Interesting Poll

[Alpha1]

Just 18% Believe Iran has Stopped Nuclear Weapons Development Program
Friday, December 07, 2007

http://tinyurl.com/33yz8k

 

[Annie]

Just 18% Believe Iran has Stopped Nuclear Weapons Development Program
Friday, December 07, 2007

http://tinyurl.com/33yz8k

Worthy! The American people, including moderate Democrats, which obviously are in the majority, are not taken with the NIE 'bombshell.' Sort of like Merkel and Sarkozy:

Friday, December 07, 2007

Just 18% of American voters believe that Iran has halted its nuclear weapons program. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 66% disagree and say Iran has not stopped its nuclear weapons program. Twenty-one percent (21%) of men believe Iran has stopped the weapons development along with 16% of women (see crosstabs).

The survey was conducted following release of a government report saying that Iran halted its nuclear weapons development program in 2003.

The Rasmussen Reports survey also found that 67% of American voters believe that Iran remains a threat to the national security of the United States. Only 19% disagree while 14% are not sure.

Fifty-nine percent (59%) believe that the United States should continue sanctions against Iran. Twenty percent (20%) disagree and 21% are not sure.

Forty-seven percent (47%) believe it is Very Likely that Iran will develop nuclear weapons in the future and another 34% believe Iran is Somewhat Likely to do so. That's 80% that believe Iran is somewhat likely or more to develop nuclear weapons.

Twenty-nine percent (29%) of liberal voters believe that Iran has stopped its weapons program but 54% disagree.

Among conservatives, just 8% believe Iran has stopped and 81% disagree.

Despite the Iranian government's protestations to the contrary, an earlier survey found that 67% believed that Iran’s nuclear program is intended to develop nuclear weapons rather than nuclear energy.

Another survey found that, most voters doubt the United States can count on its European allies when dealing with Iran. Just 1% of Americans view Iran as an ally of the United States. Sixty-two percent (62%) believe that Iran sponsors terrorist activities against the United States.

Only 6% disagree and 32% are not sure.

 

[jillian]

The problem is that Bush has no credibility, but most people don't think Ahmadinejhad is trustworthy either.

So there ya go.

Me? It's less what the NIE study said and more the way Bush/Cheny lied AFTER knowing the truth that pisses me off.

 

[Annie]

The problem is that Bush has no credibility, but most people don't think Ahmadinejhad is trustworthy either.

So there ya go.

Me? It's less what the NIE study said and more the way Bush/Cheny lied AFTER knowing the truth that pisses me off.

Yep, you've summed it up, Bush and Ahmadinejhad are the same regarding trustworthiness.

 

[jillian]

Yep, you've summed it up, Bush and Ahmadinejhad are the same regarding trustworthiness.

If people are untrustworthy, does it matter to what degree?

 

[Alpha1]

The problem is that Bush has no credibility, but most people don't think Ahmadinejhad is trustworthy either.

So there ya go.

Me? It's less what the NIE study said and more the way Bush/Cheny lied AFTER knowing the truth that pisses me off.

Damn...I missed those lies from Bush and Cheney....do you have a link?

 

[Annie]

If people are untrustworthy, does it matter to what degree?

Assuming your premise, doesn't it?

 

[jillian]

Assuming your premise, doesn't it?

Er... no. Both have proven themselves untrustworthy.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

To hear some, Bush just can't make it through the day without spilling out lie after lie.

 

[jillian]

hey, if you think it's okay for your president to lie to you to try to make you afraid of WWIII, s;okay with me.

or do you want him to get into another war? spend what's left of our money, destroy our military except for the paramilitary troops that are being trained in this country? or maybe you want WWIII in the mid-east so you can be raptured up?

 

[Annie]

Er... no. Both have proven themselves untrustworthy.

Perhaps I put that poorly. Assuming your premise they both 'lie', you see them equally dangerous?

 

[jillian]

Perhaps I put that poorly. Assuming your premise they both 'lie', you see them equally dangerous?

yes

 

[Annie]

yes

Then I feel sorry for your inability to reason.

 

[jillian]

Then I feel sorry for your inability to reason.

please don't. I'd question more your ability not to feel duped by the ijit in the whitehouse.

but that's ok. you know I love ya kathianne... even when you're insulting.

 

[Alpha1]

http://tinyurl.com/2fdt9h

The Director of National Intelligence has today released the unclassified key judgments from the intelligence community's latest estimate of Iran's nuclear weapons efforts and its uranium enrichment program. The classified version of this National Intelligence Estimate was briefed to the President last Wednesday, November 28, and has been delivered to relevant congressional committees this morning.

On balance, the estimate is good news. On one hand, it confirms that we were right to be worried about Iran seeking to develop nuclear weapons. On the other hand, it tells us that we have made some progress in trying to ensure that that does not happen. But it also tells us that the risk of Iran acquiring a nuclear weapon remains a very serious problem.

