Zone1 Did Jesus come to save the Jews?

[The Sage of Main Street]

It seems to me they were expecting someone like David.

They needed one, because Rome was quite a Goliath

 

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They needed one, because Rome was quite a Goliath

Life is unfair. We should all expect to make sacrifices.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Do you EVER get tired of being wrong?

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Bikini shots, please

 

[irosie91]

The "Kingdom of Judah" and the "kingdom of Israel" were created in the days of Rehoboam and Jeroboam. Prior to that the nation was unified and called "Israel". "Israel" was never called "Judea" or the "kingdom of Judah". God gave the name "Israel" to the ten northern tribes under Jeroboam because most of the tribes of Israel were there.

not exactly----according to local semitic custom---the jews at that time were called
according to the name of the founder of the community, to wit---ISRAEL ---the name
given to Jacob after Jacob CONTENDED WITH THE TOP ANGEL---GABRIEL which loosely
means something like GAWD'S KNIGHT (GVIR EL) --don't quote me--a linguist might
laugh. Israel loosely means----"contended with Gawd" Judah was the chosen hereditary
leader by Jacob so the kingdom became JUDEA---which is what the Romans called it. Then
they changed it to "Palestine"-----now you know.

who's kidding who - today's jews vote for the orange blob - caiaphas of u s politics ... the same as the 1st century and then blame rome for their sins - theirs is the well traveled road.

they rebelled against judaism in the 1st century, immoral commandments, hereditary idolatry religion of apartheid et al ... never mentioned truly by the 4th century christian bible as only a crime against jesus that the parishioners true intent.

NO---who's kidding WHOM you learned english grammar in jelly bean school?

 

[Woodznutz]

not exactly----according to local semitic custom---the jews at that time were called
according to the name of the founder of the community, to wit---ISRAEL ---the name
given to Jacob after Jacob CONTENDED WITH THE TOP ANGEL---GABRIEL which loosely
means something like GAWD'S KNIGHT (GVIR EL) --don't quote me--a linguist might
laugh. Israel loosely means----"contended with Gawd" Judah was the chosen hereditary
leader by Jacob so the kingdom became JUDEA---which is what the Romans called it. Then
they changed it to "Palestine"-----now you know.

The "House of David" only was/is hereditary leader, not the tribe of Judah. If the tribe of Judah were the hereditary leader the Jews would rule over the WASPs. Instead, there is only one hereditary King ruling (in a titular sense only) over the "House of Israel", King Charles III. And while he is a descendant of Judah, he is a Christian.

"The house of David will never want for a man to rule over the house of Israel."

There was no "house of Israel" until the split. Jeroboam was reckoned as an Ephraimite (patrilineal) even though his mother was David's sister. So, at the very moment there had to be a descendant of David ruling over Israelites, or the prophecy/promise would be broken. David's successor, Rehoboam, was left to rule over Judah, Benjamin, and the Levites. The other ten tribes, the "house of Israel", had no Davidic king over them.

Quite a dilemma.

 

[fncceo]

If the tribe of Judah were the hereditary leader the Jews would rule over the WASPs.

How do you know we don’t?

 

[Woodznutz]

How do you know we don’t?

Because if you did there would be no Christianity.

 

[BreezeWood]

Because if you did there would be no Christianity.

have you ever brought them to justice for their crime against the heavens as the repudiation of the commandments written in the christian bible - claimed by the liar moses.

for simple peace of mind ...

How do you know we don’t?

than religious tyranny.

 

[fncceo]

Because if you did there would be no Christianity.

That’s not true. Someone has to buy retail.

 

[irosie91]

The "House of David" only was/is hereditary leader, not the tribe of Judah. If the tribe of Judah were the hereditary leader the Jews would rule over the WASPs. Instead, there is only one hereditary King ruling (in a titular sense only) over the "House of Israel", King Charles III. And while he is a descendant of Judah, he is a Christian.

"The house of David will never want for a man to rule over the house of Israel."

There was no "house of Israel" until the split. Jeroboam was reckoned as an Ephraimite (patrilineal) even though his mother was David's sister. So, at the very moment there had to be a descendant of David ruling over Israelites, or the prophecy/promise would be broken. David's successor, Rehoboam, was left to rule over Judah, Benjamin, and the Levites. The other ten tribes, the "house of Israel", had no Davidic king over them.

Quite a dilemma.

wrong again----the people who left Egypt constituted the HOUSE OF JACOB aka ISRAEL.
Remember your all time fave gentile prophet and his talking ass? "How beautiful are your
tents O'JACOB." He addressed the whole settlement in the desert as "JACOB" because
Jacob was the founder-----that included all the tribes including Levi

 

[Woodznutz]

wrong again----the people who left Egypt constituted the HOUSE OF JACOB aka ISRAEL.
Remember your all time fave gentile prophet and his talking ass? "How beautiful are your
tents O'JACOB." He addressed the whole settlement in the desert as "JACOB" because
Jacob was the founder-----that included all the tribes including Levi

The name "Israel" and the "house of Israel" was given to the northern kingdom. The Jews got the "house of Judah" from that time forward.

 

[irosie91]

The name "Israel" and the "house of Israel" was given to the northern kingdom. The Jews got the "house of Judah" from that time forward.

yes---but the expression already existed in the Lexicon of Chaim ben Webster---it
"b'nei Yisrael" approximately "children of Israel"

 

[Woodznutz]

yes---but the expression already existed in the Lexicon of Chaim ben Webster---it
"b'nei Yisrael" approximately "children of Israel"

Jewish scholars don't acknowledge the so-called lost tribes. To them all Israelites are Jews. Why is no mystery. If the house of Israel can be lost forever the Jews can claim the birthright promise for themselves. In fact, many do by claiming that but for them the west wouldn't be as advanced.

 

[irosie91]

Jewish scholars don't acknowledge the so-called lost tribes. To them all Israelites are Jews. Why is no mystery. If the house of Israel can be lost forever the Jews can claim the birthright promise for themselves.

huh? can you rephrase that.......uhm......"goy garble"?

 

[Woodznutz]

huh? can you rephrase that.......uhm......"goy garble"?

Com'on, you should know this stuff.

"The scepter shall not depart from Judah, but the birthright is Joseph's." You guys want the birthright as well.

 

[irosie91]

Com'on, you should know this stuff.

"The scepter shall not depart from Judah, but the birthright is Joseph's." You guys want the birthright as well.

oh----santa claus sophistry

 

[Woodznutz]

Bikini shots, please

Jewish women do wear bikinis, but Jewish men aren't supposed to gawk at them (but if you're not Jewish it's ok, someone has to gawk at them. That's why they wear bikinis).

 

[Woodznutz]

oh----santa claus sophistry

Look it up in yer own Bible (it's right there on the coffee table).

 

[irosie91]

Look it up in yer own Bible (it's right there on the coffee table).

I lost my Gideon copy-----I haven't been in a hotel for a while---I don't trust.
King James. Can you give it to me in hebrew?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Life is unfair. We should all expect to make sacrifices.

Only sacrifice those who make life unfair