Zone1 Debunking a Lie-Discrimination Against Asians in Higher Education

[IM2]

The right loves to claim that Asians are getting cheated out of college admissions for less qualified blacks and Hispanics. But you see there is a problem with that.

Under SAT-Only Admissions, Asian American Applicants to Selective Colleges Would Gain Fewer than 3,000 Seats Out of 120,000, Georgetown University Report Find
21% of Asian American students at the most selective colleges would not have been admitted
under a test-only admissions policy

Critics of affirmative action point to the stable enrollment share of Asian American students at the most selective colleges for the past two decades as evidence that these institutions maintain a predetermined racial balance of students. However, CEW researchers found that the enrollment share of Asian American and Pacific Islander students at Harvard and at the 90 other most selective colleges in the US has kept pace with their growing share of the four-year college-going population. In fact, the Asian American and Pacific Islander share of enrollments at the most selective colleges grew by 4 percentage points even while their enrollment share at all four-year colleges grew by just 2 percentage points between 1999 and 2018.

http://cew.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/GeorgetownCEW_SelectiveBias_PressRelease_7-15-21.pdf#:~:text=%28Washington%2C%20DC%2C%20July%2015%2C%202021%29%20A%20new%20report

 

[MarathonMike]

This has to be the tenth time you have posted this anti-Asian nonsense. Asians are always top performers in academics and Blacks are always among the lowest performers. There are dozens of studies that prove that.

 

[White 6]

The right loves to claim that Asians are getting cheated out of college admissions for less qualified blacks and Hispanics. But you see there is a problem with that.

Under SAT-Only Admissions, Asian American Applicants to Selective Colleges Would Gain Fewer than 3,000 Seats Out of 120,000, Georgetown University Report Find
21% of Asian American students at the most selective colleges would not have been admitted
under a test-only admissions policy

Critics of affirmative action point to the stable enrollment share of Asian American students at the most selective colleges for the past two decades as evidence that these institutions maintain a predetermined racial balance of students. However, CEW researchers found that the enrollment share of Asian American and Pacific Islander students at Harvard and at the 90 other most selective colleges in the US has kept pace with their growing share of the four-year college-going population. In fact, the Asian American and Pacific Islander share of enrollments at the most selective colleges grew by 4 percentage points even while their enrollment share at all four-year colleges grew by just 2 percentage points between 1999 and 2018.

http://cew.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/GeorgetownCEW_SelectiveBias_PressRelease_7-15-21.pdf#:~:text=%28Washington%2C%20DC%2C%20July%2015%2C%202021%29%20A%20new%20report

Until you brought it up, I wasn't aware there was thought to be discrimination against Asian Americans in higher education. Of course, in Jackson, TN with only two private colleges/universities and a large state extended site of University of Memphis, we simply don't have a big Asian conclave down here.

 

[marvin martian]

Until you brought it up, I wasn't aware there was thought to be discrimination against Asian Americans in higher education. Of course, in Jackson, TN with only two private colleges/universities and a large state extended site of University of Memphis, we simply don't have a big Asian conclave down here.

Universities have been under a lot of pressure from racist hate groups like the DNC and the NAACP to curtail admissions of Asian students to top schools. These racist groups believe academic achievement needs to be disregarded when making admission decisions.

 

[IM2]

Until you brought it up, I wasn't aware there was thought to be discrimination against Asian Americans in higher education. Of course, in Jackson, TN with only two private colleges/universities and a large state extended site of University of Memphis, we simply don't have a big Asian conclave down here.

That has been the common argument by those who oppose Affirmative action. There is a case pending before the Supreme Court Students for Fair Admissions vs. Harvard that claims Asians are being discriminated against to allow unqualified blacks and Hispanics into Harvard.

 

[White 6]

That has been the common argument by those who oppose Affirmative action. There is a case pending before the Supreme Court Students for Fair Admissions vs. Harvard that claims Asians are being discriminated against to allow unqualified blacks and Hispanics into Harvard.

Decision by end or year?

 

[MarathonMike]

Universities have been under a lot of pressure from racist hate groups like the DNC and the NAACP to curtail admissions of Asian students to top schools. These racist groups believe academic achievement needs to be disregarded when making admission decisions.

DEI should stand for Discrimination Exclusion and Insanity. Black students woefully under perform every other group in every academic category, that is undeniable fact.

 

[IM2]

Decision by end or year?

I don't know.

 

[White 6]

I don't know.

Let us know, if you notice. All I have heard is how smart and applied they are in their education and had not heard the higher education discrimination issue discussed relating to them. I pretty well suspect TN has a relatively very small Asian American population.

 

[IM2]

So we see some who think this is fake news.

Selective Bias​

Asian Americans, Test Scores, and Holistic Admissions​

Summary

Selective Bias: Asian Americans, Test Scores, and Holistic Admissions evaluates the common arguments made by affirmative action critics and Students for Fair Admissions, which is suing Harvard University and has lawsuits pending against the University of North Carolina and the University of Texas at Austin over their admissions practices. The report finds no strong evidence of discrimination against Asian American applicants in admissions to highly selective colleges.

