Convenient store stand-your-ground shooter charged

[Faun]

Evidently not

Otherwise, we wouldn’t have so many shootings

No, the shootings are overwhelmingly gang on gang. Get rid of them and the US violence rate plummets.

Why do you like gang members so much?

He seems to think that our crime is driven by regular people, who go around being assholes, and then just escalate into violence.


I can't imagine what he is basing that on.

It's his progressive fantasy. He wants an outright gun ban so this country will be another socialist shit hole. He can't get to his end goal without disarmament first.

I, along with most Americans, support sensible gun control

Bo you don't. You want a gun ban so you can get your socialist hell hole. And your "most Americans" is a lie. When they are asked the questions without the clever biases that your poll takers add, the response is overwhelmingly against you.

The only way you can get the response you want, is to lie.

 

[2aguy]

The man had no business shooting anyone. His life was not in danger.

Look, I applaud people who confront someone for taking a handicapped space. I have done it. But what happened after was horrific.

Every time, you confront someone for something like that, you are assuming they are civilized people, that will not become violent over a few words.


Or are you, as RW seems to think, are you actually looking for a fight? Cause you want to throw your weight around?

The guy who shoved him was backing up and turning away. That doesn't fit the description of reasonable fear for his life. That's why he was rightfully convicted and sentenced.

Yeah, it was nice that you could see that from the safety of your computer long after it happened.....the guy who was violently attacked was on the ground, in shock and had that guy looming over him.....he likely didn't realize the guy was pausing before attacking again.

Looming over him? He was backing up! No evidence at all that he was pausing before attacking again.

You saw him because you have the luxury of sitting in your home in front of your computer......the guy he attacked was attacked so violently he was sent to the ground......he was in shock, out of sorts, and the guy was standing over him........being on the ground facing that guy isn't the same as watching it on a video camera 50 feet away and in your own home.

 

[Faun]

So in conclusion handicapped designated parking places are there to be violated by people of color if they choose to do so and if you say anything you deserve to be shoved onto the pavement. If you defend yourself you deserve to be jailed for up to 20 years! Best you walk on the other side of the street.

Race had nothing to do with it, you conservative racist piece of shit.

And Drejka wasn't defending himself as McGlockton was backing away when he saw Drejka draw a weapon.

 

[2aguy]

The white guy didn't see the black guy coming. or even if he did, he was not expecting to be blindsided.

Why was the black guy a coward and sucker punched / pushed the white guy instead of being a man and first verbally confronting him? Was he scared of the white guy?

To me, the black guy was just as big a coward for blindsiding the white guy. If the black guy had been brave, he would not have snuck up on the white guy like he did.

Anyone who uses a sucker punch or blind side technique is inherently a coward because they are afraid they will lose if the other person has a fair chance to defend themselves.

As far as the notion that he was convicted because he deserved it.....not necessarily. PLENTY of people are convicted by gun grabbing judges and juries these days. it's an epidemic. Has ZERO to do with justice. Sorry you were so confused.

I would not dispute any of that .....a terrible miscarriage of justice took place in this case and it was provoked by the jury being allowed to watch the video in slow motion which completely altered the perception of reality of the incident.

In reality the defendant had only a second or two to make a life or death decision. However the jury by watching the incident in slow motion did not understand that....because in the slow motion video it appears the defendant had lots of time to ponder the situation and lots of time to make his decision to discharge his weapon......the defendant did not even see the thug with a history of assault approach him....he was blindsided and violently knocked to the ground...the result of which put the defendant and reasonably so in a state of mind where he sincerely believed his life was in danger or that he might suffer serious bodily injury.

People don't understand this..... when you get attacked like that, with a hard, sudden impact on the ground, you get flooded with adrenaline which changes your perception......things slow down, your vision narrows, sound dampens.........much like just before a car crash...so you are not seeing things the same way people see them who are not violently attacked...

