Is this REALLY what you believe???

[naturegirl]

Jewish vote 2008 election:

How about for previous years? I have a hard time considering one election as anything relevant, especially because 2008 was really an election of 'do you want more bush, or not'

Dont forget rich black people either. Your words not mine.

Ok, so whatever I post you're just going to keep saying that's not enough evidence so that you can avoid actually addressing the issue.

One election result, especially one that was so different than most, does not set a standard. I'm not disputing these results, I just don't believe they paint the big picture.

 

[Dr.House]

Then do so.

Hostility is entirely subjective...

Do you need help with the big words?

Ok, so you can't actually refute it. End of conversation.

So now you're running away from your incorrect application of the word "hostility"?

Ok...

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Do I feel that all Conservatives feel this way? No. But I do think that the folks that do feel that way are driving the Conservative movement.

Let's put it this way.... I see a lot of hate speech on here, but when called out, they say it's about fiscal responsibility.

.....If they can (even) manage to come-up with that one.....

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y]9.12 DC TEA PARTY - March Footage with Interviews - YouTube[/ame]
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fevga9jUC48]9.12 DC TEA PARTY - Interview B-Roll - YouTube[/ame]

 

[xotoxi]

How about for previous years? I have a hard time considering one election as anything relevant, especially because 2008 was really an election of 'do you want more bush, or not'

Dont forget rich black people either. Your words not mine.

Ok, so whatever I post you're just going to keep saying that's not enough evidence so that you can avoid actually addressing the issue.

One election result, especially one that was so different than most, does not set a standard. I'm not disputing these results, I just don't believe they paint the big picture.

Jews Vote for President:


Jewish Vote In Presidential Elections


YearCandidate% of Jewish Vote
1916 Hughes (R)45 Wilson (D)55
1920 Harding (R)43 Cox (D)19 Debs (Soc)38
1924 Coolidge (R)27 Davis (D)51 La Folette (Progressive)22
1928 Hoover (R)28 Smith (D)72
1932 Hoover (R)18 Roosevelt (D)82
1936 Landon (R)15 Roosevelt (D)85
1940 Wilkie (R)10 Roosevelt (D)90
1944 Dewey (R)10 Roosevelt (D)90
1948 Dewey (R)10 Truman (D)75 Wallace (Progressive)15
1952 Eisenhower (R)36 Stevenson (D)64
1956 Eisenhower (R)40 Stevenson (D)60
1960 Nixon (R)18 Kennedy (D)82
1964 Goldwater (R)10 Johnson (D)90
1968 Nixon (R)17 Humphrey (D)81 Wallace (I)2
1972 Nixon (R)35 McGovern (D)65
1976 Ford (R)27 Carter (D)71 McCarthy (I)2
1980 Reagan (R)39 Carter (D)45 Anderson (I)14
1984 Reagan (R)31 Mondale (D)67
1988 Bush (R)35 Dukakis (D)64
1992 Bush (R)11 Clinton (D)80 Perot (I)9
1996 Dole (R)16 Clinton (D)78 Perot (I)3
2000 Bush (R)19 Gore (D)79 Nader (G)1
2004* Bush (R)24 Kerry (D)76 Nader (G)<1
2008 McCain (R)22 Obama (D)78


Jewish Vote In Presidential Elections

 

[Katzndogz]

This is why black people vote democrat.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI]Obama Is Going To Pay For My Gas And Mortgage!!! - YouTube[/ame]

 

[M14 Shooter]

Black Americans are disproportionately lower income than the average American.

Thank you, Great Society

Conservative policies are disproportionately detrimental to lower income Americans,

Unsupportable hosepucky.

 

[WatertheTree]

Jewish vote 2008 election:

How about for previous years? I have a hard time considering one election as anything relevant, especially because 2008 was really an election of 'do you want more bush, or not'

Dont forget rich black people either. Your words not mine.

Ok, so whatever I post you're just going to keep saying that's not enough evidence so that you can avoid actually addressing the issue.

Thats not what I said. Hell you can just show me one election from any year other then 2008 and I will be happy.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I meet you all the time. You hate Obama. You hate gay people. You hate black people, immigrants, Muslims, labor unions, women who want the right to make choices concerning their bodies, you hate em all. You hate being called racist. You hate being called a bigot. Maybe if you talked about creating jobs more than you talk about why you hate gay people we wouldn't call you bigots. Maybe if you talked about black people without automatically assuming they are on food stamps while demanding their birth certificates we wouldn't call you racist. You hate socialism and social justice. You hate regulations and taxes and spending and the Government. You hate.

A prime example of liberal intolerance, the inability to accept that others may actually not agree with them for perfectly legitimate reasons, the inability to create an argument not based on ad homs, strawmen and outright lies, and, of course, abject partisan bigotry.

It's not the disagreement... it's the vitriol and venom... but thanks for playing.

