Improving Capitalism

[Hautoisavoc]

This video has an interesting take on an aspect of capitalism that doesn't get discussed often enough. I'm looking forward to a completion of the series and getting everyone's impressions about the issue of the separation of labor and capital.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

This video has an interesting take on an aspect of capitalism that doesn't get discussed often enough. I'm looking forward to a completion of the series and getting everyone's impressions about the issue of the separation of labor and capital.

dear, as a typical liberal do you lack the IQ to tell us what the real problem with capitalism is??

 

[Abishai100]

The Great Wall

When dividing labor and capital, as many philosophers such as Karl Marx have done, it is perhaps useful to understand some of the sociological processes that guide the 'governance of capitalism.'

Let's look at two relevant cases:

1. the federal anti-trust laws enacted against Microsoft giant Bill Gates revealed a capitalism coordination with monopoly management
2. the indictments against Enron members for illegal insider-trading revealed a capitalism coordination with intellectual property control

Both of these cases reveal a capitalism coordination with power access, so how do we discuss labor in terms of capital when we're specifically dealing with complexities associated with power and demand?

This is why, for example, it seems to challenging to create good-versus-evil dichotomies in free market dialogue. Why, for example, is the fictional ruthless Wall Street tycoon Gordon Gekko (portrayed by the entertaining Michael Douglas) in Oliver Stone's acclaimed capitalism-inquisition film "Wall Street" (1987) both demonized and deified?

Maybe Green Arrow (DC Comics) is the best modern version of Robin Hood...hail to the chiefs!




Wall Street (Film)

 

[ralfy]

The real problem of capitalism is that it requires increasing production and consumption of goods to ensure continuous economic growth. That can't go on in a world with physical limitations.

That's why we are now facing financial crises, peak oil, and environmental damage coupled with global warming.

 

[georgephillip]

The real problem of capitalism is that it requires increasing production and consumption of goods to ensure continuous economic growth. That can't go on in a world with physical limitations.

That's why we are now facing financial crises, peak oil, and environmental damage coupled with global warming.

Another current problem with capitalism involves its ability to generate profits for a few without producing prosperity for the larger society.
"Five years after the official end of the Great Recession, corporate profits are high, and the stock market is booming. Yet most Americans are not sharing in the recovery. While the top 0.1% of income recipients—which include most of the highest-ranking corporate executives—reap almost all the income gains, good jobs keep disappearing, and new employment opportunities tend to be insecure and underpaid. Corporate profitability is not translating into widespread economic prosperity."
Profits Without Prosperity - HBR

 

[Igrok_]

The real problem of capitalism is definetly that it denies the moral in the competition between economic agents. The only thing it focuses is a will to consume more and more without considering moral and religious obstacles.
In this way it is slightly similar with communism, with only difference that communism is trying to force society to the last stage of capitalism - when the money will have an absolute power on people's lifes.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The real problem of capitalism is definetly that it denies the moral in the competition between economic agents. .

of course thats very very stupid. Capitalism causes you to be wholly concerned with the needs of others. If you doubt it start a business at which point you will live and die based on whether you can please people more than anyone else on earth.

Is thinking fun?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The only thing it focuses is a will to consume more and more without considering moral and religious obstacles.
.

so you think Tesla and SolarPower are not moral or religious or that farmers are not moral for feeding people?

You must think before you post. Do you understand?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

The real problem of capitalism is that it requires increasing production and consumption of goods to ensure continuous economic growth. That can't go on in a world with physical limitations.

That's why we are now facing financial crises, peak oil, and environmental damage coupled with global warming.

The meddling government is what holds back capitalism.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The real problem of capitalism is that it requires increasing production and consumption of goods to ensure continuous economic growth. That can't go on in a world with physical limitations.

That's why we are now facing financial crises, peak oil, and environmental damage coupled with global warming.

peak oil???? with prices lower than ever and new discoveries all over the world??? Ever heard of shale and fracking???

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

The real problem of capitalism is that it requires increasing production and consumption of goods to ensure continuous economic growth. That can't go on in a world with physical limitations.

That's why we are now facing financial crises, peak oil, and environmental damage coupled with global warming.

peak oil???? with prices lower than ever and new discoveries all over the world??? Ever heard of shale and fracking???

Which OPEC and Iran are trying their damnedest to fuck up.

 

[Igrok_]

The real problem of capitalism is definetly that it denies the moral in the competition between economic agents. .

of course thats very very stupid. Capitalism causes you to be wholly concerned with the needs of others. If you doubt it start a business at which point you will live and die based on whether you can please people more than anyone else on earth.

Is thinking fun?

