Based on what you see here, do you think the Raid helps or hurts Trump's political chances in 2024?

[Seymour Flops]

But Officer that other person was speeding too, that means you cannot give me a ticket....

It's not about the other guy did it too, nor "whataboutism."

It's about a stunningly hypocritical use of the armed power of government against the leader of the opposition party, something associated with banana republics and totalitarian states just prior to the banning of all opposition. Bringing up the kid glove treatment of Hillary is not "she did it too," it's irrefutable proof that the Raid on Mar-a-logo was not a legitimate exercise in law enforcement by an unbiased federal agency.

In case there is a single person in the country who could be deranged enough to believe that it was.

When a black person complains about disparities in sentencing between black defendants and white ones, is that "whataboutism," or "some other guy did it too!" Of course not.

Even that is a poor analogy, because we know that Hillary had hundreds of thousands of illegally stored classified documents on her server and that the DOJ and the FBI colluded to refuse to prosecute her so that she could be president. We've seen zero evidence at all of any such crime by Donald Trump, and the DOJ and FBI are colluding to publicly hounding him so that he cannot be president.

The tone-deaf part is their imagining that Hillary's server would not be the first thing that popped into people's heads when they heard that the FBI is justifying their raid by claiming classified documents were present. It is almost surreal that they believe that. I have to wonder if they are not deliberately provoking people who still believe in democracy to anger, hoping for another Jan 6.

 

[Grumblenuts]

The tone-deaf part is their imagining that Hillary's server would not be the first thing that popped into people's heads when they heard that the FBI is justifying their raid by claiming classified documents were present. It is almost surreal that they believe that.

Try Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, Daniel Ellsberg, Edward Snowden, Chelsea Manning, Julian Assange..
That you're so far behind the news is what's surreal. Classified documents was well established last year. Trump was never allowed to take any of that stuff home. His incredible stupidly serves as his only excuse. Yours?

§2202. Ownership of Presidential records​

The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.

(Added Pub. L. 95–591, §2(a), Nov. 4, 1978, 92 Stat. 2524.)
{..snip..}

(g)(1) Upon the conclusion of a President's term of office, or if a President serves consecutive terms upon the conclusion of the last term, the Archivist of the United States shall assume responsibility for the custody, control, and preservation of, and access to, the Presidential records of that President. The Archivist shall have an affirmative duty to make such records available to the public as rapidly and completely as possible consistent with the provisions of this chapter.

(2) The Archivist shall deposit all such Presidential records in a Presidential archival depository or another archival facility operated by the United States. The Archivist is authorized to designate, after consultation with the former President, a director at each depository or facility, who shall be responsible for the care and preservation of such records.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Try Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, Daniel Ellsberg, Edward Snowden, Chelsea Manning, Julian Assange..
That you're so far behind the news is what's surreal. Classified documents was well established last year. Trump was never allowed to take any of that stuff home. His incredible stupidly serves as his only excuse. Yours?

Yeah, other people have been gone after for giving away secrets deliberately. Clinton did not give away any secrets deliberately that I know of, but she kept them in her home. She got a pass, and now they go after Trump for the same thing.

I know you hope that people are incredibly stupid so they keep voting Democrat and you still get your freebies. Looks that gravy boat is about to sail away without you on it. Sorry . . .

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The FBI raid will help re elect Trump!

So yes, it helped him!

That's the most common assessment.

 

[talksalot]

Why?

If democrats can control the entire world's economies, they are bad asses.
The shipping ports, manufacturing, mining, drilling, forcing every single company to raise prices.
How could that even be possible?
Trump could never do that.

How is it possible? On Day One, Biden repealed all the free market strategies Trump and put into place, started printing money, kept the country on lockdown..... Why do I need to list it, we've all lived through it so you actually know how it was done.

Trump wasn't interested in CONTROLLING the world's economies. He enabled our economy and all free economies and suppressed trade with tyrants like China, Russia and Iran.

It's amazing how many people admire the corrupt, greedy, tyrannical Democrats and wish to be CONTROLLED by them.