 

[MacTheKnife]

The man had no business shooting anyone. His life was not in danger.

Look, I applaud people who confront someone for taking a handicapped space. I have done it. But what happened after was horrific.

Every time, you confront someone for something like that, you are assuming they are civilized people, that will not become violent over a few words.


Or are you, as RW seems to think, are you actually looking for a fight? Cause you want to throw your weight around?

The guy who shoved him was backing up and turning away. That doesn't fit the description of reasonable fear for his life. That's why he was rightfully convicted and sentenced.

Yeah, it was nice that you could see that from the safety of your computer long after it happened.....the guy who was violently attacked was on the ground, in shock and had that guy looming over him.....he likely didn't realize the guy was pausing before attacking again.

Looming over him? He was backing up! No evidence at all that he was pausing before attacking again.

Expert testimony on body language revealed the thug was merely recoiling from the sight of the weapon....and not retreating at all..............yes he was looming over the defendant as in very close...just a few ft. away and within striking distance...thus he posed a serious threat to the defendant as in he did not turn around and run away. It was a good shoot.

The crucial thing in a case of self defense is the state of mind of the defendant. The jury disregarded that and focused on the slow motion video as the foreman of the jury revealed after the trial....that was the big mistake of the jury...aided and abetted by a very strong prosecutor who in his closing argument emphasized over and over ....just watch the video.

They should have been allowed to watch the video but not in slow motion as that altered their perception of what happened and how fast it all went down.

 

[WillowTree]

So in conclusion handicapped designated parking places are there to be violated by people of color if they choose to do so and if you say anything you deserve to be shoved onto the pavement. If you defend yourself you deserve to be jailed for up to 20 years! Best you walk on the other side of the street.

Race had nothing to do with it, you conservative racist piece of shit.

And Drejka wasn't defending himself as McGlockton was backing away when he saw Drejka draw a weapon.

Sure it did asshole!

 

[Faun]

The man had no business shooting anyone. His life was not in danger.

Look, I applaud people who confront someone for taking a handicapped space. I have done it. But what happened after was horrific.

Every time, you confront someone for something like that, you are assuming they are civilized people, that will not become violent over a few words.


Or are you, as RW seems to think, are you actually looking for a fight? Cause you want to throw your weight around?

The guy who shoved him was backing up and turning away. That doesn't fit the description of reasonable fear for his life. That's why he was rightfully convicted and sentenced.

Yeah, it was nice that you could see that from the safety of your computer long after it happened.....the guy who was violently attacked was on the ground, in shock and had that guy looming over him.....he likely didn't realize the guy was pausing before attacking again.

Liar, McGlockton wasn't pausing or preparing to attack again. He had taken several steps away from Drejka and was in the process of turning away when Drejka fired from about 12 feet away. Drejka tried using your pathetic excuse to justify resorting to lethal force but he couldn't convince a single member of a jury of his peers that McGlockton was preparing to lunge at him.

 

[Faun]

The man had no business shooting anyone. His life was not in danger.

Look, I applaud people who confront someone for taking a handicapped space. I have done it. But what happened after was horrific.

Every time, you confront someone for something like that, you are assuming they are civilized people, that will not become violent over a few words.


Or are you, as RW seems to think, are you actually looking for a fight? Cause you want to throw your weight around?

The guy who shoved him was backing up and turning away. That doesn't fit the description of reasonable fear for his life. That's why he was rightfully convicted and sentenced.

Yeah, it was nice that you could see that from the safety of your computer long after it happened.....the guy who was violently attacked was on the ground, in shock and had that guy looming over him.....he likely didn't realize the guy was pausing before attacking again.

Looming over him? He was backing up! No evidence at all that he was pausing before attacking again.

2aguy's a gun freak and can't help but side with the gun owner.

 

[2aguy]

The man had no business shooting anyone. His life was not in danger.

Look, I applaud people who confront someone for taking a handicapped space. I have done it. But what happened after was horrific.