Critics claim that if colleges considered only academic merit, Asian American applicants would gain a greater number of seats. SFFA and other affirmative action critics often base their allegations on three factors.

• stagnant enrollment shares for Asian American students
• relatively low acceptance rates of Asian American applicants
• differences in SAT scores between Asian American and non–Asian American students at the most selective colleges.

We find all of these arguments to be unconvincing. Here’s why:

The Asian American Enrollment Share at the Most Selective Colleges Has Remained Stable Over the Past Decade​

The enrollment share of Asian American and Pacific Islander students at Harvard and at the 90 other most selective colleges has kept pace with their growing share of the four-year college-going population. In fact, the Asian American and Pacific Islander share of enrollments at the most selective colleges grew by 4 percentage points even while their enrollment share at all four-year colleges grew by just 2 percentage points between 1999 and 2018.

Among students who scored 1300 or above on the SAT, 65% of Asian American students applied to one of the most selective colleges in the country, compared to 50% of non–Asian American students. And among students who scored below 1300, 12% of Asian American students took a chance and applied to one of the most selective colleges, compared to only 5% of non–Asian American students. Since more Asian American students apply to selective colleges, they are more likely to be denied a seat, which is not evidence of bias.

Selective Bias: Asian Americans, Test Scores, and Holistic Admissions - CEW Georgetown

There’s no strong evidence of discrimination against Asian American applicants in admissions to highly selective colleges.

cew.georgetown.edu

 

[IM2]

Let us know, if you notice. All I have heard is how smart and applied they are in their education and had not heard the higher education discrimination issue discussed relating to them. I pretty well suspect TN has a relatively very small Asian American population.

Yes, the model minority myth is repeated often. I will let you know, although when the decision is made there will be a thousand threads about it here.

 

[MarathonMike]

The right loves to claim that Asians are getting cheated out of college admissions for less qualified blacks and Hispanics. But you see there is a problem with that.

Under SAT-Only Admissions, Asian American Applicants to Selective Colleges Would Gain Fewer than 3,000 Seats Out of 120,000, Georgetown University Report Find
21% of Asian American students at the most selective colleges would not have been admitted
under a test-only admissions policy

Critics of affirmative action point to the stable enrollment share of Asian American students at the most selective colleges for the past two decades as evidence that these institutions maintain a predetermined racial balance of students. However, CEW researchers found that the enrollment share of Asian American and Pacific Islander students at Harvard and at the 90 other most selective colleges in the US has kept pace with their growing share of the four-year college-going population. In fact, the Asian American and Pacific Islander share of enrollments at the most selective colleges grew by 4 percentage points even while their enrollment share at all four-year colleges grew by just 2 percentage points between 1999 and 2018.

http://cew.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/GeorgetownCEW_SelectiveBias_PressRelease_7-15-21.pdf#:~:text=%28Washington%2C%20DC%2C%20July%2015%2C%202021%29%20A%20new%20report

Another "study" by an ultra-Liberal Left wing institution does not constitute a "truth". Sorry, another fail.

 

[IM2]

Overall, in a test-only admissions system, Asian American college applicants would gain a total of fewer than 3,000 seats at the most selective colleges, compared to the nearly 14,500 seats they typically capture in an admissions year. The share of Asian American high school students in a class attending these colleges would increase from 12% to 14%.

In a test-only admissions system, 21% of Asian American students and 39% of non–Asian American students would lose their seats in the most selective colleges to students with higher test scores. While it is the case that Asian American students who would not make the cut in a test-only approach overall have higher test-scores, they are also nearly twice as likely as their non–Asian American counterparts to have the lowest scores in the selective college applicant pool.

Selective Bias: Asian Americans, Test Scores, and Holistic Admissions - CEW Georgetown

There’s no strong evidence of discrimination against Asian American applicants in admissions to highly selective colleges.

cew.georgetown.edu

So what is shown here is that Asians benefit from Affirmative Action, perhaps more than any group but white females.

 

[Unkotare]

Asian applicants have been severely discriminated against in college admissions for many, many ;years.

 

[MarathonMike]

It would be much more constructive to discuss ways to help Black kids be successful rather than create yet another divisive thread pitting one race against another. But that is not how the OP operates, as we have seen over the years.

 

[IM2]

These facts combined tell us that while a test-only admissions standard would affect fewer current Asian American students than non-Asian American students, Asian American students are more likely to be among those who received the largest “boost” from holistic admissions.

Selective Bias: Asian Americans, Test Scores, and Holistic Admissions - CEW Georgetown

There’s no strong evidence of discrimination against Asian American applicants in admissions to highly selective colleges.

cew.georgetown.edu

 

[IM2]

Why do some whites ignore their own 247 years of violence against people of color in America to try derailing threads with nonsense?

 

[MarathonMike]

Why do some whites ignore their own 247 years of violence against people of color in America to try derailing threads with nonsense?

Why do some Black people choose to ignore the crippling problems in their own community?

 

[Kruska]

The right loves to claim that Asians are getting cheated out of college admissions for less qualified blacks and Hispanics. But you see there is a problem with that.

Black Asian Americans loosing out to Black African Americans?

 

[IM2]

Must be Black Asians

Nope. You have been race pimped to believe a bunch of lies.