Diane Black , a female GOP rich rep. wants to end the EMTLA

[Penelope]

LET THEM DIE!

The republican party is the party of satan.

wrong again fuckchop.

If you are actually dying or in actual 'need' of medical care, you will get it, and you won't have to sit, in pain, for hours, to get it.

They do triage in ER's so if you have to sit in pain for awhile, just be assured that are more sick people ahead of you. After all that is what ER's are for.

Indeed they do. But when you add in a large number of non-emergency patients it does cause problems, regardless of the triage. The staff is more distracted and certainly more exhausted. The chances of errors goes up. The time a Dr has to actually talk to the patient goes down. Lab tests are delayed ect ect.

I agree, and I agree ER should be used for emergencies. Doctors offices should be used, and that takes ins and or money.

then why take a stance against removing that law?

you just agreed it's a bad idea.

Because they are killing the ACA and Medicaid. In the OP I explained that. She is also wanting to defund PP where males go to as well. Back to the days of pre-existing conditions with rates so high the median income can't afford ins , long questionnaires for ins. unless you work for a large company, caps on ins.

 

[Penelope]

LET THEM DIE!

The republican party is the party of satan.

No. That is not what she is saying. She is saying that the ER is not the appropriate place to go for a cold.

Pneumonia is often misdiagnosed as being a cold or flu, especially in children and seniors. Failure to treat it is often fatal.

Pneumonia is a lung infiltrate. They have different symptoms. If a Dr. suspects infiltrate, he should do an xray.

Ya, but some folks would consider x-rays and perhaps accompanying blood test as wasteful "tests".

I have asthma, I've had it longer than I can remember and I have memories of being 2.

I had a really bad asthma attack, my inhaler wasn't working, so I went to the er, told them what I had and what I needed.
I turned down an x-ray, b/c I knew it was useless
turned down blood tests, b/c I knew it was useless
yelled at them to give me the breathing treatment, got it, felt better in moments.

In a situation like that they should of done a breathing treatment since you were having a bad asthma attack, without question.

 

[Camp]

Pneumonia is often misdiagnosed as being a cold or flu

Which is precisely the reason you don't go to a crowded, overworked, and understaffed ER to diagnose a cold. They will give you paracetamol and rush you out the door without a proper exam.

Emergency rooms are for emergencies ...

A person with undiagnosed Pneumonia is in great danger of death. Nowadays, a modern clinic will have x-ray availability on-premise or nearby. The same for bloodwork. Hence, one solution for this problem is to have the option of an emergency room or clinic at the same or nearby locations with admittance staffs at both that is triage qualified to decide which is appropriate.

 

[Two Thumbs]

wrong again fuckchop.

If you are actually dying or in actual 'need' of medical care, you will get it, and you won't have to sit, in pain, for hours, to get it.

They do triage in ER's so if you have to sit in pain for awhile, just be assured that are more sick people ahead of you. After all that is what ER's are for.

Indeed they do. But when you add in a large number of non-emergency patients it does cause problems, regardless of the triage. The staff is more distracted and certainly more exhausted. The chances of errors goes up. The time a Dr has to actually talk to the patient goes down. Lab tests are delayed ect ect.

I agree, and I agree ER should be used for emergencies. Doctors offices should be used, and that takes ins and or money.

then why take a stance against removing that law?

you just agreed it's a bad idea.

Because they are killing the ACA and Medicaid. In the OP I explained that. She is also wanting to defund PP where males go to as well. Back to the days of pre-existing conditions with rates so high the median income can't afford ins , long questionnaires for ins. unless you work for a large company, caps on ins.

Do you know that premiums went up b/c of the aca?
and that they were unconstitutionally made to look not as high b/c our tax dollars went directly to ins companies?


you do know this, right?

 

[Two Thumbs]

No. That is not what she is saying. She is saying that the ER is not the appropriate place to go for a cold.

Pneumonia is often misdiagnosed as being a cold or flu, especially in children and seniors. Failure to treat it is often fatal.