Every time, you confront someone for something like that, you are assuming they are civilized people, that will not become violent over a few words.


Or are you, as RW seems to think, are you actually looking for a fight? Cause you want to throw your weight around?

The guy who shoved him was backing up and turning away. That doesn't fit the description of reasonable fear for his life. That's why he was rightfully convicted and sentenced.

Yeah, it was nice that you could see that from the safety of your computer long after it happened.....the guy who was violently attacked was on the ground, in shock and had that guy looming over him.....he likely didn't realize the guy was pausing before attacking again.

Liar, McGlockton wasn't pausing or preparing to attack again. He had taken several steps away from Drejka and was in the process of turning away when Drejka fired from about 12 feet away. Drejka tried using your pathetic excuse to justify resorting to lethal force but he couldn't convince a single member of a jury of his peers that McGlockton was preparing to lunge at him.

You are the liar..........you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[bodecea]

The white guy didn't see the black guy coming. or even if he did, he was not expecting to be blindsided.

Why was the black guy a coward and sucker punched / pushed the white guy instead of being a man and first verbally confronting him? Was he scared of the white guy?

To me, the black guy was just as big a coward for blindsiding the white guy. If the black guy had been brave, he would not have snuck up on the white guy like he did.

Anyone who uses a sucker punch or blind side technique is inherently a coward because they are afraid they will lose if the other person has a fair chance to defend themselves.

As far as the notion that he was convicted because he deserved it.....not necessarily. PLENTY of people are convicted by gun grabbing judges and juries these days. it's an epidemic. Has ZERO to do with justice. Sorry you were so confused.

I would not dispute any of that .....a terrible miscarriage of justice took place in this case and it was provoked by the jury being allowed to watch the video in slow motion which completely altered the perception of reality of the incident.

In reality the defendant had only a second or two to make a life or death decision. However the jury by watching the incident in slow motion did not understand that....because in the slow motion video it appears the defendant had lots of time to ponder the situation and lots of time to make his decision to discharge his weapon......the defendant did not even see the thug with a history of assault approach him....he was blindsided and violently knocked to the ground...the result of which put the defendant and reasonably so in a state of mind where he sincerely believed his life was in danger or that he might suffer serious bodily injury.

People don't understand this..... when you get attacked like that, with a hard, sudden impact on the ground, you get flooded with adrenaline which changes your perception......things slow down, your vision narrows, sound dampens.........much like just before a car crash...so you are not seeing things the same way people see them who are not violently attacked...

Well, apparently he was a person who didn't handle owning a gun well...20 years to think about it.

 

[2aguy]

The man had no business shooting anyone. His life was not in danger.

Look, I applaud people who confront someone for taking a handicapped space. I have done it. But what happened after was horrific.

Every time, you confront someone for something like that, you are assuming they are civilized people, that will not become violent over a few words.


Or are you, as RW seems to think, are you actually looking for a fight? Cause you want to throw your weight around?

The guy who shoved him was backing up and turning away. That doesn't fit the description of reasonable fear for his life. That's why he was rightfully convicted and sentenced.

Yeah, it was nice that you could see that from the safety of your computer long after it happened.....the guy who was violently attacked was on the ground, in shock and had that guy looming over him.....he likely didn't realize the guy was pausing before attacking again.

Looming over him? He was backing up! No evidence at all that he was pausing before attacking again.

2aguy's a gun freak and can't help but side with the gun owner.

No, moron, I have studied self defense for decades........the guy on the ground was suffering from an adrenaline dump from the shock of the violent attack...

Understanding stress - Part 8: Time Distortion - Situational Awareness Matters!™.

The phenomenon has been well documented in interviews with police officers, military personnel and martial arts experts. It’ is sometimes called Tachy Psyche effect.

Individuals impacted by tachypsychia have described it as having the appearance that time is elongated, giving the appearance that events are moving slower than reality. The opposite has also been described, where it appears time is speeding up, sometimes moving so fast that things appeared blurred.

