmosphere that I felt when close to them was as awesome as their appearance.

I looked at their uniforms. The colors were brilliant. Every soldier also wore rank insignias and medals. The generals and other higher ranking officers marched in the ranks with the others. Although it was obvious that those with higher rank were in charge, no one seemed overly sensitive to their rank. From the highest ranking officer to the lowest, they all seemed to be close friends. It was an army of what seemed to be unprecedented discipline, yet it also seemed to be just one big family.

As I studied them, they seemed selfless—not because they lacked identity, but because they were all so sure of who they were and what they were doing. They were not consumed with themselves or seeking recognition. I could not detect ambition or pride anywhere in the ranks. It was stunning to see so many who were so unique, yet in such harmony and marching in perfect step. I was sure that there had never been an army on earth like this.

Then I was behind the front divisions looking at a much larger group that was composed of hundreds of divisions. Each of these was a different size, with the smallest numbering about two thousand and the largest in the hundreds of thousands. Although this group was not as sharp and colorful as the first one, this also was an awesome army simply because of its size. This group also had banners, but they were not nearly as large and impressive as those of the first group’s. They all had uniforms and ranks, but I was surprised that many of these did not even have on a full set of armor, and many did not have weapons. The armor and weapons that they did have were not nearly as polished and bright as those of the first group.

As I looked more closely at those in these ranks, I could see that they were all determined and had purpose, but they did not have nearly the focus of the first group. These seemed much more aware of their own rank and the rank of those around them. I felt that this was a distraction hindering their focus. I could also sense ambition and jealousy in the ranks, which unquestionably was a further distraction. Even so, I felt that this second division still had a higher level of devotion and purpose than any army on earth. This, too, was a very powerful force. Behind this second army, there was a third one which marched so far behind the first two armies that I was not sure they could even see the groups ahead of them. This group was many times larger than the first and second armies combined, seemingly composed of millions and millions. As I watched from a distance, this army would move in different directions like a great flock of birds, sweeping first one way and then the next, never moving in a straight direction for very long. Because of this erratic movement, it was drifting farther and farther from the first two groups.

As I came closer, I saw that these soldiers had on tattered, dull gray uniforms which were neither pressed nor clean. Almost everyone was bloody and wounded. a few were attempting to march, but most just walked in the general direction in which the others were headed. Fights were constantly breaking out in the ranks causing many of the wounds. Some of the soldiers were trying to stay close to the frayed banners scattered throughout their ranks. Even so, not even those near the banners had a clear identity because they were constantly drifting from one banner to another.

In this third army, I was surprised that there were only two ranks—generals and privates. Only a few had a piece of armor on, and I did not see any weapons except dummy weapons which were carried by the generals. The generals flaunted these dummy weapons as if having them made the officers special, but even those in the ranks could tell that the weapons were not real. This was sad because it was obvious that those in the ranks desperately wanted to find someone who was real whom they could follow.

There did not seem to be any ambition except among the generals. This was not because of selflessness as in the first army, but because there was so little caring. I thought that at least the ambition present in the second group would be much better than the confusion that prevailed in this group. The generals here seemed to be more intent on talking about themselves and fighting with one another, which the little groups around the banners were constantly doing. I could then see that the battles within the ranks were the cause of the great sweeping, erratic changes of directions that this group would make from time to time.

As I looked at the millions in the last group, I felt that even with their great numbers, they did not actually add strength to the army, but rather weakened it. In a real battle, they would be much more of a liability than an asset. Just sustaining them with food and protection would cost more in resources than any value they could add to the army’s ability to fight. I thought that a private in the first or second group would be worth more than many generals from the third. I could not understand why the first groups even allowed this group to tag along behind them. They obviously were not true soldiers.

The Wisdom Of Zipporah​

I was suddenly on a mountain where I could see the entire army. As I watched, I noticed that the plain was dry and dusty before the army, but immediately after the first twelve divisions passed, the earth was dark green, with trees giving shade and bearing fruit and pure streams flowing throughout the land. This army was restoring the earth. I thought of how different this was from what would happen when one of the world’s armies would pass through a land. They would plunder and forage until the land was utterly stripped wherever they had marched.

I watched as the second divisions passed over the same ground. They left bridges and many buildings, but the ground was not left in as good of shape as before they had passed. The grass was not as green, the streams were somewhat muddied, and much of the fruit had been taken.

