Convenient store stand-your-ground shooter charged

[Faun]

The man had no business shooting anyone. His life was not in danger.

Look, I applaud people who confront someone for taking a handicapped space. I have done it. But what happened after was horrific.

Every time, you confront someone for something like that, you are assuming they are civilized people, that will not become violent over a few words.


Or are you, as RW seems to think, are you actually looking for a fight? Cause you want to throw your weight around?

The guy who shoved him was backing up and turning away. That doesn't fit the description of reasonable fear for his life. That's why he was rightfully convicted and sentenced.

 

[there4eyeM]

One of the major reasons not to always have a firearm is the fact that everywhere you go there is a firearm, but no assurance that you will be the one who ends up using it.

Wrong. I always carry because that way if some scumbag starts trouble I at least know I can get me, or my family away from him.

If deadly force is needed, I have it handy.

"...but no assurance that you will be the one who ends up using it."

 

[WinterBorn]

The man had no business shooting anyone. His life was not in danger.

Look, I applaud people who confront someone for taking a handicapped space. I have done it. But what happened after was horrific.

Every time, you confront someone for something like that, you are assuming they are civilized people, that will not become violent over a few words.


Or are you, as RW seems to think, are you actually looking for a fight? Cause you want to throw your weight around?

I don't look for a fight. But I do look to defend handicapped people from being unable to use the parking spots designated for them.

That said, when I carry I am very aware of what could happen. But this shooting was not about defending yourself. It was about a bruised ego causing the death of another human being.

 

[Correll]

If you are carrying, you do not go looking for trouble. I feel bad for this guy but he’s stupid and stupidity gets punished.

If you are carrying, you have a “Don’t fuk with me” attitude

Pretty much the exact opposite is true.

Evidently not

Otherwise, we wouldn’t have so many shootings

Your words make no sense. They bear no relation to reality.

I know math confuses you

Your inability to support your bizarre claim, is noted.

 

[Correll]

The man had no business shooting anyone. His life was not in danger.

Look, I applaud people who confront someone for taking a handicapped space. I have done it. But what happened after was horrific.

Every time, you confront someone for something like that, you are assuming they are civilized people, that will not become violent over a few words.


Or are you, as RW seems to think, are you actually looking for a fight? Cause you want to throw your weight around?

The guy who shoved him was backing up and turning away. That doesn't fit the description of reasonable fear for his life. That's why he was rightfully convicted and sentenced.

You call out someone for bad behavior, like parking in a handicapped space, you are operating on the assumption that they are civilized enough, that such a statement will not immediately escalate into violence.


Do you support the idea that, as a society, that people can complain to other people, without it immediately escalating to violence?

 

[Correll]

The man had no business shooting anyone. His life was not in danger.

Look, I applaud people who confront someone for taking a handicapped space. I have done it. But what happened after was horrific.

Every time, you confront someone for something like that, you are assuming they are civilized people, that will not become violent over a few words.


Or are you, as RW seems to think, are you actually looking for a fight? Cause you want to throw your weight around?

I don't look for a fight. But I do look to defend handicapped people from being unable to use the parking spots designated for them.

That said, when I carry I am very aware of what could happen. But this shooting was not about defending yourself. It was about a bruised ego causing the death of another human being.

1. So, why have you not corrected RW, in his confused thinking?

2. What do you think of someone, that would respond to your words, by knocking you down?

 

[Faun]

The man had no business shooting anyone. His life was not in danger.

Look, I applaud people who confront someone for taking a handicapped space. I have done it. But what happened after was horrific.

Every time, you confront someone for something like that, you are assuming they are civilized people, that will not become violent over a few words.


Or are you, as RW seems to think, are you actually looking for a fight? Cause you want to throw your weight around?

The guy who shoved him was backing up and turning away. That doesn't fit the description of reasonable fear for his life. That's why he was rightfully convicted and sentenced.

You call out someone for bad behavior, like parking in a handicapped space, you are operating on the assumption that they are civilized enough, that such a statement will not immediately escalate into violence.


Do you support the idea that, as a society, that people can complain to other people, without it immediately escalating to violence?

Drejka had no knowledge if Jacobs had legal authority or not to park there and he had no business confronting her over it. Anyone who does that risks a defensive boyfriend or husband coming to the defense of their woman. It's been that way for thousands of years. That said, at the same time, McGlockton had no legal right to touch Drejka. Drejka has every right at that point to draw his firearm. But when McGlockton began backing away, he lost his right to use it. They both made mistakes that day. One paid with his life and the other is paying with up to 20 years in prison.

 

[Correll]

The man had no business shooting anyone. His life was not in danger.

Look, I applaud people who confront someone for taking a handicapped space. I have done it. But what happened after was horrific.

Every time, you confront someone for something like that, you are assuming they are civilized people, that will not become violent over a few words.


Or are you, as RW seems to think, are you actually looking for a fight? Cause you want to throw your weight around?