 

[Smokin' OP]

How is it possible? On Day One, Biden repealed all the free market strategies Trump and put into place

When did this happen?
When did Biden implement price controls on corporations?
So, now, when the "free" markets (corporations) raise prices, it's the end of free markets?

started printing money,

Really?
Biden did that?

Feb. 24 2020: Stock market plummets as Dow Jones Industrials falls more than 1,000 points.

The same day, Trump asks for $1.25 billion in emergency aid. It grows to $8.3 billion in Congress.He tweets that the virus "is very much under control" and the stock market "starting to look very good to me!"

March 4 2020: House passes $8.3 billion emergency bill, aimed mainly at the immediate health response to the virus.

March 13 2020: Trump declares a national emergency to access $50 billion for states and territories, and clear the way for fast-track waivers for hospitals and doctors as they respond to the virus.

March 27 2020: Trump signs $2.2 trillion emergency spending bill. The act provides $1,200 per individual and $500 per child for households making up to $150,000 a year. Small businesses are eligible for loans — that can be forgiven — from a $377 billion fund. There’s a $454 billion fund for companies and state and local governments, and $180 billion for the health care sector.

Dec. 27 2020: Trump signs a $900 billion COVID-19 relief bill, after criticizing it because he said he wanted higher cash payments to taxpayers.

kept the country on lockdown

Really?
When did Biden put the US on "lockdown"?

March 17 2020: Trump said in a news conference that for the next 14 days, "we’re asking everyone to work at home, if possible, postpone unnecessary travel, and limit social gatherings to no more than 10 people."

March 29 2020: Trump reverses course on relaxing strict stay-at-home guidance by Easter and extends the period to the end of April.

..... Why do I need to list it, we've all lived through it so you actually know how it was done.

WOW.....................So Biden IS one of the best presidents ever.
No other president or world leader in American and world history has been able to control every country's economy's on earth.

Trump wasn't interested in CONTROLLING the world's economies. He enabled our economy and all free economies and suppressed trade with tyrants like China, Russia and Iran.

Really?
Biden did that?
Trump imposed tariffs on Chinese products, bailing out American farmer to the tune of $48 billion, that they never had to pay back, to the US taxpayer.

Then Trump signs a new trade deal INCREASING trade with China by $200 billion a year.

Bilateral trade reached $61.1 billion in the first half of 2019. The U.S. is the largest source of foreign direct investment into Russia, according to Russian ambassador to the U.S. Anatoly Antonov said.

The US has traded with Iran since the 1970's.

It's amazing how many people admire the corrupt, greedy, tyrannical Democrats and wish to be CONTROLLED by them.

It's amazing people gaslight for a tyrannical, corrupt traitor.

 

[talksalot]

When did this happen?
When did Biden implement price controls on corporations?
So, now, when the "free" markets (corporations) raise prices, it's the end of free markets?


Really?
Biden did that?

Feb. 24 2020: Stock market plummets as Dow Jones Industrials falls more than 1,000 points.

The same day, Trump asks for $1.25 billion in emergency aid. It grows to $8.3 billion in Congress.He tweets that the virus "is very much under control" and the stock market "starting to look very good to me!"

March 4 2020: House passes $8.3 billion emergency bill, aimed mainly at the immediate health response to the virus.

March 13 2020: Trump declares a national emergency to access $50 billion for states and territories, and clear the way for fast-track waivers for hospitals and doctors as they respond to the virus.

March 27 2020: Trump signs $2.2 trillion emergency spending bill. The act provides $1,200 per individual and $500 per child for households making up to $150,000 a year. Small businesses are eligible for loans — that can be forgiven — from a $377 billion fund. There’s a $454 billion fund for companies and state and local governments, and $180 billion for the health care sector.

Dec. 27 2020: Trump signs a $900 billion COVID-19 relief bill, after criticizing it because he said he wanted higher cash payments to taxpayers.

Really?
When did Biden put the US on "lockdown"?

