Zone1 If you don't believe in the real Jesus and His Church, you are a heretic

[ninja007]

Again, you ignore the Coptic and Orthodox churches, founded by the Apostles in the first century. Why do you ignore Asia and Africa in favor of Rome?

looks like fork missed a turn and got lost for almost 3 weeks... or maybe he/she is getting ready to debut their 5th incarnation...

 

[kjw47]

Do you remember how I showed you that version you read says Jesus is God?

If that is true about John 1:1 in the Greek lexicons, then please in your vast knowledge of facts explain to all of us how the same word at 2 Cor 4:4 to satan = god = God to the word at John 1:1 from Greek to English? All the while the true God at both spots is called a different Greek word-WHY?

 

[hadit]

If that is true about John 1:1 in the Greek lexicons, then please in your vast knowledge of facts explain to all of us how the same word at 2 Cor 4:4 to satan = god = God to the word at John 1:1 from Greek to English? All the while the true God at both spots is called a different Greek word-WHY?

Oh, I showed you a lot more than that.

 

[BreezeWood]

It just stands to reason that if you are not in THE Church Christ founded, you are going to be prone to believing and practicing ERROR.

that church has never been built nor necessarily attributed in the 1st century by jesus ...

certainly not found in the 4th century christian bible -

the 1st century events are the repudiation of servitude and denial they choose as their religion in the christian bible and the similarities of judaism and islam as why some see a time of great discourse who do not or have not mended their ways.

 

[forkintheroad7]

My grandmother, a true Catholic, was married to an atheist. What do you imagine is so hard about it?

well, I guess some people aren't serious about Jesus. Maybe they prefer the humans in their lives

 

[Meriweather]

well, I guess some people aren't serious about Jesus. Maybe they prefer the humans in their lives

I'll take your guess and raise you to I know you are wrong, and everyone in the family would tell you the same. Not debatable.

 

[ding]

well, I guess some people aren't serious about Jesus. Maybe they prefer the humans in their lives

Right about now, I'll take an atheist over you. You pay lip service to God. You only have a shallow conceptual belief. It's like politics for you.

 

[forkintheroad7]

I'll take your guess and raise you to I know you are wrong, and everyone in the family would tell you the same. Not debatable.

You are WRONG. I used the word Maybe but you are 1000% certain of someone else's motives. Only God knows those

You are dishonest

 

[Meriweather]

but you are 1000% certain

Absolutely. I know my grandmother and I know myself. I also know what all in my family have said about the faith we hold. I am not guessing. I know. But keep guessing wrong, if that is what sails your own boat.

 

[kjw47]

Oh, I showed you a lot more than that.

You showed error. The bible is proof of how Theos is translated when in the same paragraph with Theon-Theos= god. Theon= God

 

[onefour1]

The Apostle Paul gave us a clue as to how we can recognize the true church of Jesus Christ. He taught the following:

Ephesians 4:11-14
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

Unless you believe that we have all come to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ, then we should still have a church with Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors and Teachers. If a church lacks these offices of priesthood, then it is not the true church of Jesus Christ. At the very head of the church we should find Apostles and Prophets. As a sign of the true church of Jesus Christ we should see Apostles and Prophets within the church for the work of the ministry and for the perfecting of the saints and for the edifying of the body of Christ.

 

[hadit]

You showed error. The bible is proof of how Theos is translated when in the same paragraph with Theon-Theos= god. Theon= God

I showed it all from your translation. Any error is in your version of the Bible.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Absolutely. I know my grandmother and I know myself. I also know what all in my family have said about the faith we hold. I am not guessing. I know. But keep guessing wrong, if that is what sails your own boat.

You're dishonest. Only God knows a person's soul. You are arrogant (prideful) to think you know

 

[kjw47]

I showed it all from your translation. Any error is in your version of the Bible.

You are wrong sir. Its the house divided( hundreds of trinity religions) that will not stand. Its they who are in error. They fail this true mark 100%= 1Cor 1:10= Unity of thought( thats all of Gods 1 truth) no division) they cant even understand that simple bible milk-no division.

 

[Meriweather]

You're dishonest. Only God knows a person's soul. You are arrogant (prideful) to think you know

Why did you switch your first accusation? You said we weren't serious about Jesus. Since I did have witnesses that both my grandmother and I are very serious about Jesus, you suddenly switched over to knowing a soul. Think about it. You feel you are entitled to guess, but no one else is entitled to rebut with their own knowledge.

 

[hadit]

You are wrong sir. Its the house divided( hundreds of trinity religions) that will not stand. Its they who are in error. They fail this true mark 100%= 1Cor 1:10= Unity of thought( thats all of Gods 1 truth) no division) they cant even understand that simple bible milk-no division.

Then you paid no attention when we went through all this and I showed you. Show us, for example, where God allows anyone in His presence to receive praise, honor, and glory other than Himself.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Why did you switch your first accusation? You said we weren't serious about Jesus. Since I did have witnesses that both my grandmother and I are very serious about Jesus, you suddenly switched over to knowing a soul. Think about it. You feel you are entitled to guess, but no one else is entitled to rebut with their own knowledge.

I didn't say anyone was not serious about Jesus. As Reagan would say: There you go again.. (in this case: making stuff up).

All you know about any other person is what they do and say and that isn't telling you a thing about who they really are deep inside. You don't walk with any given person every step of their lives and see all the decisions they make, unless you are just WEIRD because no one does that. But even if you could do it, you do not know someone's heart. A lot of people claim to love Jesus but their actions show a totally different story.. including actions not always seen by another human being

 

[Meriweather]

I didn't say anyone was not serious about Jesus.

Post #105.

 

[hadit]

You are wrong sir. Its the house divided( hundreds of trinity religions) that will not stand. Its they who are in error. They fail this true mark 100%= 1Cor 1:10= Unity of thought( thats all of Gods 1 truth) no division) they cant even understand that simple bible milk-no division.

You are incorrect in claiming that Christ's church can only be found in one organization. His people are found everywhere.

 

[kjw47]

Then you paid no attention when we went through all this and I showed you. Show us, for example, where God allows anyone in His presence to receive praise, honor, and glory other than Himself.

2Pet 1:17