Then I saw what happened as the third group passed over the same ground. The grass was either gone or so trampled into the earth that it could not be seen. The few trees that remained were stripped. The streams were polluted. The bridges were broken down and impassable. The buildings were left in shambles. It seemed that this group had undone all of the good that the first two had done. As I watched them, anger welled up inside of me.

I felt Wisdom standing beside me. He did not say anything for a long time, but I could sense that He also was angry.

“Selfishness destroys,” He finally said. “I came to give life and to give it abundantly. Even when My army has matured, there will be many who call on My name and follow those who follow Me, but they do not know Me or walk in My ways. These destroy the fruit of those who follow Me. Because of this, the world does not know whether to consider My people a blessing or a curse.”

As Wisdom said this, I felt immense heat coming from Him, intensifying until it was so painful that it was hard for me to concentrate on what He was saying. Even so, I knew that I was feeling what He was feeling and that it was an important part of the message which He was conveying to me. The pain was a combination of compassion for the earth and anger at the selfishness in this army. Both feelings were so strong that I felt as though they were being branded into me.

As the anger of the Lord continued to rise, I felt that He might destroy the entire army. Then I remembered how the Lord had met Moses when he was on his way to Egypt in obedience to the Lord. The Lord sought to put him to death until his wife, Zipporah, circumcised their son. I had never understood this until now. Because circumcision speaks of the removal of the fleshly, or carnal nature, the incident with Moses was like a prophetic foreshadowing of the sin of Eli, the priest, who had brought a curse upon himself and defeat to Israel because he had failed to discipline his sons.

“Lord, raise up those with the wisdom of Zipporah!” I cried out.

The burning continued and a deep determination came over me to go to the leaders of this great army and tell them the story of Zipporah and that everyone in the Lord’s army had to be circumcised in their hearts. The carnal nature had to be cut away. I knew that if they marched any farther before this was done, the entire army was in danger of being destroyed by the Lord Himself, just as He had almost killed Moses when he was returning to Egypt.

Then I was standing in the Hall of Judgment before the Judgment Seat. The Lord still appeared as Wisdom, but I had never seen Him more fierce, nor His words come with more weight.

“You have already seen this army in your heart many times. The leaders I am commissioning now will lead this army. I am sending you to many of these leaders. What will you say to them?”

“Lord, this is a great army, but I am still grieved about the condition of the third group. I do not understand why they are even allowed to pretend to be a part of Your army. I would like to say that before they went any farther, the first and second armies should turn and drive away this third group. They were really very little more than a huge mob.”

“What you saw today is still in the future. The ministries I am about to release will gather this army and equip them to be all that you saw. At this time, almost My entire army is in the condition of the third group. How can I let them be driven away?”

I was stunned by this, although I knew that I had never seen any of the Lord’s people who were in as good shape as even the second group of this army.

“Lord, I know I felt Your anger at this group. If almost Your entire army is now in that condition, I am just thankful that You have not destroyed all of us. When I was looking at this third group, I felt that their deplorable condition was due to a lack of training, equipping and vision, as well as a failure to embrace the cross that circumcises the heart. I believe I must go to them with the message about Zipporah, but they also need drill sergeants and officers who will train them.”

Wisdom continued, “Remember the first army that you saw before the mountain. They, too, were unprepared for the battle, and when the battle began, those who were not prepared fled. However, many returned with their armor on and their delusions replaced with truth. The first two groups in this army were also changed by battles that woke them up to their true condition. Then they cried out to Me and I sent them shepherds after My own heart. “All of My shepherds are like King David. They are not hirelings who seek their own place or position, but they will lay down their lives for My people. They are also fearless in warfare against My enemies and pure in their worship of Me. I am about to send these shepherds forth. You must return with the message of Zipporah. The time is coming soon when I will not abide those who seek to be counted with My people who do not circumcise their hearts. You must warn them of My wrath.

“I am also sending you back to walk with the prophets I am sending forth as Samuels to pour oil upon My true shepherds. Many of these are now considered the least of their brethren, but you will find them serving as faithful shepherds of their little flocks, faithful laborers in whatever I have given them to do. These are My faithful ones who are called to be kings. These I will trust with My authority. They will prepare My people for the great battle at the end.”

I then wondered in my heart, If we are now in the condition of the third group, what was to be done with the generals who did not seem to be real generals at all?