On the contrary... liberals often take personal exception to people not agreeing with them, and usually assume its because the other person is racist, sexist, etc, as thet's "the only way" someone -could- disagree with them - at which point, as you see from the quoted excerpt, the vitriol and vemom flows freely.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Do I feel that all Conservatives feel this way? No. But I do think that the folks that do feel that way are driving the Conservative movement.

Let's put it this way.... I see a lot of hate speech on here, but when called out, they say it's about fiscal responsibility. Hell, one of the easiest things they tend to do is assume(without fail) that Progressives are welfare bums. I've been accused of it repeatedly, even though I've explained at least 100 times that I've never used unemployment or welfare and that I've been working since I turned 14(now 46). Funny how they usually play that card right after someone debunks something that they posted.

Like I said... I don't think they are all like that. But the people that drive the bus...the Kochs, the AM radio crowd, etc....they do. It's a known fact that the Koch Brothers' father was one of the founding members of the John Birch Society and it seems the apples didn't fall too far from the tree.

I ask the Conservatives on this board to use the link provided in the OP and read it, maybe even print it out. Then compare it to the posts on the MB. I mean... obviously this guy is angry, so his/her words are pretty harsh... but the elements that the author mentions happen here quite often.

Your 'feelings' are yours. That does not make them reality. I have yet to meet a Conservative who 'hates' Obama. Of course, there are a few raving right wing nutters on this board, but most Conservatives here do not 'hate' Obama.

And, the irrational 'hatred' of Bush by the left is, apparently, perfectly 'rational'.

Yeah.....irrational.....that's what it is.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejph4LBdmmc]WMD LIES - Bush Cheney Rumsfeld etc. - THE ULTIMATE CLIP - YouTube[/ame]
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[Mr. Shaman]

If they really loved America, they would want to see obama out of office. Liberal democrats are remaking this country into a country that does not deserve love or even respect. It's people are being reduced from pride and integrity to less than animals. obama was at the helm, in the driver's seat.

The socialist dictator needs to be impeached and put on trial for treason. May the next president, whoever that may be (Depending on if Joe can be impeached aswell, continuing down the line) can take pity on him and pardon him after he is convicted. He should hold his head in shame and never show himself in public again. He is an embarrassment and an insult to every veteran, alive or dead.

 

[Steelplate]

A prime example of liberal intolerance, the inability to accept that others may actually not agree with them for perfectly legitimate reasons, the inability to create an argument not based on ad homs, strawmen and outright lies, and, of course, abject partisan bigotry.

It's not the disagreement... it's the vitriol and venom... but thanks for playing.

On the contrary... liberals often take personal exception to people not agreeing with them, and usually assume its because the other person is racist, sexist, etc, as thet's "the only way" someone -could- disagree with them - at which point, as you see from the quoted excerpt, the vitriol and vemom flows freely.

Personal exception? How many times have we been called Commies...supporters of "sharia law", that we hate America and a dozen other bullshit things when we disagree with your side? Not only do we hear that shit from your side, the AM Radio crowd does it on a daily basis... poisoning their listeners minds and further exacerbating the problem.

Well, perhaps if your side wouldn't come on like a three dollar whore all the time and speak reasonably without the marxist bullshit, without the Nanny state bullshit, without throwing the founding fathers(and your opinion of what they stood for) in our faces... perhaps we could have civil discussions.

As far as assumptions, what about the rights' propensity for assuming that progressives are that way because they are welfare recipients and similar shit?

You just refuse to see that your side is USUALLY the protagonists in this. Not saying that Progressives never go down that road... but it's very much your sides' road.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

If you believe the same thing this author does than you are a racist.

So is he and he is black

There ya go, playing the race card again. If you read the article you will see how your hatred of white people keeps you from seeing your own self destruction.

Ah, yes......Gawd bless all o' those Great White Benefactors!!!


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgvBdlD7xUk]Rachel Maddow: Fox News To White People: Be Very Afraid! Black People Are Coming To Get You! Part 1 - YouTube[/ame]​

 

[M14 Shooter]

It's not the disagreement... it's the vitriol and venom... but thanks for playing.

On the contrary... liberals often take personal exception to people not agreeing with them, and usually assume its because the other person is racist, sexist, etc, as thet's "the only way" someone -could- disagree with them - at which point, as you see from the quoted excerpt, the vitriol and vemom flows freely.

Personal exception? How many times have we been called Commies...supporters of "sharia law", that we hate America and a dozen other bullshit things when we disagree with your side? Not only do we hear that shit from your side, the AM Radio crowd does it on a daily basis... poisoning their listeners minds and further exacerbating the problem.

Sounds to me like you take personal exception to those that disagree with you.

Well, perhaps if your side wouldn't come on like a three dollar whore...

Looked in the mirror lately?

You just refuse to see that your side is USUALLY the protagonist in this.

