Welfare recipients take out cash at strip clubs, liquor stores and X-rated shops

[Gadawg73]

Lie huh?

Care to explain why CA made it illegal to use their welfare debit cards at casinos, strip clubs, etc.....oh you can't, idiot.

Good point. Millions were withdrawn from casino ATMs using EBT cards. We also know that EBT cards have been used for payment at tattoo parlors, nail salons and other locations that people shouldn't be in if they are really poor and concerned about feeding their children.

It is clear that many scammers are either getting way more than they need or they are neglecting their children and using the money for their own selfish purposes instead. Either way, not good.

We need to focus on clamping down on scammers and having penalties for those who take advantage of programs meant to help the poor.

Not even the NY Post article claimed millions of welfare dollars were spent in these places.

They clearly said that out of 200,000,000 transactions, they only found "dozens" of such cases.

Dozens. Less than 100 out of 200,000,000.

That is not "millions were withdrawn". Not even close.

You may believe they looked into all TWO HUNDRED MILLION transactions.

Doubt they made it past a few thousand.

 

[rightwinger]

Good point. Millions were withdrawn from casino ATMs using EBT cards. We also know that EBT cards have been used for payment at tattoo parlors, nail salons and other locations that people shouldn't be in if they are really poor and concerned about feeding their children.

It is clear that many scammers are either getting way more than they need or they are neglecting their children and using the money for their own selfish purposes instead. Either way, not good.

We need to focus on clamping down on scammers and having penalties for those who take advantage of programs meant to help the poor.

Not even the NY Post article claimed millions of welfare dollars were spent in these places.

They clearly said that out of 200,000,000 transactions, they only found "dozens" of such cases.

Dozens. Less than 100 out of 200,000,000.

That is not "millions were withdrawn". Not even close.

You may believe they looked into all TWO HUNDRED MILLION transactions.

Doubt they made it past a few thousand.

Regardless, it is a tiny percentage of transactions

The Post has themselves a nonstory as they rant about some clubs where they found three charges in six months

 

[Gadawg73]

This is none of congress' business. It's a state issue, not a federal one.

Federal $$$ makes it Congress' business.

No, it doesn't. Welfare programs are a state issue, which is why states have already handled the issue.

EBT cards are food benefits authorized by the Federal government through the SNAP program. Eligibility and sign up is through the Federal government.
The program is administered by the states only. All rules and guidelines are Federal.
USDA SNAP guidelines are all Federal laws.

 

[Gadawg73]

Not even the NY Post article claimed millions of welfare dollars were spent in these places.

They clearly said that out of 200,000,000 transactions, they only found "dozens" of such cases.

Dozens. Less than 100 out of 200,000,000.

That is not "millions were withdrawn". Not even close.

You may believe they looked into all TWO HUNDRED MILLION transactions.

Doubt they made it past a few thousand.

Regardless, it is a tiny percentage of transactions

The Post has themselves a nonstory as they rant about some clubs where they found three charges in six months

A tiny % of 200 million transactions is a shit load of $$$$.

 

[AmyNation]

You can't get cash out on food stamps. This is not about food stamps. The ebt card has more than just food stamp benefits on it, this is about cash benefits that are on the ebt card.

 

[Katzndogz]

Don't the poor have a right to entertainment? If they have a right shouldn't it be publicly funded like all the other rights?

Thinking like a democrat that is.

 

[rightwinger]

You may believe they looked into all TWO HUNDRED MILLION transactions.

Doubt they made it past a few thousand.

Regardless, it is a tiny percentage of transactions

The Post has themselves a nonstory as they rant about some clubs where they found three charges in six months

A tiny % of 200 million transactions is a shit load of $$$$.

Did you read the story? The big expose at the bottom shows the clubs and how many transactions they found at each. Most were in the neighborhood of three charges in a year for a total of a few hundred bucks

God damn executives will write off thousands of dollars at a strip club and charge it to the tax payers

 

[Gadawg73]

You can't get cash out on food stamps. This is not about food stamps. The ebt card has more than just food stamp benefits on it, this is about cash benefits that are on the ebt card.

Love u Amy and no offense but fraud does not distinguish between food and cash benefits.

Also TANF block grants to the states the cash. That is a Federal program administered by the Health and Human Services Dept.

 

[AmyNation]

I don't think you understand, the ATM distinguishes between food and cash benefits.

you cannot use food stamps to purchase anything but food

 

[Gadawg73]

Regardless, it is a tiny percentage of transactions

The Post has themselves a nonstory as they rant about some clubs where they found three charges in six months

A tiny % of 200 million transactions is a shit load of $$$$.

