Zone1 Did Jesus come to save the Jews?

[Woodznutz]

Yes, next? Why ask questions such as this?

If you know this you are one of the very few that do. Most believe that the lost tribes are/were lost forever, absorbed into the Gentile world.

 

[Woodznutz]

Jesus was sent to save the whole world, not any part or parts.

True, but each group in their own order.

To the Jew first, however they rejected him and remain unsaved.

Then to the "lost sheep of the house of Israel" from whom he would "build his church". From them would come the Christian ministry to preach to the broader Gentile world.

 

[BreezeWood]

to the broader Gentile world.

jesus prevailed because they were a part of the greater 1st century events the repudiation of judaism as a selective religion hereditary idolatry they claimed by the heavens - as well their false commandments claimed by a single jew w/ blood on their hands. jesus would never have used the word gentile to describe anyone as a religious reference. jesus is never a jew.

 

[Woodznutz]

. jesus is never a jew.

What was he if not a Jew?

 

[konradv]

True, but each group in their own order.

To the Jew first, however they rejected him and remain unsaved.

Then to the "lost sheep of the house of Israel" from whom he would "build his church". From them would come the Christian ministry to preach to the broader Gentile world.

Bullshit, Jesus came to remove “orders”.

 

[Woodznutz]

Bullshit, Jesus came to remove “orders”.

Can you cite chapter and verse for that?

 

[BreezeWood]

Bullshit, Jesus came to remove “orders”.

Can you cite chapter and verse for that?

written by the crucifiers would be discreet at best ... does not exist.

jesus taught the original religion of antiquity, goal - the triumph of good vs evil - granted a&e for final judgement and admission to the everlasting when accomplished.

jesus is a religious itinerant and never pretended otherwise.

 

[Woodznutz]

jesus is a religious itinerant and never pretended otherwise.

Jesus owned a home in Capernaum, so he wasn't an "itinerant".

Adam and Eve haven't been judged yet, no one has.

 

[BreezeWood]

Jesus owned a home in Capernaum, so he wasn't an "itinerant".

Adam and Eve haven't been judged yet, no one has.

they would have had to triumph to be judged for admission to the heavens, as equals as is their request. - that did occur if they succeeded to free their spirits ...

what you are talking about if such exists is not for residence in the heavens.

- jesus is a religious itinerant their presence wherever they may be is their church.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Was it the Jews or the Romans that ultimately caused Jesus' death?

BOTH

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I learned this in Bible study. Can't unlearn it.

You have a lot right, but you do have error

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Jesus owned a home in Capernaum, so he wasn't an "itinerant".

We don't know that. We do know He stayed at the homes of others including Peter in Capernaum.

We also know,
"foxes have dens, and the birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head"

 

[BreezeWood]

Jesus owned a home in Capernaum, so he wasn't an "itinerant".

an itinerant by choice ...

this would prove though not true of a residence they may have possessed - they were truly a heavenly soap box the jews need not fear to mischaracterize, silence and have them put to death.

their followings were of the most simplest of the localities without political means and were only made famous by the 4th century christian bible that does more to crucify jesus than the jews.

 

[Woodznutz]

they would have had to triumph to be judged for admission to the heavens, as equals as is their request. - that did occur if they succeeded to free their spirits ...

what you are talking about if such exists is not for residence in the heavens.

- jesus is a religious itinerant their presence wherever they may be is their church.

Jesus now resides in heaven, with his Father.

 

[Woodznutz]

We don't know that. We do know He stayed at the homes of others including Peter in Capernaum.

We also know,
"foxes have dens, and the birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head"

Strong evidence for a home.

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The "foxes have dens" etc. comment simply means that Jesus had no place in this world. He certainly had a place to sleep each night.

 

[Woodznutz]

You have a lot right, but you do have error

Bible study is a work in progress.

 

[BreezeWood]

Bible study is a work in progress.

a work written in a language long since past without a word included by the main character by their own hand ... if not for the very reason of deliberate exclusion - per their crucifixion.

 

[Woodznutz]

a work written in a language long since past without a word included by the main character by their own hand ... if not for the very reason of deliberate exclusion - per their crucifixion.

Do you think the 4th century writers invented the Biblical evidence from the distant past that archeologists have been digging up for decades? How'd they do that?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

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Also Stalinist is their "cult of personality." The applicants ought to do motivational research on their prospective bosses.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Jesus was sent to save the whole world, not any part or parts.

Self-Declared Good Shepherds Using Scapegoats to Distract Their Herds

According tp the Covenant, the Jews were already saved, so it wasn't necessary to re-save them. Jesus was the apostle to the Gentiles.

Early on in Christian Europe, the Jews should have convinced or bribed some Christian theologian to interpret things that way. But the decadent and tyrannical secular ruling classes, which had quickly taken over Christianity, needed a scapegoat that had "rejected God's Will and murdered His Son."