March 17 2020: Trump said in a news conference that for the next 14 days, "we’re asking everyone to work at home, if possible, postpone unnecessary travel, and limit social gatherings to no more than 10 people."

March 29 2020: Trump reverses course on relaxing strict stay-at-home guidance by Easter and extends the period to the end of April.


WOW.....................So Biden IS one of the best presidents ever.
No other president or world leader in American and world history has been able to control every country's economy's on earth.



Really?
Biden did that?
Trump imposed tariffs on Chinese products, bailing out American farmer to the tune of $48 billion, that they never had to pay back, to the US taxpayer.

Then Trump signs a new trade deal INCREASING trade with China by $200 billion a year.

Bilateral trade reached $61.1 billion in the first half of 2019. The U.S. is the largest source of foreign direct investment into Russia, according to Russian ambassador to the U.S. Anatoly Antonov said.

The US has traded with Iran since the 1970's.

It's amazing people gaslight for a tyrannical, corrupt traitor.

When did this happen?
When did Biden implement price controls on corporations?
So, now, when the "free" markets (corporations) raise prices, it's the end of free markets?


Really?
Biden did that?

Feb. 24 2020: Stock market plummets as Dow Jones Industrials falls more than 1,000 points.

The same day, Trump asks for $1.25 billion in emergency aid. It grows to $8.3 billion in Congress.He tweets that the virus "is very much under control" and the stock market "starting to look very good to me!"

March 4 2020: House passes $8.3 billion emergency bill, aimed mainly at the immediate health response to the virus.

March 13 2020: Trump declares a national emergency to access $50 billion for states and territories, and clear the way for fast-track waivers for hospitals and doctors as they respond to the virus.

March 27 2020: Trump signs $2.2 trillion emergency spending bill. The act provides $1,200 per individual and $500 per child for households making up to $150,000 a year. Small businesses are eligible for loans — that can be forgiven — from a $377 billion fund. There’s a $454 billion fund for companies and state and local governments, and $180 billion for the health care sector.

Dec. 27 2020: Trump signs a $900 billion COVID-19 relief bill, after criticizing it because he said he wanted higher cash payments to taxpayers.

Really?
When did Biden put the US on "lockdown"?

March 17 2020: Trump said in a news conference that for the next 14 days, "we’re asking everyone to work at home, if possible, postpone unnecessary travel, and limit social gatherings to no more than 10 people."

March 29 2020: Trump reverses course on relaxing strict stay-at-home guidance by Easter and extends the period to the end of April.


WOW.....................So Biden IS one of the best presidents ever.
No other president or world leader in American and world history has been able to control every country's economy's on earth.



Really?
Biden did that?
Trump imposed tariffs on Chinese products, bailing out American farmer to the tune of $48 billion, that they never had to pay back, to the US taxpayer.

Then Trump signs a new trade deal INCREASING trade with China by $200 billion a year.

Bilateral trade reached $61.1 billion in the first half of 2019. The U.S. is the largest source of foreign direct investment into Russia, according to Russian ambassador to the U.S. Anatoly Antonov said.

The US has traded with Iran since the 1970's.

It's amazing people gaslight for a tyrannical, corrupt traitor.

Pandemic responses were guided by Dr. Fauci, the WHO, CDC, governors and Congress, not just Trump.

Over the Trump administration’s first three years, between 2016 and 2019, real median household income increased 9.2% while the economy lifted 6.6 million people out of poverty. That’s the largest 3-year poverty reduction for the start of any presidency since the initial drop in 1964 when the War on Poverty began.

Since 2016, the economy has lifted 1.2 million black Americans out of poverty, the largest reduction on record for the first 3 years of any presidency.

How about the Democrats’ bugaboo “income inequality”? Surely with Democrats’ claims that Trump’s economic policies benefit only the rich, it must have increased. Well, it didn’t.

With incomes growing, income inequality declined for the second consecutive year as the share of income held by the bottom 20 percent of earners increased by 2.4 percent.