Thinking is always very fun. Go on!
You don't need to produce something that pleases somebody's interests more but to make an effort for causing him buy it and nothing more. Advertising, monopolism, unfair competition are all about the capitalism.

The only thing it focuses is a will to consume more and more without considering moral and religious obstacles.
.

so you think Tesla and SolarPower are not moral or religious or that farmers are not moral for feeding people?

You must think before you post. Do you understand?

Absolutely not.

 

[bripat9643]

The real problem of capitalism is that it requires increasing production and consumption of goods to ensure continuous economic growth. That can't go on in a world with physical limitations.

That's why we are now facing financial crises, peak oil, and environmental damage coupled with global warming.

How can you have economic growth without increasing production and consumption of goods? That is pretty much the definition of economic growth.

Unless you want the majority of people in the world to remain desperately poor, then you have to support economic growth.

 

[bripat9643]

The real problem of capitalism is definetly that it denies the moral in the competition between economic agents. .

of course thats very very stupid. Capitalism causes you to be wholly concerned with the needs of others. If you doubt it start a business at which point you will live and die based on whether you can please people more than anyone else on earth.

Is thinking fun?

Thinking is always very fun. Go on!
You don't need to produce something that pleases somebody's interests more but to make an effort for causing him buy it and nothing more. Advertising, monopolism, unfair competition are all about the capitalism.

Why would someone buy anything that didn't please him? Leftists are constantly spewing pure idiocy.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You don't need to produce something that pleases somebody's interests more but to make an effort for causing him buy it and nothing more. Advertising,

dear, lets make this as simple as possible for you.If one guy sells pet rocks an another sells innovative new smartphones who is going to please billions of people and who is going bankrupt? Do you get it? Everyone can advertise but not everyone can please people with products that raise their standard of living.

 

[Igrok_]

The real problem of capitalism is definetly that it denies the moral in the competition between economic agents. .

of course thats very very stupid. Capitalism causes you to be wholly concerned with the needs of others. If you doubt it start a business at which point you will live and die based on whether you can please people more than anyone else on earth.

Is thinking fun?

Thinking is always very fun. Go on!
You don't need to produce something that pleases somebody's interests more but to make an effort for causing him buy it and nothing more. Advertising, monopolism, unfair competition are all about the capitalism.

Why would someone buy anything that didn't please him? Leftists are constantly spewing pure idiocy.

Good manners, guy! I have to say that finding leftists here and there is a pure idiocy as well. That's all.

You don't need to produce something that pleases somebody's interests more but to make an effort for causing him buy it and nothing more. Advertising,

dear, lets make this as simple as possible for you.If one guy sells pet rocks an another sells innovative new smartphones who is going to please billions of people and who is going bankrupt? Do you get it? Everyone can advertise but not everyone can please people with products that raise their standard of living.

Dear, try to read one time or even two my previous post and don't argue with your fantasy. If someone has a possibility to sell a pet rock he will sell it without trying to produce a smartphone.

 

[bripat9643]

The real problem of capitalism is definetly that it denies the moral in the competition between economic agents. .

of course thats very very stupid. Capitalism causes you to be wholly concerned with the needs of others. If you doubt it start a business at which point you will live and die based on whether you can please people more than anyone else on earth.

Is thinking fun?

Thinking is always very fun. Go on!
You don't need to produce something that pleases somebody's interests more but to make an effort for causing him buy it and nothing more. Advertising, monopolism, unfair competition are all about the capitalism.

Why would someone buy anything that didn't please him? Leftists are constantly spewing pure idiocy.

Good manners, guy! I have to say that finding leftists here and there is a pure idiocy as well. That's all.

How do you figure? This forum is infested with them. You're one of them.

 

[Igrok_]

The real problem of capitalism is definetly that it denies the moral in the competition between economic agents. .

of course thats very very stupid. Capitalism causes you to be wholly concerned with the needs of others. If you doubt it start a business at which point you will live and die based on whether you can please people more than anyone else on earth.

Is thinking fun?

Thinking is always very fun. Go on!
You don't need to produce something that pleases somebody's interests more but to make an effort for causing him buy it and nothing more. Advertising, monopolism, unfair competition are all about the capitalism.

Why would someone buy anything that didn't please him? Leftists are constantly spewing pure idiocy.

Good manners, guy! I have to say that finding leftists here and there is a pure idiocy as well. That's all.

How do you figure? This forum is infested with them. You're one of them.

ok ok. Didn't want to bother you.

 

[georgephillip]

of course thats very very stupid. Capitalism causes you to be wholly concerned with the needs of others

Especially the CHILDREN!

 

[bripat9643]

of course thats very very stupid. Capitalism causes you to be wholly concerned with the needs of others

Especially the CHILDREN!

You would prefer that they starved?