 

[Dr.House]

It's not the disagreement... it's the vitriol and venom... but thanks for playing.

On the contrary... liberals often take personal exception to people not agreeing with them, and usually assume its because the other person is racist, sexist, etc, as thet's "the only way" someone -could- disagree with them - at which point, as you see from the quoted excerpt, the vitriol and vemom flows freely.

Personal exception? How many times have we been called Commies...supporters of "sharia law", that we hate America and a dozen other bullshit things when we disagree with your side? Not only do we hear that shit from your side, the AM Radio crowd does it on a daily basis... poisoning their listeners minds and further exacerbating the problem.

Well, perhaps if your side wouldn't come on like a three dollar whore all the time and speak reasonably without the marxist bullshit, without the Nanny state bullshit, without throwing the founding fathers(and your opinion of what they stood for) in our faces... perhaps we could have civil discussions.

As far as assumptions, what about the rights' propensity for assuming that progressives are that way because they are welfare recipients and similar shit?

You just refuse to see that your side is USUALLY the protagonists in this. Not saying that Progressives never go down that road... but it's very much your sides' road.

You are either blind or purposefully ignorant if you think it's mostly conservatives throwing insults around...

I pity you...

 

[Steelplate]

On the contrary... liberals often take personal exception to people not agreeing with them, and usually assume its because the other person is racist, sexist, etc, as thet's "the only way" someone -could- disagree with them - at which point, as you see from the quoted excerpt, the vitriol and vemom flows freely.

Personal exception? How many times have we been called Commies...supporters of "sharia law", that we hate America and a dozen other bullshit things when we disagree with your side? Not only do we hear that shit from your side, the AM Radio crowd does it on a daily basis... poisoning their listeners minds and further exacerbating the problem.

Sounds to me like you take personal exception to those that disagree with you.

Well, perhaps if your side wouldn't come on like a three dollar whore...

Looked in the mirror lately?

You just refuse to see that your side is USUALLY the protagonist in this.

Bullshit.... so the Commie/Libturd/haters of America thing is OK with you then? If so, it only proves my point.


I dare you to scour through the forums and see where the attacks come from...where the hate comes from and make a ratio of liberal vs. Conservative, then tell me who the protagonists are. Either you are in actual denial or just being dishonest.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Personal exception? How many times have we been called Commies...supporters of "sharia law", that we hate America and a dozen other bullshit things when we disagree with your side? Not only do we hear that shit from your side, the AM Radio crowd does it on a daily basis... poisoning their listeners minds and further exacerbating the problem.

Sounds to me like you take personal exception to those that disagree with you.

Well, perhaps if your side wouldn't come on like a three dollar whore...

Looked in the mirror lately?

You just refuse to see that your side is USUALLY the protagonist in this.

Bullshit....

See? Personal exception. You're provig my point.


Fact of the matter is the left is at LEAST as guilty as the right.

 

[Steelplate]

Sounds to me like you take personal exception to those that disagree with you.



Looked in the mirror lately?

You just refuse to see that your side is USUALLY the protagonist in this.

Bullshit....

See? Personal exception. You're provig my point.


Fact of the matter is the left is at LEAST as guilty as the right.

Wow... you've learned from Rush well...accuse your accuser of what you are doing....

I'm done. fuck off. You too house.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I believe the op-ed believes it.

That's 100% more of the population I'd hope does. Oh wait. I forgot there are probably a few on here who would agree 100% and maybe a couple who don't think he goes far enough.

There's probably not a lot of people who fall into every described category, but there sure are a lot who fall into one or more of them.

Irrational hatred of immigrants seems particularly en vogue at the moment.

.....As usual......​

"Racism in the United States has been a major issue since the colonial era and the slave era. Legally sanctioned racism imposed a heavy burden on Native Americans, African Americans, Asian Americans, and Latin Americans. European Americans (particularly Anglo Americans) were privileged by law in matters of literacy, immigration, voting rights, citizenship, land acquisition, and criminal procedure over periods of time extending from the 17th century to the 1960s. Many non English European immigrant groups, particularly American Jews, Irish Americans, Italian Americans, as well as other non-English American immigrants from elsewhere, suffered xenophobic exclusion and other forms of racism in American society.

Many people in the U.S. continue to have some prejudices against other races."

Racism In The United States​

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[M14 Shooter]

Bullshit....

See? Personal exception. You're provig my point.


Fact of the matter is the left is at LEAST as guilty as the right.

Wow... you've learned from Rush well...accuse your accuser of what you are doing....

I'm done. fuck off. You too house.

Thank you for proving me correct.

 

[Dr.House]

Bullshit....

See? Personal exception. You're provig my point.


Fact of the matter is the left is at LEAST as guilty as the right.

Wow... you've learned from Rush well...accuse your accuser of what you are doing....

I'm done. fuck off. You too house.

I love when you leftists prove my point...