In Part 1 of this series I talked about the massive dump of hormones triggered by stress. Research suggests that tachypsychia is a stress reaction induced by a combination of high levels of dopamine and norepinephrine. The chemicals impact the uptake and processing of information in the visual processing center.

 

[Faun]

The man had no business shooting anyone. His life was not in danger.

Look, I applaud people who confront someone for taking a handicapped space. I have done it. But what happened after was horrific.

Every time, you confront someone for something like that, you are assuming they are civilized people, that will not become violent over a few words.


Or are you, as RW seems to think, are you actually looking for a fight? Cause you want to throw your weight around?

The guy who shoved him was backing up and turning away. That doesn't fit the description of reasonable fear for his life. That's why he was rightfully convicted and sentenced.

Yeah, it was nice that you could see that from the safety of your computer long after it happened.....the guy who was violently attacked was on the ground, in shock and had that guy looming over him.....he likely didn't realize the guy was pausing before attacking again.

Looming over him? He was backing up! No evidence at all that he was pausing before attacking again.

Expert testimony on body language revealed the thug was merely recoiling from the sight of the weapon....and not retreating at all..............yes he was looming over the defendant as in very close...just a few ft. away and within striking distance...thus he posed a serious threat to the defendant as in he did not turn around and run away. It was a good shoot.

The crucial thing in a case of self defense is the state of mind of the defendant. The jury disregarded that and focused on the slow motion video as the foreman of the jury revealed after the trial....that was the big mistake of the jury...aided and abetted by a very strong prosecutor who in his closing argument emphasized over and over ....just watch the video.

They should have been allowed to watch the video but not in slow motion as that altered their perception of what happened and how fast it all went down.

He was 12 feet away and backing up and turning away when he was shot. That is not looking over Drejka.

 

[Faun]

So in conclusion handicapped designated parking places are there to be violated by people of color if they choose to do so and if you say anything you deserve to be shoved onto the pavement. If you defend yourself you deserve to be jailed for up to 20 years! Best you walk on the other side of the street.

Race had nothing to do with it, you conservative racist piece of shit.

And Drejka wasn't defending himself as McGlockton was backing away when he saw Drejka draw a weapon.

Sure it did asshole!

 

[Faun]

The man had no business shooting anyone. His life was not in danger.

Look, I applaud people who confront someone for taking a handicapped space. I have done it. But what happened after was horrific.

Every time, you confront someone for something like that, you are assuming they are civilized people, that will not become violent over a few words.


Or are you, as RW seems to think, are you actually looking for a fight? Cause you want to throw your weight around?

The guy who shoved him was backing up and turning away. That doesn't fit the description of reasonable fear for his life. That's why he was rightfully convicted and sentenced.

Yeah, it was nice that you could see that from the safety of your computer long after it happened.....the guy who was violently attacked was on the ground, in shock and had that guy looming over him.....he likely didn't realize the guy was pausing before attacking again.

Liar, McGlockton wasn't pausing or preparing to attack again. He had taken several steps away from Drejka and was in the process of turning away when Drejka fired from about 12 feet away. Drejka tried using your pathetic excuse to justify resorting to lethal force but he couldn't convince a single member of a jury of his peers that McGlockton was preparing to lunge at him.

You are the liar..........you have no idea what you are talking about.

LOLOL

That's why Drejka was convicted, ya flamin' moron.

 

[2aguy]

Every time, you confront someone for something like that, you are assuming they are civilized people, that will not become violent over a few words.


Or are you, as RW seems to think, are you actually looking for a fight? Cause you want to throw your weight around?

The guy who shoved him was backing up and turning away. That doesn't fit the description of reasonable fear for his life. That's why he was rightfully convicted and sentenced.