The guy who shoved him was backing up and turning away. That doesn't fit the description of reasonable fear for his life. That's why he was rightfully convicted and sentenced.

You call out someone for bad behavior, like parking in a handicapped space, you are operating on the assumption that they are civilized enough, that such a statement will not immediately escalate into violence.


Do you support the idea that, as a society, that people can complain to other people, without it immediately escalating to violence?

Drejka had no knowledge if Jacobs had legal authority or not to park there and he had no business confronting her over it. Anyone who does that risks a defensive boyfriend or husband coming to the defense of their woman. It's been that way for thousands of years. That said, at the same time, McGlockton had no legal right to touch Drejka. Drejka has every right at that point to draw his firearm. But when McGlockton began backing away, he lost his right to use it. They both made mistakes that day. One paid with his life and the other is paying with up to 20 years in prison.

He had every right and "business" to confront her over it.

 

[WinterBorn]

The man had no business shooting anyone. His life was not in danger.

Look, I applaud people who confront someone for taking a handicapped space. I have done it. But what happened after was horrific.

Every time, you confront someone for something like that, you are assuming they are civilized people, that will not become violent over a few words.


Or are you, as RW seems to think, are you actually looking for a fight? Cause you want to throw your weight around?

I don't look for a fight. But I do look to defend handicapped people from being unable to use the parking spots designated for them.

That said, when I carry I am very aware of what could happen. But this shooting was not about defending yourself. It was about a bruised ego causing the death of another human being.

1. So, why have you not corrected RW, in his confused thinking?

2. What do you think of someone, that would respond to your words, by knocking you down?

I have been online long enough to know that some topics have people posting irrational shit and will never change their mind.

I think they are way out of line.

 

[Care4all]

A jury of his peers, unanimously found him guilty. They heard, saw, and reviewed ALL evidence presented by both the prosecutors and defense teams.

 

[westwall]

Pretty much the exact opposite is true.

Evidently not

Otherwise, we wouldn’t have so many shootings

No, the shootings are overwhelmingly gang on gang. Get rid of them and the US violence rate plummets.

Why do you like gang members so much?

He seems to think that our crime is driven by regular people, who go around being assholes, and then just escalate into violence.


I can't imagine what he is basing that on.

It's his progressive fantasy. He wants an outright gun ban so this country will be another socialist shit hole. He can't get to his end goal without disarmament first.

I, along with most Americans, support sensible gun control

No you don't. You want a gun ban so you can get your socialist hell hole. And your "most Americans" is a lie. When they are asked the questions without the clever biases that your poll takers add, the response is overwhelmingly against you.

The only way you can get the response you want, is to lie.

 

[westwall]

One of the major reasons not to always have a firearm is the fact that everywhere you go there is a firearm, but no assurance that you will be the one who ends up using it.

Wrong. I always carry because that way if some scumbag starts trouble I at least know I can get me, or my family away from him.

If deadly force is needed, I have it handy.

"...but no assurance that you will be the one who ends up using it."

If I am carrying it I most certainly will be the only one using it. Or, if I am taken out, my wife or daughter will be able to carry on.

 

[WillowTree]

So in conclusion handicapped designated parking places are there to be violated by people of color if they choose to do so and if you say anything you deserve to be shoved onto the pavement. If you defend yourself you deserve to be jailed for up to 20 years! Best you walk on the other side of the street.

 

[there4eyeM]

One of the major reasons not to always have a firearm is the fact that everywhere you go there is a firearm, but no assurance that you will be the one who ends up using it.

Wrong. I always carry because that way if some scumbag starts trouble I at least know I can get me, or my family away from him.

If deadly force is needed, I have it handy.

"...but no assurance that you will be the one who ends up using it."

If I am carrying it I most certainly will be the only one using it. Or, if I am taken out, my wife or daughter will be able to carry on.

Being omniscient, you wouldn't seem to need weapons.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

The white guy didn't see the black guy coming. or even if he did, he was not expecting to be blindsided.

Why was the black guy a coward and sucker punched / pushed the white guy instead of being a man and first verbally confronting him? Was he scared of the white guy?

To me, the black guy was just as big a coward for blindsiding the white guy. If the black guy had been brave, he would not have snuck up on the white guy like he did.

Anyone who uses a sucker punch or blind side technique is inherently a coward because they are afraid they will lose if the other person has a fair chance to defend themselves.

As far as the notion that he was convicted because he deserved it.....not necessarily. PLENTY of people are convicted by gun grabbing judges and juries these days. it's an epidemic. Has ZERO to do with justice. Sorry you were so confused.

 

[MacTheKnife]

1. I remember reading about this incident back when it happened.

2. The shooter was wrong to confront the scofflaw who parked in the disabled zone.

3. I have noticed that some older Caucasian gentlemen do confront young people of ethnicity X.

a. In my opinion, this is a sign of arrogance.

4. The safest thing to do when one sees a member of ethnicity X breaking a law is to get ignore it, leave the area immediately, and -- if one wishes -- notify the au

thorities.

