Is this REALLY what you believe???

[Steelplate]

I meet you all the time. You hate Obama. You hate gay people. You hate black people, immigrants, Muslims, labor unions, women who want the right to make choices concerning their bodies, you hate em all. You hate being called racist. You hate being called a bigot. Maybe if you talked about creating jobs more than you talk about why you hate gay people we wouldn't call you bigots. Maybe if you talked about black people without automatically assuming they are on food stamps while demanding their birth certificates we wouldn't call you racist. You hate socialism and social justice. You hate regulations and taxes and spending and the Government. You hate.

A prime example of liberal intolerance, the inability to accept that others may actually not agree with them for perfectly legitimate reasons, the inability to create an argument not based on ad homs, strawmen and outright lies, and, of course, abject partisan bigotry.

It's not the disagreement... it's the vitriol and venom... but thanks for playing.

Edit... not to mention the lies from your right wing pundits that you folk tend to believe like it was written by the hand of God.

 

[Dr.House]

The actual policies that conservatives support demonstrate a hostility towards the groups mentioned in the OP. That is irrefutable.

Using the word "hostility" is certainly refutable...

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I think the letter is spot on.


Its exactly what most on the right here are like.

pretending its not what you are like is redicules.

Just go look at your posts about black people being "fooled" by the dems.

awww, did you think that same thing about the Palin loving he some big black thing thread?

I guess you would think that was a LOVE thread

why cant you understand laughing at a party who hates black people and looks at Palin like a queen finding out she had sex with a black man?

That's pretty-hard to believe.

I can't imagine the.....

.....Pride O' White-Separatism....

.....would risk an involvement with some Black-dude.​

 

[NYcarbineer]

poor black people do not vote republican party because public education has conditioned all poor people that they will receive more 'swag' from the left, then from the right.

Of course. Does that explain why most higher income blacks, not to mention most Jewish-Americans, and most women,

all vote Democratic?

Put your money where your mouth is. Prove that statement or go fuck yourself.

Shouldn't you prove your claim first?

 

[NYcarbineer]

The actual policies that conservatives support demonstrate a hostility towards the groups mentioned in the OP. That is irrefutable.

Using the word "hostility" is certainly refutable...

Then do so.

 

[naturegirl]

Black Americans are disproportionately lower income than the average American. Conservative policies are disproportionately detrimental to lower income Americans,

therefore those policies do or would have a disproportionate negative impact on black Americans.

If you are low income, of any color, conservatives want to take away (all or in part) your food stamps, your Medicaid, your heat/energy assistance, your housing assistance, your education assistance, your minimum wage, your tax breaks, your affirmative action where it applies, your union rights where they apply, and probably quite a few other things I"m not thinking of off-hand...

...and all that with the conservative promise that your life will get better once you're deprived of all of it.

Nobody is advocating taking away their only means of support, I'm advocating allowing them to live up to their full potential. When I moved to Chicago in 1965, we were poor, homeless and didn't qualify for food stamps because we were staying with relatives. My mom tended bar, saved enough $ for a security deposit, had the lights turned on and we slept on pallets on the floor, no furniture. Only then were we eligible for assistance, which we had for 6 months. By that time my mom had completed job training, we no longer needed assistance and never did again. She raised 4 daughters by herself, working every day, sometimes 2 jobs at a time. She refused to believe she had to stay in that environment.

Government assistance is SUPPOSED to be TEMPORARY, not generational.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I hate Marxism that killed more people than all the wars of the past 200 years within the 20th century. For what? Why can't people be left the hell alone.

How do you feel about Christianity and the Crusades, or Islams wars of conquest? Do you hate religion? Or the great explorers exploitation of native people, hate the early capitalists too?

Those deaths don't count.

No doubt.

Killing people-of-color is one o' those.....

...traditional "conservative"-pursuits.

 

[Steelplate]

Black Americans are disproportionately lower income than the average American. Conservative policies are disproportionately detrimental to lower income Americans,

therefore those policies do or would have a disproportionate negative impact on black Americans.

If you are low income, of any color, conservatives want to take away (all or in part) your food stamps, your Medicaid, your heat/energy assistance, your housing assistance, your education assistance, your minimum wage, your tax breaks, your affirmative action where it applies, your union rights where they apply, and probably quite a few other things I"m not thinking of off-hand...

...and all that with the conservative promise that your life will get better once you're deprived of all of it.

Nobody is advocating taking away their only means of support, I'm advocating allowing them to live up to their full potential. When I moved to Chicago in 1965, we were poor, homeless and didn't qualify for food stamps because we were staying with relatives. My mom tended bar, saved enough $ for a security deposit, had the lights turned on and we slept on pallets on the floor, no furniture. Only then were we eligible for assistance, which we had for 6 months. By that time my mom had completed job training, we no longer needed assistance and never did again. She raised 4 daughters by herself, working every day, sometimes 2 jobs at a time. She refused to believe she had to stay in that environment.

Government assistance is SUPPOSED to be TEMPORARY, not generational.

Yeah... I agree... temporary. Only thing is, Policies your side supports keeps people on the gubmint dole, then you bitch that it's their own fault they are on the gubmint dole.

I know.. Businesses shouldn't be patriotic... it's all about the money. They should be allowed to go elsewhere for slave labor rather than paying a decent wage, they should be allowed to invest those foreign made profits outside of the country so it doesn't get taxed.

When are you going to realize that killing the workforce then blaming the workforce for their own demise is not a winning strategy. Politically or otherwise. The only people it benefits are people who would be rich beyond most of our wildest dreams regardless.

 

[WatertheTree]

[/COLOR]Of course. Does that explain why most higher income blacks, not to mention most Jewish-Americans, and most women,

all vote Democratic?