“You are right, they are not real generals,” the Lord answered. “I did not appoint them, but they appointed themselves. Even so, some of them will be changed and I will make them generals. Others will become useful officers. However, most will flee at the first sight of battle, and you will not see them again.

“Remember this: At one time everyone in the first two groups was a part of the last one. When you go with the message of Zipporah declaring that I will no longer tolerate the carnality of My people, those whom I have truly called and are devoted to obeying Me will not run from My circumcision but will stand against the carnality in the camp so that I will not have to bring judgment upon them. My shepherds are responsible for the condition of My sheep. My generals are responsible for the condition of My soldiers. Those whom I have called will take this responsibility because they love Me, they love My people, and they love righteousness.”

10 The Army : The Call

This sequel to The Final Quest issues a prophetic challenge to seize your destiny. Rick Joyner explores the restoration of the earth and the ultimate purpose of the Christian life in the face of spiritual darkness.

ccl-china.org

It is easy to listen to "The Call" by Rick Joyner.....

 

[Parker21]

Naturally it is garbage to a Muncher like yourself who is unaware of the Dead Sea Scrolls or all of the early Gospels .

And of course it upsets your ingrained World View and your desperate need to preserve 100% Cognitive Rigidity .

BUT their names are well documented as you should know if you had even a glimmer of awareness of the subject .
But you are a Fraud , albeit unwitting .

All bibles( NT) today are done from 4th century translating. Filled with errors to mislead.

 

[DennisPTate]

All bibles( NT) today are done from 4th century translating. Filled with errors to mislead.

True but almost any translation is good enough to inspire us to come to a basic level of repentance so that we can at least begin to get to know our Creator and be guided by the Holy Spirit that was poured out at Pentecost in Acts chapter two.

I believe that modern near death experience accounts are explaining and clarifying the Jewish and Christian scriptures much as was predicted by Jeremiah that the plan of God would be understood perfectly in the latter days.


"The anger of the Lord will not turn back
Until He has executed and performed the thoughts of His heart.
In the latter days you will understand it perfectly." [Jeremiah 23:20]

Jeremiah 23 | NKJV Bible | YouVersion

The Branch of Righteousness“Woe #Is. 56:9–12; Jer. 10:21to the shepherds who destroy and scatter the sheep of My pasture!” says the Lord. Therefore thus says the Lord God of Israel a

www.bible.com

"

4. The Life Review of Howard Storm​

Next, they wanted to talk about my life. To my surprise my life played out before me, maybe six or eight feet in front of me, from beginning to end.

The life review was very much in their control, and they showed me my life, but not from my point of view. I saw me in my life and this whole thing was a lesson, even though I didn’t know it at the time. They were trying to teach me something, but I didn’t know it was a teaching experience, because I didn’t know that I would be coming back. We just watched my life from beginning to the end. Some things they slowed down on, and zoomed in on and other things they went right through.

My life was shown in a way that I had never thought of before. All of the things that I had worked to achieve, the recognition that I had worked for, in elementary school, in high school, in college, and in my career, they meant nothing in this setting.

I could feel their feelings of sorrow and suffering, or joy, as my life’s review unfolded. They didn’t say that something was bad or good, but I could feel it. And I could sense all those things they were indifferent to. They didn’t, for example, look down on my high school shot-put record. They just didn’t feel anything towards it, nor towards other things which I had taken so much pride in.

What they responded to was how I had interacted with other people. That was the long and short of it. Unfortunately, most of my interactions with other people didn’t measure up with how I should have interacted, which was in a loving way. Whenever I did react during my life in a loving way they rejoiced.

Most of the time I found that my interactions with other people had been manipulative. During my professional career, for example, I saw myself sitting in my office, playing the college professor, while a student came to me with a personal problem. I sat there looking compassionate, and patient, and loving, while inside I was bored to death. I would check my watch under my desk as I anxiously waited for the student to finish.

I got to go through all those kinds of experiences in the company of these magnificent beings.

When I was a teenager my father’s career put him into a high-stress, twelve-hour-a-day job. Out of my resentment because of his neglect of me, when he came home from work, I would be cold and indifferent toward him. This made him angry, and it gave me further excuse to feel hatred toward him. He and I fought, and my mother would get upset. Most of my life I had felt that my father was the villain and I was the victim. When we reviewed my life I got to see how I had precipitated so much of that, myself. Instead of greeting him happily at the end of a day, I was continually putting thorns in him in order to justify my hurt.