Did you read the story? The big expose at the bottom shows the clubs and how many transactions they found at each. Most were in the neighborhood of three charges in a year for a total of a few hundred bucks

God damn executives will write off thousands of dollars at a strip club and charge it to the tax payers

Writing off expenses does not make the taxpayer pay a cent. That is a liberal myth.
When a business writes off an expense all that means is they do not have to pay taxes on that $$$ and that is limited to 50% of the expense now.
And that $$$ is the executives' $$ anyway, not the taxpayer's $$$.

How many transactions out of 200 million did they audit?
Ten thousand? 1 million?
"found dozens of clubs" in 1 small area of a large country.
So 4 dozen times 10,000 cities.
The big problem is the Democrats will not even address and end this.

 

[Gadawg73]

I don't think you understand, the ATM distinguishes between food and cash benefits.

you cannot use food stamps to purchase anything but food

Of course they do but BOTH are Federal programs with Federal rules, laws and guidelines.
Period, end of story. You are the one that refuses to understand the law and facts.

 

[Gadawg73]

They should have strict laws where these machines are located but the Democrats oppose that also.
WTF is one located in a strip club to begin with?

 

[AmyNation]

I never said they weren't fed programs. I said the distribution of welfare is a state issue.


Again, I do understand people's need to run to the fed every time there's a problem, but I prefer to let states handle it.

 

[JustTheFacts]

We could save a lot of money and grief if instead of a million different welfare programs that pay for this or for that, we just had one. If you qualify you get a monthly "check" use this money for whatever you want no one else's business.

If you use it at strip clubs rather than to eat, good you'll die of starvation sooner and be off the dole.

I really don't see how this has not occurred to more people.

 

[Gadawg73]

I never said they weren't fed programs. I said the distribution of welfare is a state issue.


Again, I do understand people's need to run to the fed every time there's a problem, but I prefer to let states handle it.

Distribution is administering, NOT policy.
Administering is the handing out of the benefits only.

 

[regent]

Of course with most programs, you have on the fringes those that receive benefits, that should not and on the other fringe those that do not receive benefits and should. Usually those programs are analyzed as to what is more costly checking more thoughly or letting some slip by. If dollars are involved you can bet some Americans are scheming ways to get those dollars be they the poor on welfare or the rich corporations.

 

[rightwinger]

A tiny % of 200 million transactions is a shit load of $$$$.

Did you read the story? The big expose at the bottom shows the clubs and how many transactions they found at each. Most were in the neighborhood of three charges in a year for a total of a few hundred bucks

God damn executives will write off thousands of dollars at a strip club and charge it to the tax payers

Writing off expenses does not make the taxpayer pay a cent. That is a liberal myth.
When a business writes off an expense all that means is they do not have to pay taxes on that $$$ and that is limited to 50% of the expense now.
And that $$$ is the executives' $$ anyway, not the taxpayer's $$$.

How many transactions out of 200 million did they audit?
Ten thousand? 1 million?
"found dozens of clubs" in 1 small area of a large country.
So 4 dozen times 10,000 cities.
The big problem is the Democrats will not even address and end this.

So, businesses don't pay taxes on the money they spend in titty bars.

Just as bad as someone blowing their welfare money on lap dances

 

[Againsheila]

Strippers gotta eat too

Strippers make WAAAAAAY more than the max to qualify for these programs.

They don't have to claim all of their tips.. Who can prove otherwise how much they took in? NO ONE. Most service industry employee's who work for tips know they don't have to claim all them.

All the waitresses I know have to claim at least 10% of their income in tips. This is really bad when some places like Denny's they don't tip much at all.

 

[JustTheFacts]

Strippers make WAAAAAAY more than the max to qualify for these programs.

They don't have to claim all of their tips.. Who can prove otherwise how much they took in? NO ONE. Most service industry employee's who work for tips know they don't have to claim all them.

All the waitresses I know have to claim at least 10% of their income in tips. This is really bad when some places like Denny's they don't tip much at all.

As far as I know, the only law is that companies must file a form which reports tips of at least 8% of revenue.

Technically speaking, 100% of tips SHOULD be reported as income for tax purposes, but you would have to prove that tips were earned and not paid, very hard to do.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

EXCLUSIVE: Welfare recipients using EBT cards to get cash at strip clubs, X-rated video stores and bars - NYPOST.com

They need a way to put this kinda crap to stop.. I sure dont want my tax dollars so these low life people can go to strip clubs..

I doubt you pay taxes