Despite this progress, the intelligence community in May of 2005 assessed with high confidence that Iran currently was determined to develop nuclear weapons. The intelligence community maintained this assessment throughout this year, 2007. Indeed, Director of National Intelligence Negroponte told an open session of the House intelligence community on January 1, 2007, that, "our assessment is that Tehran is determined to develop nuclear weapons." DNI McConnell later told a Senate panel in open session on February 27 that, "We assess that Tehran seeks to develop nuclear weapons."

Q Steve, let me follow on this point. If we now estimate with high confidence that it was shut down as of 2003, that it was halted, in October of this year, in 2007, the President is speaking about the Iranian threat, in terms of World War III. Why wouldn't you conclude that this President is hyping the threat?

MR. HADLEY: Because he was describing the threat as the intelligence community itself had been describing the threat both publicly and in their briefings to him. The President, as I think if you look at the testimony that was given by Don Kerr and Mike Hayden today, they basically said that the intelligence community finally came to the judgments that they came to on this issue Tuesday of last week. The President was briefed on Wednesday. So this is challenging information. The intelligence community had to decide what they thought about it. They were sufficiently uncertain about it that they delayed the publication of the NIE until they could come to the bottom of it, reach their conclusions, present it to the President, as they did on Wednesday, and then at that point, obviously, we wanted to get it out quickly.

Question.... They describe the Iranian threat today differently than the President would have even a month ago.

MR. HADLEY: Because our intelligence community has told us effective today that their assessment is somewhat different than it was before. That's correct.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Er... no. Both have proven themselves untrustworthy.

Because you say so? Provide some actual evidence. Something other then " we all know it where I live" please.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

hey, if you think it's okay for your president to lie to you to try to make you afraid of WWIII, s;okay with me.

or do you want him to get into another war? spend what's left of our money, destroy our military except for the paramilitary troops that are being trained in this country? or maybe you want WWIII in the mid-east so you can be raptured up?

The only President in recent times that was PROVEN to be a liar was Clinton, care to try again?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

http://tinyurl.com/2fdt9h

The Director of National Intelligence has today released the unclassified key judgments from the intelligence community's latest estimate of Iran's nuclear weapons efforts and its uranium enrichment program. The classified version of this National Intelligence Estimate was briefed to the President last Wednesday, November 28, and has been delivered to relevant congressional committees this morning.

On balance, the estimate is good news. On one hand, it confirms that we were right to be worried about Iran seeking to develop nuclear weapons. On the other hand, it tells us that we have made some progress in trying to ensure that that does not happen. But it also tells us that the risk of Iran acquiring a nuclear weapon remains a very serious problem.

Despite this progress, the intelligence community in May of 2005 assessed with high confidence that Iran currently was determined to develop nuclear weapons. The intelligence community maintained this assessment throughout this year, 2007. Indeed, Director of National Intelligence Negroponte told an open session of the House intelligence community on January 1, 2007, that, "our assessment is that Tehran is determined to develop nuclear weapons." DNI McConnell later told a Senate panel in open session on February 27 that, "We assess that Tehran seeks to develop nuclear weapons."

Q Steve, let me follow on this point. If we now estimate with high confidence that it was shut down as of 2003, that it was halted, in October of this year, in 2007, the President is speaking about the Iranian threat, in terms of World War III. Why wouldn't you conclude that this President is hyping the threat?

MR. HADLEY: Because he was describing the threat as the intelligence community itself had been describing the threat both publicly and in their briefings to him. The President, as I think if you look at the testimony that was given by Don Kerr and Mike Hayden today, they basically said that the intelligence community finally came to the judgments that they came to on this issue Tuesday of last week. The President was briefed on Wednesday. So this is challenging information. The intelligence community had to decide what they thought about it. They were sufficiently uncertain about it that they delayed the publication of the NIE until they could come to the bottom of it, reach their conclusions, present it to the President, as they did on Wednesday, and then at that point, obviously, we wanted to get it out quickly.

Question.... They describe the Iranian threat today differently than the President would have even a month ago.

MR. HADLEY: Because our intelligence community has told us effective today that their assessment is somewhat different than it was before. That's correct.

Don't bother with actual facts, quotes and reality, the left is not interested in that. They won't even admit they were wrong in the way they characterized the report. this won't phase them in the least.

 

[jillian]

Don't bother with actual facts, quotes and reality, the left is not interested in that. They won't even admit they were wrong in the way they characterized the report. this won't phase them in the least.

Why would anyone believe the whitehouse.gov site about something the whitehouse lied about?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Why would anyone believe the whitehouse.gov site about something the whitehouse lied about?

Again provide proof, being a Lawyer such a concept can not possibly be foreign to you.