That's life here in this "unique" nation.

But you're ok with the thug knocking him to the ground.

My point was that the older gentleman should never have confronted the younger gentleman in the first place.


Have a nice day!

Obviously you are stupid and are ignorant of the facts of the case.....the defendant did not confront the thug....who was inside the store when the defendant approached the vehicle and engaged in a conversation with the thugs g/f who was the real instiagator of the whole thing....she reacted to the defendent telling her they were parked in a handicapped spot...by her anger and shouting at the defendant someone going into the store told the thug someone was messing with his g/f which was not a accurate description of what was going on....unfortunately the thug stormed out of the store and never tried to figure out was going on...just rushed up and knocked the defendant to the ground....if had not been killed he would have been charged with assault which he had a history of.

 

[2aguy]

The man had no business shooting anyone. His life was not in danger.

Look, I applaud people who confront someone for taking a handicapped space. I have done it. But what happened after was horrific.

Every time, you confront someone for something like that, you are assuming they are civilized people, that will not become violent over a few words.


Or are you, as RW seems to think, are you actually looking for a fight? Cause you want to throw your weight around?

The guy who shoved him was backing up and turning away. That doesn't fit the description of reasonable fear for his life. That's why he was rightfully convicted and sentenced.

Yeah, it was nice that you could see that from the safety of your computer long after it happened.....the guy who was violently attacked was on the ground, in shock and had that guy looming over him.....he likely didn't realize the guy was pausing before attacking again.

 

[WinterBorn]

The man had no business shooting anyone. His life was not in danger.

Look, I applaud people who confront someone for taking a handicapped space. I have done it. But what happened after was horrific.

Every time, you confront someone for something like that, you are assuming they are civilized people, that will not become violent over a few words.


Or are you, as RW seems to think, are you actually looking for a fight? Cause you want to throw your weight around?

The guy who shoved him was backing up and turning away. That doesn't fit the description of reasonable fear for his life. That's why he was rightfully convicted and sentenced.

Yeah, it was nice that you could see that from the safety of your computer long after it happened.....the guy who was violently attacked was on the ground, in shock and had that guy looming over him.....he likely didn't realize the guy was pausing before attacking again.

Looming over him? He was backing up! No evidence at all that he was pausing before attacking again.

 

[MacTheKnife]

The white guy didn't see the black guy coming. or even if he did, he was not expecting to be blindsided.

Why was the black guy a coward and sucker punched / pushed the white guy instead of being a man and first verbally confronting him? Was he scared of the white guy?

To me, the black guy was just as big a coward for blindsiding the white guy. If the black guy had been brave, he would not have snuck up on the white guy like he did.

Anyone who uses a sucker punch or blind side technique is inherently a coward because they are afraid they will lose if the other person has a fair chance to defend themselves.

As far as the notion that he was convicted because he deserved it.....not necessarily. PLENTY of people are convicted by gun grabbing judges and juries these days. it's an epidemic. Has ZERO to do with justice. Sorry you were so confused.

I would not dispute any of that .....a terrible miscarriage of justice took place in this case and it was provoked by the jury being allowed to watch the video in slow motion which completely altered the perception of reality of the incident.

In reality the defendant had only a second or two to make a life or death decision. However the jury by watching the incident in slow motion did not understand that....because in the slow motion video it appears the defendant had lots of time to ponder the situation and lots of time to make his decision to discharge his weapon......the defendant did not even see the thug with a history of assault approach him....he was blindsided and violently knocked to the ground...the result of which put the defendant and reasonably so in a state of mind where he sincerely believed his life was in danger or that he might suffer serious bodily injury.

 

[Faun]

The man had no business shooting anyone. His life was not in danger.

Look, I applaud people who confront someone for taking a handicapped space. I have done it. But what happened after was horrific.

Every time, you confront someone for something like that, you are assuming they are civilized people, that will not become violent over a few words.


Or are you, as RW seems to think, are you actually looking for a fight? Cause you want to throw your weight around?

The guy who shoved him was backing up and turning away. That doesn't fit the description of reasonable fear for his life. That's why he was rightfully convicted and sentenced.

You call out someone for bad behavior, like parking in a handicapped space, you are operating on the assumption that they are civilized enough, that such a statement will not immediately escalate into violence.


Do you support the idea that, as a society, that people can complain to other people, without it immediately escalating to violence?

Drejka had no knowledge if Jacobs had legal authority or not to park there and he had no business confronting her over it. Anyone who does that risks a defensive boyfriend or husband coming to the defense of their woman. It's been that way for thousands of years. That said, at the same time, McGlockton had no legal right to touch Drejka. Drejka has every right at that point to draw his firearm. But when McGlockton began backing away, he lost his right to use it. They both made mistakes that day. One paid with his life and the other is paying with up to 20 years in prison.

He had every right and "business" to confront her over it.

He had no right or business. He's not a law enforcement officer. If he thought she was parked illegally, his option was to notify police through a non-emergency number.