What exactly does the "Left" want?

[Soggy in NOLA]

Hey Moonbeam, what about World Peace?

As long as organized religion exists, there will never be world peace.

Ahhh.. there it is.

 

[topspin]

the right wants a level playing field for fundementalist christians and witches.
as long as you keep the darkies off

 

[RDD_1210]

Hey Moonbeam, what about World Peace?

As long as organized religion exists, there will never be world peace.

Truer words have never been spoken.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

Don't you fools realize that a stable, prosperous citizenry supports a stable, prosperous economy? WHY don't you get that??? We know you guys are ok with this country sliding into a third world oligarchy ruled by megacorporations, but we just don't understand why. Do you really think it is healthy for a nation's top 5% to control 95% of the wealth? That is where we are headed.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

Ahhh.. there it is.

Well, it's true.

 

[Oddball]

Don't you fools realize that a stable, prosperous citizenry supports a stable, prosperous economy? WHY don't you get that???

Huh??...If Big Daddy Big Gubmint's authoritarian meddling in economies actually worked, the USSR, Cuba, North Korea et al would've been the most prosperous nations of all time....But it doesn't so they weren't.

We know you guys are ok with this country sliding into a third world oligarchy ruled by megacorporations, but we just don't understand why.
Do you really think it is healthy for a nation's top 5% to control 95% of the wealth? That is where we are headed.

Strawman much?

 

[martybegan]

Don't you fools realize that a stable, prosperous citizenry supports a stable, prosperous economy? WHY don't you get that??? We know you guys are ok with this country sliding into a third world oligarchy ruled by megacorporations, but we just don't understand why. Do you really think it is healthy for a nation's top 5% to control 95% of the wealth? That is where we are headed.

So it is much better that all control is placed in the hands of a goverment, that if you go with a leftist model, controls production, ownership and the means of force?

At least with megacorporations they are fighting each other as much as they are fighting those who are against them.

 

[martybegan]

Hey Moonbeam, what about World Peace?

As long as organized religion exists, there will never be world peace.

You really believe that? People will find something to fight over regardless of what they believe in. Power is enough of an incentive for that.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

So it is much better that all control is placed in the hands of a goverment, that if you go with a leftist model, controls production, ownership and the means of force?

Better my peers (actual people) that I can elect in and out than a heartless, faceless corporation only about making money - and willing to do anything to anyone to do it. You guys have some twisted priorities.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

You really believe that?

Yes, I would put that in the FACT category.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

Strawman much?

Well, is it not true? Please refute anything that I have posted. I'll wait.

 

[Oddball]

Sweeping generalized strawmen aren't worth the time it takes.

Get a new schtick.

 

[Oddball]

So it is much better that all control is placed in the hands of a goverment, that if you go with a leftist model, controls production, ownership and the means of force?

Better my peers (actual people) that I can elect in and out than a heartless, faceless corporation only about making money - and willing to do anything to anyone to do it. You guys have some twisted priorities.

Funny how you socialists always (and I don't throw around universal qualifiers lightly) seem to believe that the avarice of politicians and bureaucrats is somehow less pernicious, just because you have a vote on who the crooks will be.

Rube.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

Sweeping generalized strawmen aren't worth the time it takes.

Yes, I know you can't refute it. Nice deflection.

 

[Oddball]

Sweeping generalized strawmen aren't worth the time it takes.

Yes, I know you can't refute it. Nice deflection.

I don't bother with bigoted, stereotyped strawmen....Period.

Deal with it.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

Funny how you socialists always seem to believe that the avarice of politicians and bureaucrats is somehow less pernicious just because you have a vote.

A. I'm not a socialist - I'm an independent, and something tells me you have no idea what the word "socialist" means. But since you're a good little corporatist, I guess I can go ahead and call you a fascist.

 

[WillowTree]

There are all kinds of arguements going on about his, but I really want to know what the "Left" really wants to see happen. What do you want to see the gov't do? Can someone please lay this out for me?

the floating bastions of turdom want "Utopia" they just aren't willing to pay for it. They want you to pay for it.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

I don't bother with bigoted, stereotyped strawmen....Period.

Deal with it.

Bigoted? Stereotyped? Are you high or just stupid? I'm guessing the latter.

 

[Oddball]

Funny how you socialists always seem to believe that the avarice of politicians and bureaucrats is somehow less pernicious just because you have a vote.

A. I'm not a socialist - I'm an independent, and something tells me you have no idea what the word "socialist" means. But since you're a good little corporatist, I guess I can go ahead and call you a fascist.

No you're not, you're a Fabian socialist who doesn't have the backbone to just come out and say it...Hence, the claim to the phony "independent" veil.

 

[Oddball]

I don't bother with bigoted, stereotyped strawmen....Period.

Deal with it.

Bigoted? Stereotyped? Are you high or just stupid? I'm guessing the latter.

They're bigoted stereotypical, not to mention quite stale, socialist blabbering points...That you consider them legitimate says more about you than anything else.