These pre-pandemic numbers show the potential for all Americans of President Trump’s pro-growth policies, particularly in comparison to the stagnation of the Obama/Biden era’s big government policies.

Then Pandemic followed by a fraudulent election put the nation on track to the current disaster.
Biden reversed Trump’s policies, repealed the Trump tax cuts, increased regulation and grew the government in an expansion of the Obama era policies that produced the weakest economic recovery since WWII. Trump would have rebuilt the economy with the polices that produced the strongest labor market in modern times, including 2019’s historically positive numbers.

 

[Batcat]

Do you think that it makes it less likely that Trump will run in the primary?

Do you think it makes it less likely that Trump will win the primary if he does run?

Will Trump voters now see Trump as a criminal, since the FBI has so much prestige and reputation for fairness and professionalism?

Will Trump voters be galvanized by this raid, or will it prompt them to stay home on election day?

Will undecided voters think that this raid over-rides Biden's negatives?

Much will depend on what evidence the FBI found or planted.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Pandemic responses were guided by Dr. Fauci, the WHO, CDC, governors and Congress, not just Trump.

Over the Trump administration’s first three years, between 2016 and 2019, real median household income increased 9.2% while the economy lifted 6.6 million people out of poverty. That’s the largest 3-year poverty reduction for the start of any presidency since the initial drop in 1964 when the War on Poverty began.

Since 2016, the economy has lifted 1.2 million black Americans out of poverty, the largest reduction on record for the first 3 years of any presidency.

How about the Democrats’ bugaboo “income inequality”? Surely with Democrats’ claims that Trump’s economic policies benefit only the rich, it must have increased. Well, it didn’t.

With incomes growing, income inequality declined for the second consecutive year as the share of income held by the bottom 20 percent of earners increased by 2.4 percent.

These pre-pandemic numbers show the potential for all Americans of President Trump’s pro-growth policies, particularly in comparison to the stagnation of the Obama/Biden era’s big government policies.

Then Pandemic followed by a fraudulent election put the nation on track to the current disaster.
Biden reversed Trump’s policies, repealed the Trump tax cuts, increased regulation and grew the government in an expansion of the Obama era policies that produced the weakest economic recovery since WWII. Trump would have rebuilt the economy with the polices that produced the strongest labor market in modern times, including 2019’s historically positive numbers.

Pandemic responses were guided by Dr. Fauci, the WHO, CDC, governors and Congress, not just Trump.

Over the Trump administration’s first three years, between 2016 and 2019, real median household income increased 9.2% while the economy lifted 6.6 million people out of poverty. That’s the largest 3-year poverty reduction for the start of any presidency since the initial drop in 1964 when the War on Poverty began.

Since 2016, the economy has lifted 1.2 million black Americans out of poverty, the largest reduction on record for the first 3 years of any presidency.

How about the Democrats’ bugaboo “income inequality”? Surely with Democrats’ claims that Trump’s economic policies benefit only the rich, it must have increased. Well, it didn’t.

With incomes growing, income inequality declined for the second consecutive year as the share of income held by the bottom 20 percent of earners increased by 2.4 percent.

These pre-pandemic numbers show the potential for all Americans of President Trump’s pro-growth policies, particularly in comparison to the stagnation of the Obama/Biden era’s big government policies.

Then Pandemic followed by a fraudulent election put the nation on track to the current disaster.
Biden reversed Trump’s policies, repealed the Trump tax cuts, increased regulation and grew the government in an expansion of the Obama era policies that produced the weakest economic recovery since WWII. Trump would have rebuilt the economy with the polices that produced the strongest labor market in modern times, including 2019’s historically positive numbers.

May as well came right out of Trump's, big-mac eating hole.

Fox business?

Andy Puzder was chief executive officer of CKE Restaurants for more than 16 years, following a career as an attorney. He is currently a Senior Fellow at the Pepperdine University School of Public Policy. He was nominated by President Trump to serve as U.S. labor secretary. In 2018, Puzder authored "The Capitalist Comeback: The Trump Boom and the Left's Plot to Stop It" (Center Street).

LOL.