DOJ Prosecutors Seek 120 Days in Prison for Owen Shroyer for Speaking Out Against Stolen 2020 Election – A Speech Crime

[Godboy]

22 years is good enough for me to be seditious conspiracy.

What were these Dems charged with?

I assume they werent charged with anything at all. The DOJ tries very hard to not seek justice against democrats these days,.

 

[john doe 101]

I assume they werent charged with anything at all. The DOJ tries very hard to not seek justice against democrats these days,.

They were arrested. What were the charges?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Deliberate lying is not free speech.

 

[elektra]

Deliberate lying is not free speech.

yes it is, more so than any other kind of speech, it is only the outrageous that needs protection

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

No, deliberate lying is not free speech and can be punished.

 

[Lastamender]

Deliberate lying is not free speech.

The Hell it isn't.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

"... {c}ertain conditions under which lying is not protected by the First Amendment. For instance, defamation, which goes beyond just telling a lie about someone else, is not protected2. The legal definition of defamation is narrow and hard to meet. It must harm the subject’s reputation, be “material or substantial” (not minor), be a provable assertion of fact (not an opinion), identify the person bringing the lawsuit, be published (i.e., heard by someone other than the speaker and the subject of the statement), and cause actual economic damage2.

In the case of New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, the court held that even false statements about public officials or figures are protected, as long as the speaker doesn’t know that they are false or take reckless disregard for their truth or falsehood2.

So, while some falsehoods are protected under the First Amendment, others are not, depending on the context and potential harm they may cause12.

 

[Lastamender]

"... {c}ertain conditions under which lying is not protected by the First Amendment. For instance, defamation, which goes beyond just telling a lie about someone else, is not protected2. The legal definition of defamation is narrow and hard to meet. It must harm the subject’s reputation, be “material or substantial” (not minor), be a provable assertion of fact (not an opinion), identify the person bringing the lawsuit, be published (i.e., heard by someone other than the speaker and the subject of the statement), and cause actual economic damage2.

In the case of New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, the court held that even false statements about public officials or figures are protected, as long as the speaker doesn’t know that they are false or take reckless disregard for their truth or falsehood2.

So, while some falsehoods are protected under the First Amendment, others are not, depending on the context and potential harm they may cause12.

Then it is all opinion. You lose.

 

[AMart]

No, deliberate lying is not free speech and can be punished.

Lying is legal, everyone does it many times daily you lying retard. Off to jail low IQ boy.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Lying is legal, everyone does it many times daily you lying retard. Off to jail low IQ boy.

Read the above, stupid one.

 

[elektra]

No, deliberate lying is not free speech and can be punished.

you are as wrong as wrong gets

democrats now can claim lying is illegal, and lying can be prosecuted, and it is democrats who get to dictate what is a lie.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Conspiring in speech and written word has always been criminal and not protected speech.