Yeah, it was nice that you could see that from the safety of your computer long after it happened.....the guy who was violently attacked was on the ground, in shock and had that guy looming over him.....he likely didn't realize the guy was pausing before attacking again.

Looming over him? He was backing up! No evidence at all that he was pausing before attacking again.

Expert testimony on body language revealed the thug was merely recoiling from the sight of the weapon....and not retreating at all..............yes he was looming over the defendant as in very close...just a few ft. away and within striking distance...thus he posed a serious threat to the defendant as in he did not turn around and run away. It was a good shoot.

The crucial thing in a case of self defense is the state of mind of the defendant. The jury disregarded that and focused on the slow motion video as the foreman of the jury revealed after the trial....that was the big mistake of the jury...aided and abetted by a very strong prosecutor who in his closing argument emphasized over and over ....just watch the video.

They should have been allowed to watch the video but not in slow motion as that altered their perception of what happened and how fast it all went down.

He was 12 feet away and backing up and turning away when he was shot. That is not looking over Drejka.

Yes....you were able to watch the video from the comfort of you chair, eating doritos and drinking Red Bull.....he was violently attacked and slammed into the ground.......changes your body chemistry and your ability to percieve sound, distance, and time........

 

[bodecea]

The guy who shoved him was backing up and turning away. That doesn't fit the description of reasonable fear for his life. That's why he was rightfully convicted and sentenced.

Yeah, it was nice that you could see that from the safety of your computer long after it happened.....the guy who was violently attacked was on the ground, in shock and had that guy looming over him.....he likely didn't realize the guy was pausing before attacking again.

Looming over him? He was backing up! No evidence at all that he was pausing before attacking again.

Expert testimony on body language revealed the thug was merely recoiling from the sight of the weapon....and not retreating at all..............yes he was looming over the defendant as in very close...just a few ft. away and within striking distance...thus he posed a serious threat to the defendant as in he did not turn around and run away. It was a good shoot.

The crucial thing in a case of self defense is the state of mind of the defendant. The jury disregarded that and focused on the slow motion video as the foreman of the jury revealed after the trial....that was the big mistake of the jury...aided and abetted by a very strong prosecutor who in his closing argument emphasized over and over ....just watch the video.

They should have been allowed to watch the video but not in slow motion as that altered their perception of what happened and how fast it all went down.

He was 12 feet away and backing up and turning away when he was shot. That is not looking over Drejka.

Yes....you were able to watch the video from the comfort of you chair, eating doritos and drinking Red Bull.....he was violently attacked and slammed into the ground.......changes your body chemistry and your ability to percieve sound, distance, and time........

He's got 20 years to think about his mistake.

 

[Faun]

Every time, you confront someone for something like that, you are assuming they are civilized people, that will not become violent over a few words.


Or are you, as RW seems to think, are you actually looking for a fight? Cause you want to throw your weight around?

The guy who shoved him was backing up and turning away. That doesn't fit the description of reasonable fear for his life. That's why he was rightfully convicted and sentenced.

Yeah, it was nice that you could see that from the safety of your computer long after it happened.....the guy who was violently attacked was on the ground, in shock and had that guy looming over him.....he likely didn't realize the guy was pausing before attacking again.

Looming over him? He was backing up! No evidence at all that he was pausing before attacking again.

2aguy's a gun freak and can't help but side with the gun owner.

No, moron, I have studied self defense for decades........the guy on the ground was suffering from an adrenaline dump from the shock of the violent attack...

Understanding stress - Part 8: Time Distortion - Situational Awareness Matters!™.

The phenomenon has been well documented in interviews with police officers, military personnel and martial arts experts. It’ is sometimes called Tachy Psyche effect.

Individuals impacted by tachypsychia have described it as having the appearance that time is elongated, giving the appearance that events are moving slower than reality. The opposite has also been described, where it appears time is speeding up, sometimes moving so fast that things appeared blurred.