Pneumonia is a lung infiltrate. They have different symptoms. If a Dr. suspects infiltrate, he should do an xray.

Ya, but some folks would consider x-rays and perhaps accompanying blood test as wasteful "tests".

I have asthma, I've had it longer than I can remember and I have memories of being 2.

I had a really bad asthma attack, my inhaler wasn't working, so I went to the er, told them what I had and what I needed.
I turned down an x-ray, b/c I knew it was useless
turned down blood tests, b/c I knew it was useless
yelled at them to give me the breathing treatment, got it, felt better in moments.

In a situation like that they should of done a breathing treatment since you were having a bad asthma attack, without question.

Thank you.

But they wanted to do all those tests first.

 

[Camp]

Most people learn quickly that there is a huge difference in cost between a walk in clinic and emergency room. There are three walk-in clinics within a few miles of my local hospital. The difference is large enough, no matter what kind of insurance you have that you will use the clinic as the first choice for many illnesses or injuries.

 

[fncceo]

Hence, one solution for this problem is to have the option of an emergency room or clinic at the same or nearby locations with admittance staffs at both that is triage qualified to decide which is appropriate.

I have never lived in a place that didn't have 7/24 clinics within a 30 minute drive. Certainly every city has something like that. ERs on the other hand are staffed with emergency workers, not clinical diagnosticians.

 

[Camp]

Pneumonia is often misdiagnosed as being a cold or flu, especially in children and seniors. Failure to treat it is often fatal.

Pneumonia is a lung infiltrate. They have different symptoms. If a Dr. suspects infiltrate, he should do an xray.

Ya, but some folks would consider x-rays and perhaps accompanying blood test as wasteful "tests".

I have asthma, I've had it longer than I can remember and I have memories of being 2.

I had a really bad asthma attack, my inhaler wasn't working, so I went to the er, told them what I had and what I needed.
I turned down an x-ray, b/c I knew it was useless
turned down blood tests, b/c I knew it was useless
yelled at them to give me the breathing treatment, got it, felt better in moments.

In a situation like that they should of done a breathing treatment since you were having a bad asthma attack, without question.

Thank you.

But they wanted to do all those tests first.

You needed a clinic instead of an ER.

 

[Camp]

Hence, one solution for this problem is to have the option of an emergency room or clinic at the same or nearby locations with admittance staffs at both that is triage qualified to decide which is appropriate.

I have never lived in a place that didn't have 7/24 clinics within a 30 minute drive. Certainly every city has something like that. ERs on the other hand are staffed with emergency workers, not clinical diagnosticians.

The clinics where I live are not open 24/7. They have however reduced the numbers of patients going to the ER big time.

 

[Penelope]

Pneumonia is a lung infiltrate. They have different symptoms. If a Dr. suspects infiltrate, he should do an xray.

Ya, but some folks would consider x-rays and perhaps accompanying blood test as wasteful "tests".

I have asthma, I've had it longer than I can remember and I have memories of being 2.

I had a really bad asthma attack, my inhaler wasn't working, so I went to the er, told them what I had and what I needed.
I turned down an x-ray, b/c I knew it was useless
turned down blood tests, b/c I knew it was useless
yelled at them to give me the breathing treatment, got it, felt better in moments.

In a situation like that they should of done a breathing treatment since you were having a bad asthma attack, without question.

Thank you.

But they wanted to do all those tests first.

You needed a clinic instead of an ER.

Most people learn quickly that there is a huge difference in cost between a walk in clinic and emergency room. There are three walk-in clinics within a few miles of my local hospital. The difference is large enough, no matter what kind of insurance you have that you will use the clinic as the first choice for many illnesses or injuries.

All of the walk in clinics here need ins or expect cash, check payment. Some do not accept Medicaid as well.

 

[Penelope]

Pneumonia is a lung infiltrate. They have different symptoms. If a Dr. suspects infiltrate, he should do an xray.

Ya, but some folks would consider x-rays and perhaps accompanying blood test as wasteful "tests".

I have asthma, I've had it longer than I can remember and I have memories of being 2.