Howard Storm - Near-Death Experiences and the Afterlife

Near-Death Experiences and the Afterlife profiles Howard Storm . Did you enjoy reading this post, we have more!

near-death.com

 

[DennisPTate]

I appreciate you post with good and heartfelt intent .

However , I happen to believe that the Abrahamic religions are slap bang and wallop -- at the end of their allotted time .
Literally .

I only bother to post because I believe that devotees like yourself need to slowly be made aware of the imminent, imho , collapse of your belief system in order to help minimise the terrible shock you will suffer when it becomes universally clear that you have been scammed into a dishonest Cult .

As I am sure you know , I believe considerable disclosure re Aliens is due very soon and people may have to grapple with that huge fact plus our co-operation with many of them over the last 75-- 80 years .
The further submissions that there are alien bases on our planet already, and that separately we have off - planet bases will be almost beyond belief for most .
And totally rejected as an instinctive response to something seen as "life"( belief system ) threatening .

This scenario will of course be an unmitigated disaster for committed Cultists , and many will need help in terms of facts management and finding replacement life beliefs and practises .

BUT
I put all of that on one side -- as it were --- but go on to reference your specific belief in the Crucifixion and Resurrection of someone you believe to be the Son of God .

All of it is completely denied from the Dead Sea Scroll findings .
At its simplest , he was taken alive from the cross, though wine poisoned ---was helped to recover principally by Simon Magus wrongly remembered as Barabbas -- more correctly translated as Man of Power and Action rather than Thief .

That he later married ,had three children with the Magdalene and lived to around AD 60 is almost of secondary importance .
Enough said ---
Other than that 99.9% ?? of Christians are unaware of this History because it is heavily suppressed and deflected whenever required .

Comment please -- as they say .
And better than claiming conveniently--- but without justification --- that the Dead Sea Scrolls are untrue because "you" say so .

I have to admit that in a way.....
what is about to emerge is beyond Judaism....
beyond Christianity......
and even beyond the most accurate and Holy Spirit led
Christian church in all of the earth.

What is about to emerge is flawed.....
is made up of mere humans and all humans are flawed.....
but the way is being prepared right now for a massive spiritual awakening that
will shock all of us......

I do believe that a Billion Souls are about to be added to
"The Marriage Supper of the Lamb."

Some as part of the "Bride of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus" but many others as GUESTS at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb.

Is this Rick Joyner merely a "Christian Literary Genius" comparable to C. S. Lewis.....
or is he an ordinary mere man who had a genuine visionary dream from heaven back in 1995?

I believe that he had a genuine visionary dream from heaven.

[Rick Joyner, The Call]:

Chapter 10: The Army​

Suddenly, I was standing on a high mountain overlooking a great plain. Before me, there was an army marching on a wide front. There were 12 divisions in the vanguard that stood out sharply from the great multitude of soldiers who followed behind them. These divisions were further divided into what I assumed to be regiments, battalions, companies and squads. The divisions were distinguished by their banners, and the regiments were distinguished by their different colored uniforms.

Battalions, companies and squads were distinguished by such things as sashes or epaulets that each different group wore. All wore armor that was polished silver, shields that appeared to be pure gold, and weapons that were both silver and gold. The banners were huge, 30 to 40 feet long. As the soldiers marched, their armor and weapons flashed in the sun like lightening, and the flapping of the banners and the tread of their feet sounded like rolling thunder. I did not think that the earth had ever witnessed anything like this before.

Then I was close enough to see their faces—male and female, old and young from every race. There was a fierce resolution on their faces, yet they did not seem tense. War was in the air, but in the ranks I could sense such a profound peace that I knew that not a single one feared the battle to which they were marching. The spiritual atmosphere that I felt when close to them was as awesome as their appearance.

I looked at their uniforms. The colors were brilliant. Every soldier also wore rank insignias and medals. The generals and other higher ranking officers marched in the ranks with the others. Although it was obvious that those with higher rank were in charge, no one seemed overly sensitive to their rank. From the highest ranking officer to the lowest, they all seemed to be close friends. It was an army of what seemed to be unprecedented discipline, yet it also seemed to be just one big family.

As I studied them, they seemed selfless—not because they lacked identity, but because they were all so sure of who they were and what they were doing. They were not consumed with themselves or seeking recognition. I could not detect ambition or pride anywhere in the ranks. It was stunning to see so many who were so unique, yet in such harmony and marching in perfect step. I was sure that there had never been an army on earth like this.