Put your money where your mouth is. Prove that statement or go fuck yourself.

Shouldn't you prove your claim first?

No, I will openly admit it is just my opinion. Unless you have education from sources other then public education then you have no business refuting my opinion, as you would be ignorant to another point of view and unable to have even have a choice.

Now its your turn.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

If they really loved America, they would want to see obama out of office. Liberal democrats are remaking this country into a country that does not deserve love or even respect. It's people are being reduced from pride and integrity to less than animals. obama was at the helm, in the driver's seat.

Gee......what an unfortunate time for one o' you White-trash bigots to pop-outta-your-hole.

How tactful of you.

 

[occupied]

The writer of that piece is probably just someone who is really only exposed to conservatives on websites such as this. If I judged all republicans by the small sample that post here I would have a pretty jaundiced view. I realize that the truly hateful ones are a minority, the ones who are seemingly in it for the wealth of targets for their frustration at not becoming a billionaire or whatever rationale they use. While I understand the entire conservative movement values these zealots for their dedication they do make them look pretty bad on occasion when they say horrible things and no one calls them out for it. These ultra conservative people who actually do hate all these groups for whatever reason takes the silence of their peers as agreement and therefore makes the whole group look bad. Start calling out some of these horrible people because your political rivals see silence as agreement also.

 

[Dr.House]

The actual policies that conservatives support demonstrate a hostility towards the groups mentioned in the OP. That is irrefutable.

Using the word "hostility" is certainly refutable...

Then do so.

Hostility is entirely subjective...

Do you need help with the big words?

 

[NYcarbineer]

poor black people do not vote republican party because public education has conditioned all poor people that they will receive more 'swag' from the left, then from the right.

Of course. Does that explain why most higher income blacks, not to mention most Jewish-Americans, and most women,

all vote Democratic?

Put your money where your mouth is. Prove that statement or go fuck yourself.

Jewish vote 2008 election:

 

[Unkotare]

Okay, a friend of the family posted this link on facebook, and I followed it because I was shocked a family friend would post a link to this hate site. I am shocked and dismayed at what I read. So my question is, do you REALLY believe like this op ed believes?

Daily Kos: An open letter to the people who hate Obama more than they love America

Daily Kos: An open letter to the people who hate Obama more than they love America





"I have become what I have beheld and am still convinced I have done right." Elliot Ness (The Untouchables)

Whoever posted that sounds like an asshole, but then anyone posting on the dailykos is more likely than not to be.

So you hate people who post on the dailyos. Nice retort, genius.

The dailykos is an extremely unserious, hyper-partisan garbage site with 0% credibility. You know this. Don't be stupid. That being said, I did not use the word "hate," did I you dishonest shit?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Using the word "hostility" is certainly refutable...

Then do so.

Hostility is entirely subjective...

Do you need help with the big words?

Ok, so you can't actually refute it. End of conversation.

 

[CaughtInTheMid]

The writer of that piece is probably just someone who is really only exposed to conservatives on websites such as this. If I judged all republicans by the small sample that post here I would have a pretty jaundiced view. I realize that the truly hateful ones are a minority, the ones who are seemingly in it for the wealth of targets for their frustration at not becoming a billionaire or whatever rationale they use. While I understand the entire conservative movement values these zealots for their dedication they do make them look pretty bad on occasion when they say horrible things and no one calls them out for it. These ultra conservative people who actually do hate all these groups for whatever reason takes the silence of their peers as agreement and therefore makes the whole group look bad. Start calling out some of these horrible people because your political rivals see silence as agreement also.

that's an interesting argument. it's the one many people use with moderate islamists. "speak up or it looks like you're complicit". i can see that.

 

[WatertheTree]

Of course. Does that explain why most higher income blacks, not to mention most Jewish-Americans, and most women,

all vote Democratic?

Put your money where your mouth is. Prove that statement or go fuck yourself.

Jewish vote 2008 election:

How about for previous years? I have a hard time considering one election as anything relevant, especially because 2008 was really an election of 'do you want more bush, or not'

Dont forget rich black people either. Your words not mine.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Put your money where your mouth is. Prove that statement or go fuck yourself.

Shouldn't you prove your claim first?

No, I will openly admit it is just my opinion. Unless you have education from sources other then public education then you have no business refuting my opinion, as you would be ignorant to another point of view and unable to have even have a choice.

Now its your turn.

I asked you why most higher income Blacks vote Democrat, as well as Jews and women.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I hate Marxism that killed more people than all the wars of the past 200 years within the 20th century. For what? Why can't people be left the hell alone.

You know that this statement obviously is not correct right?

You may hate marxism, but at least state the reason for it a little clearer or name actual fact. Marxism (or it's leaders) killed a lot of people, that is wrong, but at least name the real reason and not some made up one.

You're (quite) obviously unaware o' Teabagger-logic.

"A lie told often enough becomes the truth."
- Vladimir Lenin

Hell......it's made Porky Limbaugh a rich-man!!​

".....he though most people are incredibly gullible, and he felt that the key to radio programming was to reach that crowd, and that it would be really, really easy. He thought he thought he could get anyone to believe anything he said, and the more outrageous is was, the more they would believe it."

Porky's Pig-Shit​

 

[NYcarbineer]

Put your money where your mouth is. Prove that statement or go fuck yourself.

Jewish vote 2008 election:

How about for previous years? I have a hard time considering one election as anything relevant, especially because 2008 was really an election of 'do you want more bush, or not'

Dont forget rich black people either. Your words not mine.

Ok, so whatever I post you're just going to keep saying that's not enough evidence so that you can avoid actually addressing the issue.