I had a really bad asthma attack, my inhaler wasn't working, so I went to the er, told them what I had and what I needed.
I turned down an x-ray, b/c I knew it was useless
turned down blood tests, b/c I knew it was useless
yelled at them to give me the breathing treatment, got it, felt better in moments.

In a situation like that they should of done a breathing treatment since you were having a bad asthma attack, without question.

Thank you.

But they wanted to do all those tests first.

You needed a clinic instead of an ER.

He needed a spare inhaler. I'm sure he has one now. He may of got quicker service if he had walked into a clinic, an asthma attack can be life threatening.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

LET THEM DIE!

The republican party is the party of satan.

No. That is not what she is saying. She is saying that the ER is not the appropriate place to go for a cold.

Well you take away the ACA and expanded Medicaid, that is what she is saying. Let them die.

Let them die? I don't know about anyone else, but I have never said "let them die". In fact, I have only spoken out against the use of the ER for things that are certainly NOT emergencies. And if the ER is clogged with colds, earaches, or the flu (for otherwise healthy adults) it increases the chance a real emergency will not get the proper care. THAT is far more likely to kill someone.

I found out that if my son who was having an asthma attack would of come in on an ambulance(not amblance) he would be moved to the font of the line, but since he was driven in he had to wait just like the Anchor who showed up before him did..Just love how liberals are for illegal people who shouldn't be here, but not their own citizens who pay the taxes so fucks like Pene, could get their welfare. When everyone is equally poor and equally miserable, then the liberals have achieved FAIRNESS.

 

[Camp]

Ya, but some folks would consider x-rays and perhaps accompanying blood test as wasteful "tests".

I have asthma, I've had it longer than I can remember and I have memories of being 2.

I had a really bad asthma attack, my inhaler wasn't working, so I went to the er, told them what I had and what I needed.
I turned down an x-ray, b/c I knew it was useless
turned down blood tests, b/c I knew it was useless
yelled at them to give me the breathing treatment, got it, felt better in moments.

In a situation like that they should of done a breathing treatment since you were having a bad asthma attack, without question.

Thank you.

But they wanted to do all those tests first.

You needed a clinic instead of an ER.

Most people learn quickly that there is a huge difference in cost between a walk in clinic and emergency room. There are three walk-in clinics within a few miles of my local hospital. The difference is large enough, no matter what kind of insurance you have that you will use the clinic as the first choice for many illnesses or injuries.

All of the walk in clinics here need ins or expect cash, check payment. Some do not accept Medicaid as well.

A weakness in the system. Everyone having insurance solves that weakness.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Ya, but some folks would consider x-rays and perhaps accompanying blood test as wasteful "tests".

I have asthma, I've had it longer than I can remember and I have memories of being 2.

I had a really bad asthma attack, my inhaler wasn't working, so I went to the er, told them what I had and what I needed.
I turned down an x-ray, b/c I knew it was useless
turned down blood tests, b/c I knew it was useless
yelled at them to give me the breathing treatment, got it, felt better in moments.

In a situation like that they should of done a breathing treatment since you were having a bad asthma attack, without question.

Thank you.

But they wanted to do all those tests first.

You needed a clinic instead of an ER.

Most people learn quickly that there is a huge difference in cost between a walk in clinic and emergency room. There are three walk-in clinics within a few miles of my local hospital. The difference is large enough, no matter what kind of insurance you have that you will use the clinic as the first choice for many illnesses or injuries.

All of the walk in clinics here need ins or expect cash, check payment. Some do not accept Medicaid as well.

yes
and medicare

 

[miketx]

another leftist that is against freedom.


ever been to an ER during the day?


It's full of people sitting around waiting to get aspirin for cold or a Band-Aid for a minor cut.

and it you have an actual, painful problem, you have to wait your turn.

Hey perhaps if they had insurance, it would not be that way. I agree er is for emergencies, CVAs, MI's, broken bones, and that is why I am pro the ACA and Expanded Medicaid.

now you have the nerve to bitch about ER's. Go to a doctor if you do not like er's.