Then I was behind the front divisions looking at a much larger group that was composed of hundreds of divisions. Each of these was a different size, with the smallest numbering about two thousand and the largest in the hundreds of thousands. Although this group was not as sharp and colorful as the first one, this also was an awesome army simply because of its size. This group also had banners, but they were not nearly as large and impressive as those of the first group’s. They all had uniforms and ranks, but I was surprised that many of these did not even have on a full set of armor, and many did not have weapons. The armor and weapons that they did have were not nearly as polished and bright as those of the first group.

As I looked more closely at those in these ranks, I could see that they were all determined and had purpose, but they did not have nearly the focus of the first group. These seemed much more aware of their own rank and the rank of those around them. I felt that this was a distraction hindering their focus. I could also sense ambition and jealousy in the ranks, which unquestionably was a further distraction. Even so, I felt that this second division still had a higher level of devotion and purpose than any army on earth. This, too, was a very powerful force. Behind this second army, there was a third one which marched so far behind the first two armies that I was not sure they could even see the groups ahead of them. This group was many times larger than the first and second armies combined, seemingly composed of millions and millions. As I watched from a distance, this army would move in different directions like a great flock of birds, sweeping first one way and then the next, never moving in a straight direction for very long. Because of this erratic movement, it was drifting farther and farther from the first two groups.

As I came closer, I saw that these soldiers had on tattered, dull gray uniforms which were neither pressed nor clean. Almost everyone was bloody and wounded. a few were attempting to march, but most just walked in the general direction in which the others were headed. Fights were constantly breaking out in the ranks causing many of the wounds. Some of the soldiers were trying to stay close to the frayed banners scattered throughout their ranks. Even so, not even those near the banners had a clear identity because they were constantly drifting from one banner to another.

In this third army, I was surprised that there were only two ranks—generals and privates. Only a few had a piece of armor on, and I did not see any weapons except dummy weapons which were carried by the generals. The generals flaunted these dummy weapons as if having them made the officers special, but even those in the ranks could tell that the weapons were not real. This was sad because it was obvious that those in the ranks desperately wanted to find someone who was real whom they could follow.

There did not seem to be any ambition except among the generals. This was not because of selflessness as in the first army, but because there was so little caring. I thought that at least the ambition present in the second group would be much better than the confusion that prevailed in this group. The generals here seemed to be more intent on talking about themselves and fighting with one another, which the little groups around the banners were constantly doing. I could then see that the battles within the ranks were the cause of the great sweeping, erratic changes of directions that this group would make from time to time.

As I looked at the millions in the last group, I felt that even with their great numbers, they did not actually add strength to the army, but rather weakened it. In a real battle, they would be much more of a liability than an asset. Just sustaining them with food and protection would cost more in resources than any value they could add to the army’s ability to fight. I thought that a private in the first or second group would be worth more than many generals from the third. I could not understand why the first groups even allowed this group to tag along behind them. They obviously were not true soldiers.

The Wisdom Of Zipporah​

I was suddenly on a mountain where I could see the entire army. As I watched, I noticed that the plain was dry and dusty before the army, but immediately after the first twelve divisions passed, the earth was dark green, with trees giving shade and bearing fruit and pure streams flowing throughout the land. This army was restoring the earth. I thought of how different this was from what would happen when one of the world’s armies would pass through a land. They would plunder and forage until the land was utterly stripped wherever they had marched.

I watched as the second divisions passed over the same ground. They left bridges and many buildings, but the ground was not left in as good of shape as before they had passed. The grass was not as green, the streams were somewhat muddied, and much of the fruit had been taken.

Then I saw what happened as the third group passed over the same ground. The grass was either gone or so trampled into the earth that it could not be seen. The few trees that remained were stripped. The streams were polluted. The bridges were broken down and impassable. The buildings were left in shambles. It seemed that this group had undone all of the good that the first two had done. As I watched them, anger welled up inside of me.

I felt Wisdom standing beside me. He did not say anything for a long time, but I could sense that He also was angry.

“Selfishness destroys,” He finally said. “I came to give life and to give it abundantly. Even when My army has matured, there will be many who call on My name and follow those who follow Me, but they do not know Me or walk in My ways. These destroy the fruit of those who follow Me. Because of this, the world does not know whether to consider My people a blessing or a curse.”