In Part 1 of this series I talked about the massive dump of hormones triggered by stress. Research suggests that tachypsychia is a stress reaction induced by a combination of high levels of dopamine and norepinephrine. The chemicals impact the uptake and processing of information in the visual processing center.

That doesn't give anyone the right to shoot someone in self-defense who is retreating. At that point, it's no longer self-defense.

 

[Faun]

The guy who shoved him was backing up and turning away. That doesn't fit the description of reasonable fear for his life. That's why he was rightfully convicted and sentenced.

Yeah, it was nice that you could see that from the safety of your computer long after it happened.....the guy who was violently attacked was on the ground, in shock and had that guy looming over him.....he likely didn't realize the guy was pausing before attacking again.

Looming over him? He was backing up! No evidence at all that he was pausing before attacking again.

Expert testimony on body language revealed the thug was merely recoiling from the sight of the weapon....and not retreating at all..............yes he was looming over the defendant as in very close...just a few ft. away and within striking distance...thus he posed a serious threat to the defendant as in he did not turn around and run away. It was a good shoot.

The crucial thing in a case of self defense is the state of mind of the defendant. The jury disregarded that and focused on the slow motion video as the foreman of the jury revealed after the trial....that was the big mistake of the jury...aided and abetted by a very strong prosecutor who in his closing argument emphasized over and over ....just watch the video.

They should have been allowed to watch the video but not in slow motion as that altered their perception of what happened and how fast it all went down.

He was 12 feet away and backing up and turning away when he was shot. That is not looking over Drejka.

Yes....you were able to watch the video from the comfort of you chair, eating doritos and drinking Red Bull.....he was violently attacked and slammed into the ground.......changes your body chemistry and your ability to percieve sound, distance, and time........

Still not an excuse to shoot someone retreating.

 

[WillowTree]

So in conclusion handicapped designated parking places are there to be violated by people of color if they choose to do so and if you say anything you deserve to be shoved onto the pavement. If you defend yourself you deserve to be jailed for up to 20 years! Best you walk on the other side of the street.

Race had nothing to do with it, you conservative racist piece of shit.

And Drejka wasn't defending himself as McGlockton was backing away when he saw Drejka draw a weapon.

Sure it did asshole!

yes, we know you libtarded racist piece of shit.

 

[2aguy]

The guy who shoved him was backing up and turning away. That doesn't fit the description of reasonable fear for his life. That's why he was rightfully convicted and sentenced.

Yeah, it was nice that you could see that from the safety of your computer long after it happened.....the guy who was violently attacked was on the ground, in shock and had that guy looming over him.....he likely didn't realize the guy was pausing before attacking again.

Looming over him? He was backing up! No evidence at all that he was pausing before attacking again.

2aguy's a gun freak and can't help but side with the gun owner.

No, moron, I have studied self defense for decades........the guy on the ground was suffering from an adrenaline dump from the shock of the violent attack...

Understanding stress - Part 8: Time Distortion - Situational Awareness Matters!™.

The phenomenon has been well documented in interviews with police officers, military personnel and martial arts experts. It’ is sometimes called Tachy Psyche effect.

Individuals impacted by tachypsychia have described it as having the appearance that time is elongated, giving the appearance that events are moving slower than reality. The opposite has also been described, where it appears time is speeding up, sometimes moving so fast that things appeared blurred.

In Part 1 of this series I talked about the massive dump of hormones triggered by stress. Research suggests that tachypsychia is a stress reaction induced by a combination of high levels of dopamine and norepinephrine. The chemicals impact the uptake and processing of information in the visual processing center.

That doesn't give anyone the right to shoot someone in self-defense who is retreating. At that point, it's no longer self-defense.

Moron, he likely didn't know the guy was just standing there......again.....the adrenaline dump into his body from the shock of the violent attack and violent impact on the black top of the parking lot distorted his vision, his hearing and his ability to perceive time..........from a reasonable man perspective he should have been acquitted since the other asshole was the one who initiated the violent attack.