So why don't they have insurance? Obama care is great. Why didn't they have it?

 

[Two Thumbs]

Pneumonia is a lung infiltrate. They have different symptoms. If a Dr. suspects infiltrate, he should do an xray.

Ya, but some folks would consider x-rays and perhaps accompanying blood test as wasteful "tests".

I have asthma, I've had it longer than I can remember and I have memories of being 2.

I had a really bad asthma attack, my inhaler wasn't working, so I went to the er, told them what I had and what I needed.
I turned down an x-ray, b/c I knew it was useless
turned down blood tests, b/c I knew it was useless
yelled at them to give me the breathing treatment, got it, felt better in moments.

In a situation like that they should of done a breathing treatment since you were having a bad asthma attack, without question.

Thank you.

But they wanted to do all those tests first.

You needed a clinic instead of an ER.

It was late at night and I was in a small city, I got directions to the only place open.

I had and have insurance and my condition at the time was life threatening, I was in so much danger that I sat for 30 seconds before they came and got me.

 

[Camp]

Ya, but some folks would consider x-rays and perhaps accompanying blood test as wasteful "tests".

I have asthma, I've had it longer than I can remember and I have memories of being 2.

I had a really bad asthma attack, my inhaler wasn't working, so I went to the er, told them what I had and what I needed.
I turned down an x-ray, b/c I knew it was useless
turned down blood tests, b/c I knew it was useless
yelled at them to give me the breathing treatment, got it, felt better in moments.

In a situation like that they should of done a breathing treatment since you were having a bad asthma attack, without question.

Thank you.

But they wanted to do all those tests first.

You needed a clinic instead of an ER.

He needed a spare inhaler. I'm sure he has one now. He may of got quicker service if he had walked into a clinic, an asthma attack can be life threatening.

Pretty sure the treatment and the inhaler are using the same basic medicine, albuterol, just different delivery systems.

 

[Two Thumbs]

I have asthma, I've had it longer than I can remember and I have memories of being 2.

I had a really bad asthma attack, my inhaler wasn't working, so I went to the er, told them what I had and what I needed.
I turned down an x-ray, b/c I knew it was useless
turned down blood tests, b/c I knew it was useless
yelled at them to give me the breathing treatment, got it, felt better in moments.

In a situation like that they should of done a breathing treatment since you were having a bad asthma attack, without question.

Thank you.

But they wanted to do all those tests first.

You needed a clinic instead of an ER.

He needed a spare inhaler. I'm sure he has one now. He may of got quicker service if he had walked into a clinic, an asthma attack can be life threatening.

Pretty sure the treatment and the inhaler are using the same basic medicine, albuterol, just different delivery systems.

clearly not or my inhaler would have worked.

 

[Camp]

Ya, but some folks would consider x-rays and perhaps accompanying blood test as wasteful "tests".

I have asthma, I've had it longer than I can remember and I have memories of being 2.

I had a really bad asthma attack, my inhaler wasn't working, so I went to the er, told them what I had and what I needed.
I turned down an x-ray, b/c I knew it was useless
turned down blood tests, b/c I knew it was useless
yelled at them to give me the breathing treatment, got it, felt better in moments.

In a situation like that they should of done a breathing treatment since you were having a bad asthma attack, without question.

Thank you.

But they wanted to do all those tests first.

You needed a clinic instead of an ER.

It was late at night and I was in a small city, I got directions to the only place open.

I had and have insurance and my condition at the time was life threatening, I was in so much danger that I sat for 30 seconds before they came and got me.

Yes, trouble breathing gets you a cot fast in the ER.

 

[danielpalos]

another leftist that is against freedom.


ever been to an ER during the day?


It's full of people sitting around waiting to get aspirin for cold or a Band-Aid for a minor cut.

and it you have an actual, painful problem, you have to wait your turn.

That is what affordable health care was supposed to alleviate.

Why is the right wing coming up with this type of solution, instead of ones that prevent the need for more expensive, emergency care for non-emergency issues.