As Wisdom said this, I felt immense heat coming from Him, intensifying until it was so painful that it was hard for me to concentrate on what He was saying. Even so, I knew that I was feeling what He was feeling and that it was an important part of the message which He was conveying to me. The pain was a combination of compassion for the earth and anger at the selfishness in this army. Both feelings were so strong that I felt as though they were being branded into me.

As the anger of the Lord continued to rise, I felt that He might destroy the entire army. Then I remembered how the Lord had met Moses when he was on his way to Egypt in obedience to the Lord. The Lord sought to put him to death until his wife, Zipporah, circumcised their son. I had never understood this until now. Because circumcision speaks of the removal of the fleshly, or carnal nature, the incident with Moses was like a prophetic foreshadowing of the sin of Eli, the priest, who had brought a curse upon himself and defeat to Israel because he had failed to discipline his sons.

“Lord, raise up those with the wisdom of Zipporah!” I cried out.

The burning continued and a deep determination came over me to go to the leaders of this great army and tell them the story of Zipporah and that everyone in the Lord’s army had to be circumcised in their hearts. The carnal nature had to be cut away. I knew that if they marched any farther before this was done, the entire army was in danger of being destroyed by the Lord Himself, just as He had almost killed Moses when he was returning to Egypt.

Then I was standing in the Hall of Judgment before the Judgment Seat. The Lord still appeared as Wisdom, but I had never seen Him more fierce, nor His words come with more weight.

“You have already seen this army in your heart many times. The leaders I am commissioning now will lead this army. I am sending you to many of these leaders. What will you say to them?”

“Lord, this is a great army, but I am still grieved about the condition of the third group. I do not understand why they are even allowed to pretend to be a part of Your army. I would like to say that before they went any farther, the first and second armies should turn and drive away this third group. They were really very little more than a huge mob.”

“What you saw today is still in the future. The ministries I am about to release will gather this army and equip them to be all that you saw. At this time, almost My entire army is in the condition of the third group. How can I let them be driven away?”

I was stunned by this, although I knew that I had never seen any of the Lord’s people who were in as good shape as even the second group of this army.

“Lord, I know I felt Your anger at this group. If almost Your entire army is now in that condition, I am just thankful that You have not destroyed all of us. When I was looking at this third group, I felt that their deplorable condition was due to a lack of training, equipping and vision, as well as a failure to embrace the cross that circumcises the heart. I believe I must go to them with the message about Zipporah, but they also need drill sergeants and officers who will train them.”

Wisdom continued, “Remember the first army that you saw before the mountain. They, too, were unprepared for the battle, and when the battle began, those who were not prepared fled. However, many returned with their armor on and their delusions replaced with truth. The first two groups in this army were also changed by battles that woke them up to their true condition. Then they cried out to Me and I sent them shepherds after My own heart. “All of My shepherds are like King David. They are not hirelings who seek their own place or position, but they will lay down their lives for My people. They are also fearless in warfare against My enemies and pure in their worship of Me. I am about to send these shepherds forth. You must return with the message of Zipporah. The time is coming soon when I will not abide those who seek to be counted with My people who do not circumcise their hearts. You must warn them of My wrath.

“I am also sending you back to walk with the prophets I am sending forth as Samuels to pour oil upon My true shepherds. Many of these are now considered the least of their brethren, but you will find them serving as faithful shepherds of their little flocks, faithful laborers in whatever I have given them to do. These are My faithful ones who are called to be kings. These I will trust with My authority. They will prepare My people for the great battle at the end.”

I then wondered in my heart, If we are now in the condition of the third group, what was to be done with the generals who did not seem to be real generals at all?

“You are right, they are not real generals,” the Lord answered. “I did not appoint them, but they appointed themselves. Even so, some of them will be changed and I will make them generals. Others will become useful officers. However, most will flee at the first sight of battle, and you will not see them again.

“Remember this: At one time everyone in the first two groups was a part of the last one. When you go with the message of Zipporah declaring that I will no longer tolerate the carnality of My people, those whom I have truly called and are devoted to obeying Me will not run from My circumcision but will stand against the carnality in the camp so that I will not have to bring judgment upon them. My shepherds are responsible for the condition of My sheep. My generals are responsible for the condition of My soldiers. Those whom I have called will take this responsibility because they love Me, they love My people, and they love righteousness.”

10 The Army : The Call

This sequel to The Final Quest issues a prophetic challenge to seize your destiny. Rick Joyner explores the restoration of the earth and the ultimate purpose of the Christian life in the face of spiritual darkness.

ccl-china.org

 

[DennisPTate]

Naturally it is garbage to a Muncher like yourself who is unaware of the Dead Sea Scrolls or all of the early Gospels .

And of course it upsets your ingrained World View and your desperate need to preserve 100% Cognitive Rigidity .

BUT their names are well documented as you should know if you had even a glimmer of awareness of the subject .
But you are a Fraud , albeit unwitting .

Shalom Luiza.....

Today is the celebration of the birthday for Queen Victoria of England.....
Queen Victoria actually spent a lot of time on "Toronto Island" and one of the activities that she really liked was building huge brush fires. We all went to Toronto Island a few years ago and the tour guide, [or Museum Interpreter], who led us around told us some really neat details like that.

Well..... Luiza..... I believe that I am a bit of a "Messianic Jewish Psychic - or Christian Psychic" and I have an idea for a series of films.... where YOU.... star as yourself......
and you set something up......

I had better think this through some more because a part of this concept should be sent to you through personal messages on the forum.....
so that only you have a copy......
but a big part of this will be public domain.....
and anybody could think that this is a good offer....
and they could legally do something with this themselves because once an idea is on a public discussion forum..... it is considered public domain...... UNLESS the copy wright symbol is used for at least an important part of the idea......

Here is one part of the whole thing that will be public domain.....
I could DONATE my own rendition of the role of a latter day "Elijah" sort of person......
based on a rather unusual event that happened to me from Yom Kippur 1990 to three months after Yom Kippur 1991......

In a way this concept could go all the way to King Charles who is also the head of the Anglican Church here in Canada.... which is known as The Church of England where you life.

I believe that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus and the Holy Spirit have set up King Charles in such a way that a massive increase in Shalom between Christians, Muslims, Jews, Atheists, Skeptics, Hindus, Buddhists, Animists.... [and basically people of all religions can come together here in Ontario, Canada......
through two important concepts......

1. Human productive Capability is essentially without any limitation or cap or top but there is a catch. The catch is that monetary policy or central banking policy must be directed to MAXIMIZE our productive capability and Neo-Malthusian Thinkers in very high places are actually out to DEPOPULATE THE WORLD, in order to save the environment.

There is logic in what the Neo-Malthusians are thinking because WE HUMANS ARE SHOCKINGLY PRODUCTIVE.... and of course.... we are obviously capable of harming or even destroying the environment. The answer is NOT DEPOPULATION though as the Neo-Malthusians have been asserting....... the answer is for all of us to receive a Massive Spiritual Awakening.

So basically....YOU Luiza become like a film producer... and you are now free to talk to some of your contacts and friends....
because I do believe that you will find what I have in mind for you rather amusing.....

2. Here are two scriptures that indicate how astonishingly productive we humans are capable of being:

"But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built. 6And the Lord said, “Indeed the people are one and they all have one language, and this is what they begin to do; now nothing that they propose to do will be withheld from them. 7Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.” 8So the Lord scattered them abroad from there over the face of all the earth, and they ceased building the city. 9Therefore its name is called Babel, because there the Lord confused the language of all the earth; and from there the Lord scattered them abroad over the face of all the earth." [Genesis 11:6]
BUT the off the scale productive capability of we humans cannot be focused in an ethical manner unless there is a back up through wise and sincere Monetary Policy.
"money answereth all things" [Ecclesiastes]
... " Please try to imagine how motivated a high percentage of Latter day Saints or
residents of Utah could become if astonishing Nikola Tesla style technology hidden
UNDERGROUND in Utah were to be released.....
making it theoretically possible to go back in time to 1840.....
and GRAB THE PROPHET JOSEPH SMITH WHILE HE IS STILL ALIVE.....
and bring him to the USA in 2026 or 2027... or any year over the next decade?

This mission needs near death experiencer Cody Leatherbury as one of the crew people.....
This looks like a mission that MR. ELON MUSK might be very interested in????"
....
Died from Overdose & Saw HELL’s Three Sections! Cody’s Haunting Testimony as Blood Bought
Since PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP is the POTUS who grabbed Maduro and brought him to the USA.....
it is logical to have President Donald John Trump as The White Horse President who RESCUES PROPHET JOSEPH SMITH AND takes him out of 1840... and brings him to the modern USA.......

[FOR THE MOMENT A PROPHET JOSEPH SMITH STYLE LOOK ALIKE WHO HAS ALREADY PLAYED THAT ROLE FOR L.D.S. FILM PRODUCERS.... will suffice]!
....

in the year 2030

 

[DennisPTate]

I appreciate you post with good and heartfelt intent .

However , I happen to believe that the Abrahamic religions are slap bang and wallop -- at the end of their allotted time .
Literally .

I only bother to post because I believe that devotees like yourself need to slowly be made aware of the imminent, imho , collapse of your belief system in order to help minimise the terrible shock you will suffer when it becomes universally clear that you have been scammed into a dishonest Cult .

As I am sure you know , I believe considerable disclosure re Aliens is due very soon and people may have to grapple with that huge fact plus our co-operation with many of them over the last 75-- 80 years .
The further submissions that there are alien bases on our planet already, and that separately we have off - planet bases will be almost beyond belief for most .
And totally rejected as an instinctive response to something seen as "life"( belief system ) threatening .

This scenario will of course be an unmitigated disaster for committed Cultists , and many will need help in terms of facts management and finding replacement life beliefs and practises .

BUT
I put all of that on one side -- as it were --- but go on to reference your specific belief in the Crucifixion and Resurrection of someone you believe to be the Son of God .

All of it is completely denied from the Dead Sea Scroll findings .
At its simplest , he was taken alive from the cross, though wine poisoned ---was helped to recover principally by Simon Magus wrongly remembered as Barabbas -- more correctly translated as Man of Power and Action rather than Thief .

That he later married ,had three children with the Magdalene and lived to around AD 60 is almost of secondary importance .
Enough said ---
Other than that 99.9% ?? of Christians are unaware of this History because it is heavily suppressed and deflected whenever required .

Comment please -- as they say .
And better than claiming conveniently--- but without justification --- that the Dead Sea Scrolls are untrue because "you" say so .

Your statement is not entirely incorrect......
Judaism.....
Messianic Judaism....
Christianity......
Roman Catholicism.....
Charismatic Catholicism.....
The Church of England..... [The Anglican Church here in Canada and the Episcopalian church in the USA].....
are all going through a massive transformation as near death experience accounts get more and more and more and more people thinking.......

Oh yes..... the Teachings of Prophet Joseph Smith can now also be understood in an entirely new light......
in the light of the Cody Leatherbury near death experience account........

My guess is that Prophet Joseph Smith had something of a Matthew chapter four experience......
and somewhat like the Prophet Balaam of Book of Numbers fame.....
Prophet Joseph Smith did not get through his Matthew chapter four experience......
without making a single sin or error or "fly in the ointment" of his many writings?!

 

[Parker21]

True but almost any translation is good enough to inspire us to come to a basic level of repentance so that we can at least begin to get to know our Creator and be guided by the Holy Spirit that was poured out at Pentecost in Acts chapter two.

I believe that modern near death experience accounts are explaining and clarifying the Jewish and Christian scriptures much as was predicted by Jeremiah that the plan of God would be understood perfectly in the latter days.


"The anger of the Lord will not turn back
Until He has executed and performed the thoughts of His heart.
In the latter days you will understand it perfectly." [Jeremiah 23:20]

Jeremiah 23 | NKJV Bible | YouVersion

The Branch of Righteousness“Woe #Is. 56:9–12; Jer. 10:21to the shepherds who destroy and scatter the sheep of My pasture!” says the Lord. Therefore thus says the Lord God of Israel a

www.bible.com

"

That is a start, but one must live now in this satan ruled system doing Jesus' Fathers will over self to enter his kingdom( be saved) Matt 7:21)

 

[DennisPTate]

That is a start, but one must live now in this satan ruled system doing Jesus' Fathers will over self to enter his kingdom( be saved) Matt 7:21)

That is an excellent point......
would you personally disagree with the assertion by near death experiencer Howard Pittman that significantly less than ten percent of Americans, [ and people on earth at this time ], .....
can go directly into paradise or heaven at the time of death?

 

[Parker21]

That is an excellent point......
would you personally disagree with the assertion by near death experiencer Howard Pittman that less than ten percent of Americans, [ and people on earth at this time ], .....
can go directly into paradise or heaven at the time of death?

One goes to Hades( Sheol) = the grave at death to await the resurrection which occurs after the great tribulation and Gods day of anger. Few go in the first resurrection which occurs before those events.